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McPhee
April 3, 2011, 04:56 PM
I am recovering from major surgery and my Son-in-law has been taking care of our ranch, animals and doing carpentry work. I owe him a good favor. He can use a good gun safe.

I am not sure this is the right forum to ask, but anyone got any suggestions for a nice gun safe for about $1500?

I have been reviewing safes on the Internet and find lots of problems with lots of safes. I searched Cabelas to make it easier for me to buy and have drop shipped to him but still don't find really what will work.

Any help or ideas on where to look are appreciated.

McPhee

dreamweaver
April 3, 2011, 05:10 PM
there are multiple re-sellers on the internet that offer delivery (curbside) included in the price.
liberty safes is well represented in your price range and i highly recommend them. i have 3 of the lesser priced models and couldn't be happier.
online, you can get curbside delivery included, but for $150 more they will place it where you want it, provided there's no more than 3 steps involved.
the $150 is a bargain, as they weigh 600 pounds!
mine are all in a ground level barn, but i needed a forklift to place 'em!

McPhee
April 4, 2011, 04:16 PM
The rest of the BP affectionados must hide their guns in a hollow stump, in the barn, in the root cellar, in the attic where the won't forget where they left them.:)

Or they may think a gun safe is too foreign for the Dark Side to use.::eek:

Bishop Creek
April 4, 2011, 08:43 PM
I have a safe, but can't really comment, as it is too small for your needs, but I wouldn't be without one (I made a comment anyway).

rdstrain49
April 4, 2011, 09:29 PM
Check with your local Browning dealer. Sometimes you can negotiate a really good, I mean REALLY good deal. I did.

Pahoo
April 5, 2011, 09:41 AM
The rest of the BP affectionados must hide their guns in a hollow stump, in the barn, in the root cellar, in the attic where the won't forget where they left them.
You forgot to list, Under the beds and yes, you will find them there. As mentioned, there are many choices out there and prior to purchasing mine, I managed to collect a foot high stack of catalogs. Currently involved with Fort Knox safes. Now, a lot of the manufactures are located close to iron ore mining, that way, you pay for the shipping of the fabricated steel. Mine eventually came from Utah. Y'all being out west, you should not have a problem locating one out there. Go to a local Gander Mountain or Cabelas, even Menards and see what they have. Or ask one of you local gun shops. They love dealing with Mother-in-Laws ...... ;)


Be Safe !!!

madcratebuilder
April 5, 2011, 10:09 AM
Check your local gun shows for private safe dealers and also your local Craig's List. I have about a half dozen dealers in a hundred mile radius that deal in gun safes, they have great prices, much better than retail outlets. They offer delivery and setup. $1500 well buy a huge safe, it may not be fire proof, but it well stop 99% of all thieves.

arcticap
April 5, 2011, 10:28 AM
There's something special about the name Fort Knox that has always stood for absolute security. I wasn't sure what the exact phrase was but looking it up I found that one is "safer than Fort Knox". Another is "locked up tighter than Fort Knox".
Here's how the phrase came about:

http://www.stockmarkets.com/blog/safer-than-fort-knox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bullion_Depository

Dino.
April 5, 2011, 01:07 PM
Check Costco.
I got a really nice "Cannon" safe for around $600.

Here's a link ... http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?whse=BC&topnav=&search=gun%20safe&N=0&Ntt=gun%20safe&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US

4V50 Gary
April 6, 2011, 10:24 AM
Paging residential TFL gunsafe expert, a1abdj. McPhee, you would do well to do a search on his name and read his previous posts.

Rifleman1776
April 6, 2011, 12:04 PM
As a BP aficinado I have several very valuable traditional muzzle loading rifles. Plus a selection of modern guns. When we moved from town to our present location, kinda semi-rural and isolated, I got concerned about security. But not having much money I had to buy what I could. Ended up with a Grizzly ten gun safe. It is not fire resistant but I have no qualms about it's security. Seven years ago I paid $225.00 for it. Weighs under 300 lbs and is bolted to the wall.

martygrant
April 8, 2011, 12:08 AM
http://sportsmansteelsafes.com/
About as good as it gets for price, quality and USA made. Lots of so-so safes out there from China, IMHO. Fort Knox and Halls make high quality stuff too or so I read. I too would like to hear from a1abdj as I am considering one of these myself.
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Well, on second thought....I see a1abdj posted a link a few years back to a complaint made against that company...but failed to mention the poster "jumped the gun" ??? and resolved that issue with the owner. So what to make of that? Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'll check out a1adbj's site and see what sells there.....

Logs
April 8, 2011, 05:13 AM
I have a Cannon safe it is the one that is extra high so you get two shelves. I think it is suppose to hold around 40 guns, but won't with scopes. Very nice and I got mine for around a $1,000 (Buds Safe Supply in Paris, KY)

They delivered it with one guy and some fancy dolly with two sets of wheels. Safe was around 900 lbs and one guy was able to walk it down my basement stairs. Delivery in basement was an extra $250, but well worth it. Paris, KY is about an hour and a half way from where I live so make sure you check all the shops in your area to see what safes are out there. I have seen Cannons in TSC farm stores.

Buy one bigger that you think you will need, because they fill up fast. :D

a1abdj
April 9, 2011, 09:44 AM
The $1,500 line is where you start to see more of the gun safes built here in the US, although several of them will still be Chinese. It gets confusing sometimes, because there are companies that will either flat out lie about where the safe is made, or will simply not mention the country of origin at all. Several brand name manufacturers import safes and rebadge them.

Cabela's sells mostly Liberty safes now to my understanding. Many of them are within your budget, and most will be US made. There won't be anything special about any of them from either a fire or security standpoint, but Liberty does tend to stand behind their products. Bass Pro sells from Granite Security (mostly imports) and ProSteel (some imported, some US built) that builds all of the Browning safes. Both of these are good places to start looking.

If you wanted to spend a little more, or have him subsidize the purchase, you could step up to something a bit more secure. Sturdy offers more steel in their safes, but I'm not wild about their fire lining. The good news is that if you do not need the fire lining, you can order it without it and save some money. This gives you a heavier steel safe for not much more than what you're already looking to spend.

If you do need fire protection, the AMSEC BF is still one of my favorite gun safes on the market. Unfortunately, it will probably be pushing $500 to $800 more than your budget.

http://sportsmansteelsafes.com/
About as good as it gets for price, quality and USA made. Lots of so-so safes out there from China,

Lots of horror stories about these guys. I have also seen a few of their safes, and I wouldn't use "quality" as a good way to describe them.

There are some decent Chinese safes out there. I would own a good Chinese safe before I would own a Sportsman.

4V50 Gary
April 9, 2011, 10:14 AM
Concur with a1abdj regarding Sportsmen Steel safes. I know someone who bought one. He says never again. You can get better safes for the money.

big al hunter
April 9, 2011, 11:15 PM
I have a Cannon 28 gun safe w/fire lining. Ran about $600, 8 years ago. No problems and I love it. They do fill up faster than you think they will. I will need another in the next couple of gun purchases.

Pahoo
April 10, 2011, 10:04 AM
McPhee
Refering you to this recent post. ..... ;)

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447541


Be Safe !!!

Buckshot300
April 22, 2011, 12:02 PM
My neighbor and I both bought 50 gun Champion Safes and have been very pleased with them. They are in your price range and come in a number of levels of fireproof.

603Country
April 22, 2011, 01:02 PM
Yup! Big Al Hunter is right. Folks told me that no matter what or how big I bought, the barn, the tractor, and the gun safe wouldn't be big enough. They were absolutely correct. Get at least 50% more than you think you need, and it'll be big enough for a while (but not forever).

Another option, which was brought about by my wife, is that this new home of ours has a Tornado Safe Room. Solid battleship steel, with big dead bolts. You can put a lot of stuff in there (guns, silverware, jewelry, us, etc.). I was against the spend, but once it was in place (inside the home, bolted to the slab), I began to see the possibilities. That's a spend that I can now highly recommend. Yes, it's rather expensive (at 3 or more times the cost of a big gun safe, but it's 20 times the size of my gun safe), but sell it to the wife as protection for the family. She'll love you for it, till you start stacking guns in there.

HunterGuy
April 22, 2011, 01:28 PM
Canon, Fort Knox, Liberty. All very well made safes.

gilmorez
April 23, 2011, 05:20 PM
Take a look at the Republic Gun Safes by Hollon Safe company. I purchased one and really like it. They are comparable to Amsec gun safes but are made with thicker steel and bolts but for much less in price. http://www.valuesafes.com/hollon_gun_safes.html
That is where I got mine but I know that you can also find them at locksmith shops if you want to see one.

Toolman
April 24, 2011, 08:49 AM
Here's one you might consider: I believe it's USA made too!
http://www.johnsonsafe.com/safes.htm

RB98SS
April 29, 2011, 10:49 AM
I just recently purchased a safe from Cabela's. Interesting to note that the prices online are way higher than the prices in the store.

FYI

Adirondack
April 30, 2011, 06:46 PM
For $1500 the best new gun safe to get (IMHO) is a non fire lined Sturdy. I just looked at their website and it looks like a 27"W x 23"D x 60"H can still be bought for just under $1500 and that includes shipping, a lifetime warranty and great quality USA made components. Their design, tolerances and workmanship in this price range are unmatched; there is nobody even close IMO. I have a 36x27x60 and had to do again, I would have bought multiple 27x23x60s and separated my collection to different locations. Anyway, great company to deal with so give them a call if for no other reason then to listen to the owner Terry tell you what to be looking for in a good gun safe.

catnphx
April 30, 2011, 11:02 PM
I did some research on this subject a few months ago and came away with these companies as being solid and worth further research:

AMSEC Safes (http://www.amsecusa.com/Gun_Safes/)

Sturdy Safes (http://www.sturdysafe.com/)

Summit Safes (http://www.summitsafes.com/)

Fort Knox Safes (http://www.ftknox.com/)

One conclusion I came to was to have 2-3 smaller safes to store your guns because if BG is going to rob you then it will take a significant amount of time to steal all your guns/valuables in 2-3 different quality safes.

Adirondack
May 1, 2011, 12:11 PM
+1 catnphx

catnphx
May 1, 2011, 01:55 PM
Adirondack said: I have a 36x27x60 and had to do again, I would have bought multiple 27x23x60s and separated my collection to different locations.

LOL ... I just noticed that you said the same thing. I truly believe this is the way to go because it will take the BG too long to break into 2-3 safes unless you are out-of-town and the BG knows this.

Adirondack
May 1, 2011, 07:35 PM
LOL ... I just noticed that you said the same thing. I truly believe this is the way to go because it will take the BG too long to break into 2-3 safes unless you are out-of-town and the BG knows this.

I also agreed with you gun safe selections too although the Fort Knox can get pricey.

bearol63
May 2, 2011, 11:31 AM
Take a look at liberty fat boy jr. should be under 1500.00$

Nnobby45
May 2, 2011, 11:59 AM
No shortabe of recommendations, as you can see. Some years back, Dillon Precisioin offered Browing safes on a payment plan. I bought one and it's been just fine. It's a big one with lots of room for rifles and pistols.

a1abdj
May 2, 2011, 12:26 PM
Take a look at liberty fat boy jr. should be under 1500.00$

Here's the problem with a lot of the $1,500 safes, including the Liberty you just mentioned.

Open the door half way, and assuming you're right handed, place your knee against the open door half way up. Place your right hand on the top corner, then pull with your hand, and push with your knee.

You'll see that door flex back and forth. Now ask yourself, how secure is something that you can flex by hand? Safe doors shouldn't flex by hand.

pcb911
May 2, 2011, 02:57 PM
Been researching this for a while for my own purchase. Ran into a guy that just started making a gun safe that he designed. Really like the turntable in the middle so there is no area that you can't get a gun out of. They can also put shelfs in for storage of ammo or pistols above long guns. The website is www.pendletonsafes.com. Hope this helps and not confuse.

Cuc Tu
May 2, 2011, 04:07 PM
I have a lot of respect for ya a1abdj and your no-nonsense descriptions.

I went with a Sturdy safe - no fire lining - and am very happy I did. I feel that I got the most safe I could have gotten for the price since I did not "need" a fire lining.

I really liked the fact that you can upgrade the steel for a modest cost. For a metal box, it is stronger than anything I looked at and very functional.