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hunter2009
March 13, 2011, 12:10 AM
So i did a post about rifles and i decided im going with a tikka in a 308 and now it is time for glass. im looking at either leupold burris or nikon and just wanted to know some of your experiences with these brands

Norrick
March 13, 2011, 01:55 AM
price range?

I had a Burris. Optically it was ok, but it felt overpriced. I have a Nikon that I still need to send in for some warranty issues, but assuming it gets sorted out, it will be an excellent value. No experience with Leupold.

BChunter
March 13, 2011, 02:19 AM
I have a Leupold 4.5x14 VXIII with the boone & Crocket reticle. Excellant scope and the warranty with Leupold is no hassle. I have had my binocs replaced with leupold. I would recomend the Leupold

big al hunter
March 13, 2011, 05:14 AM
I have 2 burris scopes. one on my rifle one on my super redhawk in 454 casull. never had a problem with either. the one on the pistol replaced a red dot of a make i cant remember fell apart on the inside after 150 rounds. worth every penny. I also have a nikon buckmaster series that I purchased on a 7mm mag then put it on my 12 ga rifled shotgun for a season and it now sits on my sons 243 also a good scope. you have the right idea

kd7sgm
March 13, 2011, 06:01 AM
I do not think you will be diappointed by any of those brands. I have a Nikon that would not sight in but did get it fixed through Nikon, and has since been flawless. I will say that Nikon customer service was not ideal, but in the end they took care of the issue. All of My Burris and Leupold scopes have performed without flaw.

hooligan1
March 13, 2011, 07:40 AM
Luepold for me as well!:)

Skadoosh
March 13, 2011, 07:43 AM
Nikon here. Great glass with a lifetime warranty at a very reasonable price.

M.O.A.
March 13, 2011, 08:02 AM
nikon or leopuld are good scopes but burris scopes are junk imo

billnourse
March 13, 2011, 08:04 AM
Leupold VX 3 in what ever power your needs call for. I have 4.5x14x40's on most of my rifles and like that power range.

I have no experience with Burris, but have heard good things. Nikon not so much. A local dealer here will not carry them because of problems and bad customer service.

There are a lot of refurburished ones at Natchez Shooters Supply and other outlets. That tells me that there must be a bunch of not so good ones out there.

Bill

oneoldsap
March 13, 2011, 08:15 AM
Buy Leupold , quality products and impeccable customer ! A used Leupold is a smarter buy than the other two you mentioned , new !

JerryM
March 13, 2011, 08:25 AM
My personal favorite hunting scope for many years is Leupold VX III 2.5X8. Excellent optics, and not larger than the gun. You do not need any more power for hunting, and lighter weight and lower mounts are always better in my experience.

Regards,
Jerry

pabuckslayer08
March 13, 2011, 08:28 AM
It seems like you want a good scope so for a 175-225 range the Nikon Buckmaster is the one you want, for the 225-300 range A Leupold VXII is the one Id choose, for 300-450 the Nikon Monarch standard 2.5x10 is the one. And for 450+ Either the Monarch Gold German 4 of the Leupold VX7

hunter2009
March 13, 2011, 09:19 AM
sorry i didnt say a price range its going to be around the 300 dollar range

zippy13
March 13, 2011, 11:18 AM
but burris scopes are junk imo I've had good luck with my Burris scopes; but, mine predate the take over by Beretta. It's really easy to paint relative scope quality with too broad a brush. May I suggest that you look at the on-line reviews of the specific models you have in mind.

SauerJackson
March 13, 2011, 12:02 PM
I have an identical setup with a nikon buckmaster 4.5-15x40 I got at Gender Mtn. for like $320. It's a fairly new setup, but worked remarkably well so far....

jdscholer
March 13, 2011, 01:44 PM
My personal favorites are Leupolds. That being said, I've also got some Bushnell Banners that have been good solid scopes for way less money.
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/jdscholer/100_3157-1.jpg
I just slapped this one on my 222 yesterday, and got it sighted in no problem. It replaces a 3x9 Leupold, which was nice but not as powerful as I wanted for shooting ground squirrels. jd

wnycollector
March 13, 2011, 03:03 PM
a price range its going to be around the 300 dollar range

For ~$250 check out the Mueller 3-10x44 Tac II. Superb glass and solid constructions make this scope a great deal for the price.

Here are some reviews of the Tac II:

http://www.realguns.com/archives/126.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/mueller_3-10x44_tacII.htm

http://www.snipercentral.com/muellertac2.htm

pabuckslayer08
March 13, 2011, 03:38 PM
At 300 the Nikon Buckmaster is the one I would get. Very clear and well made scopes with a lifetime warrenty

Kreyzhorse
March 13, 2011, 04:58 PM
Dollar for dollar, you can't find a better scope than a Nikon Monarch. In the same price range, I found the Nikon Monarch better than either the Leupold or Zeiss scopes that I set out to buy.

ndking1126
March 13, 2011, 05:06 PM
When I bought my last scope, I compared the Burris and Leupold and found Burris to be just as nice but a little less money. I ended up with a Burris FFII 4.5-14x42 and have been very happy with it.

Based on all my research, I do feel if you go Leupold that extra money will be go towards better customer service. I'd guess that's what you are paying for when you go Leupold.

bman940
March 13, 2011, 06:32 PM
I bought my son a Tikka T3 in .308 2 years ago, put a Nikon 4.5-14 with BDC reticle on it and he is deadly with it. Shot his ( he was 10) first deer with it last year, 323 yards. Before I could even tell him which circle of the reticle to hold on the deer after I called out the distance the deer was on the ground. Getting him to the range and used to the scope and BDC circles was huge.
I must say with Nikon's Spot On web site the BDC reticle has never been more effective. Got to Nikonhunting.com, click on the Spot On logo and register (it's all FREE) and then you can enter all your shooting data including your scope and away you go.
Check it out and let me know what you think.
Bart

JRP2
March 13, 2011, 07:01 PM
I like my Burris scope. its a great optic at a decent price and you have to try to break it. never had any problems and saved $200 over the leupold

Woodyed
March 13, 2011, 07:34 PM
Check out the Sightron SII and SIII line of scopes. I have 5 of them on my rifles and will probably get more. Lifetime warranty, bright and sharp optics, plus great service if you ever need it.

Right to bear arms
March 13, 2011, 07:57 PM
I'll vote for Leupold. But try to get a step up from the Rifleman series. They're ok but their optics aren't as sharp as the VX scopes.

hunter2009
March 13, 2011, 09:38 PM
i was at work today and it was kinda slow so i went and look at scopes i think im going to go with leupold vx 2 3x9x40. I work at gander mountain in the hunting department the brands i looked at were zeiss leupold and nikon. thats for all the feed back

M.O.A.
March 14, 2011, 02:33 PM
a good choice and you will like it

bigbird34
March 15, 2011, 03:19 PM
Save $100.00 more and get a zeiss ($400.00)...from cabelas ,a very good scope!

My 2 cents,Jim:D

Saltydog235
March 15, 2011, 03:25 PM
Save $100.00 more and get a zeiss ($400.00)...from cabelas ,a very good scope!

My 2 cents,Jim

This, a 3X9X40 Conquest is a great scope at that price. Or another option is to look at the Bushnell Elite 4200's. I know Midway and Natchez has had them on sale at some pretty reduced prices. Bright clear glass with pretty good optics. Leupold is great too. Not a fan of Nikon's products.

M.O.A.
March 15, 2011, 03:26 PM
i really dont think the zeiss is going to be cheaper of him seens he works at gander and the leopuld vx-2 3-9X40 sell for $299 to $349 depending on finish and reticle

Recoiljunky
March 15, 2011, 03:27 PM
i have a leupold vxII 3-9x40 mounted on my 270 and it held up for about 3 years, just now the retical in it does not hold zero anymore but thats what they have the warrenty for.

Saltydog235
March 15, 2011, 03:47 PM
i really dont think the zeiss is going to be cheaper of him seens he works at gander and the leopuld vx-2 3-9X40 sell for $299 to $349 depending on finish and reticle

No one said it was going to be cheaper, in fact its $100.00 more but a lot more scope for the money. I have both the VXII and a Conquest and the Conquest is A LOT better scope. Nothing wrong with the Leupold its just not the same as the Ziess.

hunter2009
March 16, 2011, 11:27 AM
compaired both the leupold and the zeiss side by side and to me they were close to the same and i dont think the zeiss is worth the extra money. just my opinion tho

Saltydog235
March 16, 2011, 12:20 PM
Did you compare them in the store or out in the real world in hunting conditions or at least outside? Inside a store the differences don't usually stand out like they do in field conditions. Where I hunt, low light usually means seeing deer or at least shooter deer, the VXII on my 30'06, which I love and have used for a very long time, is hard to see through and pick up the reticle in dusky conditions. The Ziess I have has extended that time by 15 minutes which can mean the difference between sucess and just a nice long commune with nature.

To each his own, Leupold makes a fine product but the VXII is not a Ziess. The VXIII that I use on the 7 Mag is very close though except its a 50mm objective and retails for more than the Ziess.

I have to say, I have been very very impressed with the Bushnell Elite 4200 I aquired with the Savage rifle.

603Country
March 16, 2011, 02:31 PM
Some years ago I was in a double blind with a buddy and we were waiting for the hogs to show up at the feeder. It got too dark for me to see the feeder through my Vari-x2 Leupold, so I suggested we go back to the ranchhouse for a beer. He said that there was plenty of light left and passed me his rifle with the Zeiss optics. He was right...with his Zeiss there was plenty of light left. These days I've upgraded to VX3 Leupolds, but I do wonder if the Zeiss are brighter than today's VX3s. My 30mm tube VX3 is very bright, and brighter than my 1 inch tube VX3, that's for sure.

M.O.A.
March 16, 2011, 07:13 PM
well that is because the 30mm tube lets a lot more light pass through

603Country
March 16, 2011, 07:25 PM
Yes, I had certainly read that the 30mm tube passed more light, but I hadn't experienced the difference until I bought one. The buddy's Zeiss was just the 1 inch tube version. I wish I could afford (or hide the expense from the wife) a few more of the 30mm tube optics. Like many of you guys, I have what I need, but not what I now want.

M.O.A.
March 16, 2011, 07:31 PM
lol me to i would like to have some leupold 30mm tubes but their high and just havent got one yet . its comeing soon though as i hope to get a custum hunting rifle from E.R. shaw and thats whats going on it

38superhero
March 16, 2011, 07:33 PM
leupold....ftw

603Country
March 16, 2011, 07:44 PM
And speaking of hiding expenses from the wife, my brother in law just ordered a 4.5x14 Leupold with the illuminated reticle and 50mm objective. I don't know what tube diameter he got, but I think he dropped $1500 or so. If his wife (my sister) ever found out, he's a dead man. I'd love to have that scope, and I suppose I could afford it if I just HAD to have it, but that's so much money, and I don't really think it'd improve my hunting success that much. That's what I'm telling myself, so don't any of ya'll tell me different.

M.O.A.
March 16, 2011, 11:22 PM
just to throw these two in there at you for $1150 you can get ethere the huskemaw 5-20X50 or the greybull 4-14X50 the greybull is mad by leupuld

hunter2009
March 16, 2011, 11:39 PM
ill take a look at the vx 2 and the zeiss agian ill have to talk to a manager to see what he says about taking a scoop outside the store they can be picky about that. since i will be bear hunting with it over bait it could be a late shot

.300 Weatherby Mag
March 16, 2011, 11:51 PM
The VX-3 and the Zeiss Conquest are comparable... The VX-II and the Zeiss are not.. I own VX-IIs, VX-3s and a Zeiss Conquest..

hunter2009
March 17, 2011, 07:21 AM
being that you own them all witch one do you like most

Saltydog235
March 17, 2011, 07:48 AM
The VX-3 and the Zeiss Conquest are comparable... The VX-II and the Zeiss are not.. I own VX-IIs, VX-3s and a Zeiss Conquest..

Ditto this and add a VXI, a Bushnell Elite 4200, a Burris Fullfield, a couple of 4X Weavers, and a Bausch and Lomb or 2.

My favorites at this time in order are the Ziess Conquest 3.5X10 on my 7mm-08, the Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5X10 on my .243 and the VXIII that's on my 7mmMag. And the Bushnell and VXIII are 50mm scopes, the Ziess is a 40mm. The only one that has 30mm tube is the Bushnell and the Ziess is still brighter by a hair.

Catfishman
March 26, 2011, 11:20 AM
Thanks for the links NYCollector, the Mueller 3-10x44 Tac II looks like an underpriced high quality scope.