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Mutatio Nomenis
March 27, 2011, 08:39 AM
Yesterday, there was a bit of a burglary scare at my house. I was home alone, just me with the cats. Suddenly, I hear Dad's car alarm go off outside. The garage is always open, and there's been a string of burglaries and carjackings in the area. It's Saturday, so everybody's either out somewhere or lounging around in their homes. I hear some pounding outside, so I turn off the T.V., say a little prayer, grab a big 7 inch steak knife from the kitchen (we don't have a gun), and burst out into the garage yelling :"HEY! HEY! YOU! GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!"

It turns out that no one was there; one of the cats hard taken a hard leap onto Dad's car's hood and set off the alarm. Other poundings were from the cat being startled and knocking stuff over in its panic. When Dad got home, I told him about the burglary scare and how I had gone out there with a knife. He was angry.

"Why the hell did you do something so bloody stupid? Of course it's just going to be a cat; people just don't do things like that here!"

I wanted to yell at him: "What if it was a real burglary? What if I did find something going on? If you don't believe in the right to keep and bear arms and the right to protect yourself and your property, then shut up and be a good little victim!" I was quiet in order to avoid a fight.

I have no doubt that I did the right thing. I knew that I was putting myself in danger by going out there. With the dramatic crime increases in my area, how do I let my parents know that there's a growing likelihood of us experiencing a robbery and I'm the only one in the family who believes in RKBA. Mom won't have guns, and Dad is a softy, and my brother is the most likely to freak out at the threat of danger. How do I make sure that they're safe and protected without armament or taking defensive action?

WC145
March 27, 2011, 08:49 AM
If they're not willing to take responsibility for their own safety and the protection of their property, then about all you can do is put 911 on speed dial and hope for the best.
Good luck.

Single Six
March 27, 2011, 08:53 AM
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dannyb
March 27, 2011, 08:59 AM
with the inevitable "but." I usually am not the first to answer something like this, but your case reminds me of a personal experience of my own. Some years ago, when we lived in a different house than now, I heard a loud racket coming from our garage. Unlike you, I had a shotgun (usually kept unloaded) that I put a few shells into it and went to investigate. As I approached the door from our basement to the garage, I heard noises of things being pushed off shelves, general banging around, and I was convinced that we had a burglary in progress. I slid the safety off, stood by the doorframe, popped open the door to the garage with my shotgun going into point mode, and came within a microsecond of blowing out the headlights of my car. There in garage was one startled raccoon. It ran, and I unloaded my shotgun while shaking from the adrenalin aftermath. The whole reason for the ruckus was that I had forgotten to check that the garage door was closed before going to bed.:o
What does this have to do with your situation? It occurred to me that I had gone in like a blind idiot (much as you did with the knife in your hand). If it had been a real burglary, especially if it had been more than one burglar, I would have been an easy target, shotgun or not. Lesson learned, I put a video camera in the garage, one covering my deck, and one covering the front door. Today, these devices are dirt cheap, can be bought at Costco for a couple of hundred bucks, are not terribly difficult to install, communicate wirelessly with your computer, and TELL YOU WHAT IS MAKING THAT RACKET WITHOUT YOUR HAVING TO EXPOSE YOURSELF. If it's the cat, breathe a sigh of relief; if it's a burglar, call the cops and find a safe place to await their arrival. Being armed is a good thing in a tense situation, but being informed about what you face is far more important - armed or not. If others claim that you're paranoid, remember that just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you.:D

Spats McGee
March 27, 2011, 09:07 AM
. . . . (we don't have a gun) . . . .
Now there's a phrase we don't see much around here!

. . . . With the dramatic crime increases in my area, how do i let my parents know that there's a growing likelihood of us experiencing a RKBA. Mom won't have guns, and Dad is a softy, and my brother is the most likely to freak out at the threat of danger. How do I make sure that they're safe and protected without armament or taking defensive action? . . . .
I assume that you don't really mean that "there's a growing likelihood of us experiencing a [Right To Keep and Bear Arms]," and that it's simply a typo. Presumably, you mean "experiencing the need to defend yourselves."

As to the question, "How do I make sure . . . ," well, you're just going to have to have a sit-down with them. Just start with, "Mom, Dad, we need to talk." If they absolutely won't have a gun in the house, look into pepper spray, tasers, and other alternatives. Make sure that whatever you're looking into is legal in your area, and legal for you to own. Remember that distance from a BG is your friend. If you have to use a weapon, one that works from 40 feet is better than one that works from 2 (arm's length or so).

threegun
March 27, 2011, 09:19 AM
"Why the hell did you do something so bloody stupid?

Dad was 100 percent correct.

If you don't believe in the right to keep and bear arms and the right to protect yourself and your property, then shut up and be a good little victim!"

I believe in this right and IMO it should be the first amendment. However making a smarter decision to stay inside the home wouldn't be being "a good little victim" necessarily. You can call professionals to handle the job and prepare with your knife to defend your life should your home become compromised.

Going out from a safe area to seek danger while wielding a less than optimal weapon with little or no training in its use is without a doubt "bloody stupid". Dad was correct and although your intentions were noble it was a bad idea.

Now with that said you can learn from this scenario. Train in how to use a knife. Develop tactics for using it to its fullest potential. Make a plan. Then when you get to the ripe old age of 18 buy a long gun and do the same with it. Then at 21 get a handgun and repeat.

Good luck.

Eagle Eye
March 27, 2011, 09:29 AM
The garage is always open, and there's been a string of burglaries and carjackings in the area.

It would seem logical to not have the garage always open, and even more so given there has been a string of burglaries and carjackings in the area. One is asking for trouble to leave the garage open.

And by the way, wasp spray has a range of about 25 feet or more and is an excellent perp repellent. Aim for the head.

microman
March 27, 2011, 09:40 AM
Mom won't have guns

How do I make sure that they're safe and protected without armament or taking defensive action?

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ClayInTx
March 27, 2011, 09:51 AM
You might have been taking a knife to a gunfight.

If “things like that don’t happen around here” than why a car alarm in the first place? It becomes nothing more than a nuisance at home and is useless anyway because car thieves know all about disabling alarms in 15 seconds. Commercial car alarms are good for nothing more than finding your car when you don’t remember which lane you parked in at Wal-Mart.

Your dad might not be such a wimp. I, myself, might have appeared to be at times because I tried to never chastise my wife in front of the children. But you better believe she knew where I stood and what was going to be what when we were alone.

Also, it’s their house, not your house. You didn’t say how old you are but when you are buying your own food, your own clothes, in your own place then you make the rules. Listening to Forum Ninjas can get you into a world of grief.

Meanwhile there’s a rule of parenting: Me dad, you kid, that settles it.

Mutatio Nomenis
March 27, 2011, 10:46 AM
I turn 18 in 4 days. I'm going to get an accurate airsoft reproduction of an M1911 then because my parents won't have firearms in the house and I am intent on owning a gun when I can and definitely practicing good form and marksmanship. Anyway, my Dad's car is right next to the door, and from the house, anyone trying to break into it to drive it off would be about 4 feet from the door, so it would have taken me all of 1.5 seconds to identify the target and strike.

The car alarm came standard with the vehicle.

I used to take martial arts, and I regularly practice the more effective techniques so I know how to fight.

I saw it was a cat and patted the animal on the head. "Me fecistis solicitum, Felicula." Translation: 'You made me worried, Kitten."

leadchucker
March 27, 2011, 11:35 AM
You might have been taking a knife to a gunfight.

Exactly!

jeepstrapped
March 27, 2011, 12:17 PM
I agree with three gun
Quote:
"Why the hell did you do something so bloody stupid?
Dad was 100 percent correct.

Quote:
If you don't believe in the right to keep and bear arms and the right to protect yourself and your property, then shut up and be a good little victim!"
I believe in this right and IMO it should be the first amendment. However making a smarter decision to stay inside the home wouldn't be being "a good little victim" necessarily. You can call professionals to handle the job and prepare with your knife to defend your life should your home become compromised.

Going out from a safe area to seek danger while wielding a less than optimal weapon with little or no training in its use is without a doubt "bloody stupid". Dad was correct and although your intentions were noble it was a bad idea.

Now with that said you can learn from this scenario. Train in how to use a knife. Develop tactics for using it to its fullest potential. Make a plan. Then when you get to the ripe old age of 18 buy a long gun and do the same with it. Then at 21 get a handgun and repeat.

Good luck.

And ClayInTx

GDCooper
March 27, 2011, 12:27 PM
I have no doubt that I did the right thing. I knew that I was putting myself in danger by going out there.

I agree with all who have noted that knowingly putting yourself in danger is NEVER the right thing to do. And as a father, my reaction would have been similar to that of your father, in that I would NEVER want my kids to put themselves in harms way. Especially not to protect my possessions. Protect themselves from harm, protect other family members, that's taking responsibility and admirable, although regrettable that you would have to because I couldn't be there to do that.

So, ++ to your father for caring about you.

And i don't know VA laws, but in many states "advancing" to confronting a burglar does not allow you to use deadly force, even if attacked after doing so. You were still the aggressor, and initiated the conflict. If the burglar moved from the garage into your house and then encountered you, the situation reverses, you MAY then have the right to use deadly force, although seldom if the BG immediately turned to leave.

911 and insurance are the answers to protection of possessions. Agreed, police most-likely can't respond in time to prevent the theft, which is a good argument for possessing a gun because they usually can't respond fast enough to protect your life either, although 911 is STILL the appropriate first move, if possible. But to protect possessions, deployment of a gun is seldom warranted, almost never the right thing to do.

Being the victim of theft is definitely not enjoyable, or something to shrug off as an "oh well, that's life" experience. Hence keep the garage door shut, do all you can except for use of deadly force to avoid being a target/victim. Thieves usually are opportunists, looking for easy targets, so do all you can not to be an easy target. But it's still the PD's job, let them do it.

Above all, be safe.

TailGator
March 27, 2011, 12:32 PM
Leaving the garage door up not only gives people access to your garage, but good cover to work on access to the house even if the door between is locked. It costs nothing to close the garage door, and accomplishes nothing positive to leave it open. You and your folks need to give serious thought to more basic security issues before or concurrently with any discussion of having a firearm in the house. A gun is not a solution to every problem, and is certainly not the only consideration to address in home security.

langenc
March 27, 2011, 12:43 PM
""If they're not willing to take responsibility for their own safety and the protection of their property, then about all you can do is put 911 on speed dial and hope for the best.
Good luck."" copied from post #2

To original poster-If of age, I see youare a student, you could obtain a legal gun so as to defend the castle even if the King objects. One day he may understand.

Sign up for, yourself and the King, emails from VCDL, a very fine orgn you have there in VA. Wish we had something that good in MI.

"Then when you get to the ripe old age of 18 buy a long gun and do the same with it. Then at 21 get a handgun and repeat." copied from later post-
Probally can get a handgun from individual seller at 18, depending on VA law.

Mike38
March 27, 2011, 12:43 PM
I used to take martial arts, and I regularly practice the more effective techniques so I know how to fight.


Old, worn out saying, but it’s applicable in this case…..

“My two friends, Smith & Wesson, will beat your martial arts classes any day.”

BTW, your Dad was right. If all you have is a knife, let the bad guys take what they want. Grab a phone along with that knife, and lock your self in the bathroom. Dial 911 and let the Police worry about it. If by chance the bad guy breaks into the bathroom you’re in, then and only then use that knife.

Aguila Blanca
March 27, 2011, 12:45 PM
I wanted to yell at him: "What if it was a real burglary? What if I did find something going on? If you don't believe in the right to keep and bear arms and the right to protect yourself and your property, then shut up and be a good little victim!" I was quiet in order to avoid a fight.
Two points:

(1) As others have noted, leaving the garage door open "at all times" is just plain dumb. I live in a semi-rural area that has become more 'burb than rural. When I was a kid, more than 50 years ago, it was generally safe to leave garage doors open around here. Now, today, people have had cars stolen out of closed and locked garages. Keep your doors closed, or else just hang up a sign that says "Steal me."

(2) The RKBA does not extend to protecting property (except in Texas, under certain conditions). If you had a gun, you could not go from a safe place (the house) to a possibly UNsafe place (the garage where you thought a burglar had entered) and claim self-defense if you were attacked and shot the perp.

Vanya
March 27, 2011, 12:57 PM
To original poster-If of age, I see youare a student, you could obtain a legal gun so as to defend the castle even if the King objects. One day he may understand.
Umm... not good advice, really. It's Dad's house, so Dad gets to make the rules. When the original poster moves out and has his own place... he can make his own rules.

In the meantime, having a calm and friendly family discussion about other ways to make things more secure (that garage door...) would be good.

GM1967
March 27, 2011, 01:41 PM
“My two friends, Smith & Wesson, will beat your martial arts classes any day.”

Not always the case. At very close range a skilled person may disarm a person armed with a gun. Note that I said "may". No guarantees either way, but never assume having a gun makes a person invincible.

(2) The RKBA does not extend to protecting property (except in Texas, under certain conditions). If you had a gun, you could not go from a safe place (the house) to a possibly UNsafe place (the garage where you thought a burglar had entered) and claim self-defense if you were attacked and shot the perp.

:confused:

If that's the case, then I assume you can't carry concealed in Texas? After all, you would have been leaving a safe place, your home, and therefore given up your right to self-defense, according to this.

So far as I know, you always have the right to defend yourself against attack. The fact that you walked from your bedroom to your garage doesn't take that away. After all, you have the right to go anywhere within your own home that you want to, right? And you don't KNOW that there is a dangerous criminal in the garage until you see him.

Crazy88Fingers
March 27, 2011, 03:31 PM
1) Close the garage door.

2) Don't go charging out yelling with a knife if you don't know what's going on. There could have been an actual bad guy out there. Or perhaps a couple of cops were chasing a suspect onto your property and made a ruckus. In either case you could have very easily been gunned down.

3) If you're buying an accurate model of a 1911 with the intent of using it to intimidate someone, I'd stick with the knife. As the saying goes (another one) "Don't draw a weapon unless you intend to use it". And a plastic gun will be of no use.

cambeul41
March 27, 2011, 03:57 PM
Consider taking an NRA "Refuse to Be a Victim" course.
Any of us could benefit by doing so.

RTBAV is not gun oriented. I cannot imagine your parents objecting to any of the content.

Eagle Eye
March 27, 2011, 05:36 PM
If your father insists on leaving the garage door open, then encourage him to leave the keys in the car. That way, the thief will not need to destroy the steering column to take the car and it may be returned someday undamaged....ummm....maybe! :rolleyes:

TXAZ
March 27, 2011, 06:07 PM
Ditto on closing the garage door. You can buy (or make) a garage door status light for <$20 that will tell you if the door is up or down from inside. That should help with the issue.

Old, worn out saying, but it’s applicable in this case…..

“My two friends, Smith & Wesson, will beat your martial arts classes any day.”

I'd take exception with this broad statement, and would bet a bottle of your choice of beverage, if I can pick the victim.

I took a martial arts course focused on smart defense several years ago. The instructor consistently was able to gain the upper hand of a simulated armed situation through 3 steps of distraction, disarming and attack. While we practiced on each other mostly, the most interesting was an off duty cop he brought in and gave him paint ball pistol. The cop repeatedly never had a chance, even though he kept insist there must be some trick. Most of the students could do the same after a couple months of training.
I wouldn't bet on my rusty memory today, but expect with training most could a better than average chance against Mr. Smith and Wesson.

The real trick is to be situationally aware and don't invite trouble or get in that bind.

Jeremiah/Az
March 27, 2011, 09:52 PM
If you can not have a gun, a baseball bat makes a much better weapon than a steak knife. It will easily break bones.

As has been said, never go charging into an unknown situation. I commend you on your courage, but not the best move.

Hook686
March 28, 2011, 02:08 AM
If you were alone with the cat, why did you simply not close the garage door ?

However, since any unknown sound one hears, doy, or night, might be a BG out to do something bad, having a loaded gun handy sure makes sense.

Yankee Doodle
March 28, 2011, 06:55 AM
Mutatio
Pardon me for being not PC and very blunt.
What you did was reckless, ill thought out, and stupid. You walked blindly into a situation that could have cost you your life, or put you in a wheelchair for life.
Forget about the concept of "bringing a knife to a gunfight", you could have barged into the center of a group of gangbangers, high on drugs, and bent on destruction. You would have had no chance.
This would have been just as stupid if you had a shotgun in your hands. You had no idea what you were walking into, and this is always a recipe for disaster.
Based on many years of experience, let me offer you a bit of advice. NEVER, but NEVER put your life on the line to protect property that can be replaced, and is probably covered by insurance anyway. Simply not worth it. Stay in the house, behind a locked door, and call in the cavalry. 911 is there for a reason. It may take the cops some time to respond, but they are trained and paid to take those risks. Leave this kind of crap to the pros.
Sorry if I have insulted you, but insults heal faster than gunshot wounds.

threegun
March 28, 2011, 08:38 AM
Not always the case. At very close range a skilled person may disarm a person armed with a gun. Note that I said "may". No guarantees either way, but never assume having a gun makes a person invincible.


And every now and then rushing a machine gun nest works for somebody. I know you qualified this quote as not guaranteed however the odds are so low of success as to qualify it as suicide.

Moondew
March 28, 2011, 08:39 AM
Get a small CC camera and plug it into a VCR/DVR etc recording device that can be easily monitored while you notify 911 as appropriate. Give you some extra time to see if its a false alarm while remaining behind a locked door.

Arm yourself as you can BB bat, knife, spray whatever as your dad wishes.

BRE346
March 29, 2011, 11:40 AM
All these answers are good thinking after the fact. I've read a similar story elsewhere and it brought out the same responses.

We go charging out to protect our property without thinking about what kind of threat we may encounter. We assume we're going to 'take care' of the situation we expect to find. That's not a cat, that's a 'coon'. That's not a 'coon', that's a thief, a burglar, a robber, and he has a gun. Oh s--t, we're in deep trouble.

I admire the martial arts expert who can flip me on my back in half a second, or jam my firearm with one hand so it won't fire. It assumes he can get to me before my gun goes off.

The baton, the bat, the knife, etc. are close-combat weapons. The gun works from across the street. That's where I'll be.

GatorFlash1
March 29, 2011, 11:58 AM
My suggestions for home defense for you are (1) get rid of those cats, and
(2) get your self a nice little yappie dog like a cockapoo, something that makes lots of noise when alarmed but not able to take the neighbors leg off below the knee if he is returning the gas can he borrowed last Saturday.

My #3 suggestion is to keep the car keys around and if there is a noise outside set off your car alarm with your keys.

#4 dial neighbors, #5 dial 911, #6 take a firearms safety course, get a Remington 870 pump 12 ga, and spend some time at the local skeet and trap range practicing with it. It will only be used if a deadly confrontation is unavoidable. In the meantime it is fun to learn how to bust clay pigeons!

Lastly, do not look for confrontations unless there is absolutely no way to avoid them. If the bad person is outside and you are inside, stay there until you can get help or have verified the coast is clear for you to leave the house.

Now how does that sound?

Onward Allusion
March 29, 2011, 12:18 PM
Mutatio Nomenis
Burglary Scare

Lot's of armchair QB-ing... The bottom line is that you survived a false alarm and you probably learned a few things from it. Mostly good suggestions from the others.

I personally would do everything in my power, short of moving out to get some type of firearm in the house. Keep in mind, just because you can't have a handgun doesn't mean your older family members can't.

A thought... Take up shooting as a sport. Trap is a nice "classy" sport akin to golf that can get family members indoctrinated into firearms.

Mutatio Nomenis
March 29, 2011, 02:24 PM
Thanks for all the responses. I'll convince them to keep the garage closed and I will look into getting a paintball gun. It won't be as good as a real gun, but frozen paintballs can seriously hurt someone. I plan on getting the air gun so I can practice technique for the functional model I will buy when of age. My Dad was vexed because I went out there with a knife. Apparently, it would have been perfectly okay if I had gone out with nothing at all and was mad that I had grabbed a weapon. He is confident in security and was more concerned that I would have stabbed myself. Do not try to understand the British when it comes to self defense. My friend has a shotgun for sale that he's never fired. I'm considering taking him up on his offer.

Crazy88Fingers
March 29, 2011, 02:51 PM
To reiterate, it wasn't your lack of a good weapon that was the problem. It was how you reacted to the situation.

If this happens again and you go running out (with a shotgun this time) only to find one of your neighbors bumped into something in your garage while they were bringing you a plate of cookies, things can get sour really fast. And you just may have time to think about it in jail.

Mutatio Nomenis
March 29, 2011, 04:10 PM
^ Not intending to fight, but I remember that the quote was: "Why the hell did you use a bloody knife? Don't be so rediculous! If you're going to check outside, then just check-don't do something stupid like bring a weapon!"

WW2
March 30, 2011, 01:27 PM
Okay, there are a lot of good suggestions here, however other than closing the garage door, I see nothing that talks of security before the fact.

Most local police departments will come to your house and give you a security assessment. Some things will include:

1. ALWAYS close and lock all doors. Locks should be sturdy and well installed. Lock the door from the garage to the house with a sturdy lock!
2. Keep windows locked. If you keep them open for ventilation, open them just enough for air circulation and have a positive stop to prevent unauthorized opening and entry from the outside.
3. Use security film on windows to prevent the "rock" entry method.
4. Use lighting to keep areas around the house and garage visible.
5. Remove shrubs and other plants from around windows and doors if they offer a hiding place for anyone trying to break in or ambush you.
6. Install solid wood or steel doors as the typical hollow core doors used in most construction are easy to breach.
7. Get a good dog for security. Small dogs that are rated as good watchdogs (not guarddogs) are Yorkshire Terriers and West Highland White terriers. I have both and they let me know when the neighbors four houses away open their car doors! For large dogs, retrievers and shepherds are good. These large dogs are good for outside as well. The small dogs are called coyote bait if they are outside at night and Eagle food during the day!
8. Have a family response plan, and practice it, for possible scenarios of burglary, invasion, fire, flood, earthquake, etc.

This is just a start; however with before-the-fact security you become a hard target and the BG will probably go elsewhere thus minimizing your need for arms. However, an 870 or 357 is a good line of defense if other security measures are breached.

By approaching your family with this type of security plan in mind, you can do a lot without even mentioning arms for defensive purposes. Also, research the types of crimes against residences in your local area so you can show the family that it can, and does happen in your neighborhood!

Finally, as others have stated, don't bother to protect your personal property just get it insured as it is easy to replace but your life is not easy to replace. Using arms (deadly force) is only acceptable in self defense or defense of others if life or severe bodily injury is going to be used against you. FYI, rape is considered by most jurisdictions to be justifcation for the use of deadly force; even here in California!

Achilles11B
March 30, 2011, 11:49 PM
I think the do's/don't's/what-if's of this particular HD-ish situation have been covered adequately enough for me to not waste more time on them. Lots of good answers already, no use regurgitating what others have said on that aspect.

Age notwithstanding, it's his house. I'm a 27-year-old firearm owner. When I got out of the Army, I stayed with my parents until I got my place settled. I kept my firearms with me in my parents' house. Not because of the absolute need to have firearms in the house, but because my parents, as owners of the house, extended me that courtesy. If your dad decides one day to own a firearm, help him with the process of selecting and purchasing it. If he chooses not to, you can discuss it with him from your standpoint and try to convince him of the pro's of firearm ownership. But at the end of the day, whether you're 18, 28, 108, whatever, it is his house, he'll decided what's what around there. If the roles were reversed, wouldn't you want the same courtesy?

cnimrod
April 13, 2011, 09:15 AM
send him in first. Yes dogs are lot of responsibility but so is a weapon,

I wonder about the learn how to use a knife advice. getting that up close and personal to stick someone can't be an easy thing to do. I'd prefer a baseball bat and a lot easier to control esp. if the stumbling drunk in your garage happens to be your best friend who just had a fight with his girlfriend.

jibberjabber
April 13, 2011, 09:45 AM
Instead of confronting a burglar with yelling and knife wielding, which could result in deadly force retaliation, just let him know the police are on the way. That will make him leave faster than anything. (It could also lead to an arrest—preventing more crime.)