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boddah4
February 14, 2011, 08:58 AM
I currently have in the gun safe:

SKS
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22
Marlin 795M
Winchester Model 70 030-06

I was thinking of adding a shotgun to the collection. I would use it for turkey and coyote hunting. I was also considering using it to shoot a little skeet in the summer. I shoot by myslef and was wondering if it is possible to shoot skeet by myself?

Thanks.

jmortimer
February 14, 2011, 09:18 AM
Mossberg 930 is a really good deal. They are gaining a reputation for what they are - the best semi-auto for the $$$.

Dave McC
February 14, 2011, 12:17 PM
Find your local clays range, make friends and ask questions. If you're polite, you probably get to try out a few shotguns to see what works for you. A pump shotgun works well for lots of stuff,check the archives for oodles of stuff.

Shooting clays in the south 40 is not skeet, which is a recognized sport with rules and criteria. However, shooting a few boxes of shells at some home thrown targets is possible and lots of fun. Oft it takes two people,so draft your SO or kids.

HTH....

TheKlawMan
February 14, 2011, 12:50 PM
The other day I watched this old guy with a big belly shooting skeet by himself with what looked like a camo Remington. don't recall if it was a semi or a pump. He had the controll hooked to this belt, which he gave a bump, pulled up his gun, and never missed. I think he is the exception and most shooters need someone to pull as they shootl

There are also clay throwers that run about $100. I don't recall the name, but they can be operated by the shooter who steps on a pedal. That isn't the game of skeet but it looks like trap and mighy be fun. Not recommended for New York City above Broadway., wxzcept Sundays after 10 a.m.

BigJimP
February 14, 2011, 01:29 PM
Many of us started shotgunning with a good pump gun ( Rem 870's, Browning BPS, whatever ...) ... but a good pump gun, or maybe a semi-auto are always good entry level choices for shotguns. Guns like the Browning BPS ( Browning Pump Shotgun) or the Browning Silver Hunter semi-auto ...are good starting guns in the $ 500 - $ 800 price range.

like others advised - Skeet is not a generic term, its a specific game, some sinlges, some doubles....etc ...... ( but at some clubs, it is possible, if they have voice operated pullers to shoot Skeet by yourself ...or Trap...or sporting clays ).

Most ( Home throwing machines ) ...are very different, speeds are different, angles are different ...but it can be fun to have a "clays" operation on your own property if you have enough room. Clay debris is a little unsightly ....and while they make "bio-degradeable" targets ...they still take many years to fully disintegrate....

To start with - I'd recommend you visit a "clays" club in your area ....and shoot a little Trap ....and maybe some Skeet ...see if they have some rental guns for you to try, etc ...before you invest in a shotgun. There are a lot of used guns around too / but you need to know what you're looking at before you purchase a used shotgun ....there are good deals out there / there is a lot of pure junk out there too ....

boddah4
February 14, 2011, 01:44 PM
I didn't realize that skeet was a specific term :o

I was refering to throwing clay pigeons in the air and shooting them.:o

BigJimP
February 14, 2011, 01:54 PM
That's how you learn .....

Do a general internet search on "Skeet" and "TRAP" and "Sporting Clays" ....they are all very different games ....and different angles, and different targets, and different speeds ..... / find some clubs in your area that do some, or all of the above ....

BigJimP
February 14, 2011, 02:01 PM
The Browning BPS Hunter model, with a 28" barrel ...is my personal choice of a relatively inexpensive starter shotgun / that does a lot of things very well. I happen to have the same gun in 12ga and a 20ga ....but today, the 12ga gun is more versatile. You have a bigger variety of shells available for a 12ga ....and in today's shotguns .....you have screw in "chokes" in the end of the barrel, that changes the constriction, and the size of the pattern, to what you are trying to do ..... to hunt, shoot clays, etc .

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=011B&cat_id=012&type_id=211&content=bps-hunter-firearms

A Browning BPS isn't the cheapest pump shotgun on the market ...but its one of the best, in my opinion. Browning gives you a lot of gun for your money - on pumps, semi-autos and in Over Unders ...( not that a good Remington 870 is a bad gun either ...) ...but you could do a lot worse than a good solid Browning pump, in my opinion.

zippy13
February 14, 2011, 02:28 PM
He had the controll hooked to this belt, which he gave a bump, pulled up his gun, and never missed.
That's pretty old school. Years ago, I recall watching NSSA World Champion Alan B. Clark practicing Skeet by himself. The was wearing flip-flops and pushing the pickle with his toes. These days, many clubs have advanced technically and have traded the old yellow pickle in on a sound activated target release systems.

TheKlawMan
February 14, 2011, 06:45 PM
Prado has sound activation for Trap. I don't think it is on any skeet field. The ones for trap work pretty bad due to the flooding.

ekgandj
February 14, 2011, 06:50 PM
I personally have a benelli nova and absolutely l love it. If you want a pump or semi auto IMO you can not go wrong with a benelli.


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halfmile
February 14, 2011, 10:49 PM
Remington's website has PDF's for "Fundamentals of Skeet", also the same for trap. It goes into many aspects of the games, and is a great way to get up to speed without spending any jing.

HM

zippy13
February 15, 2011, 12:21 AM
+1 on Remington's Trap (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.remington.com%2F~%2Fmedia%2FFiles%2FBrochures%2Ftrap_fundamentals_2004.ashx&rct=j&q=Remington%20fundamentals%20of%20trap&ei=5gtaTfHEF5HmsQPDmciOCg&usg=AFQjCNGtpaPIDSBelEkYoAJVPNeHPqGNsw&cad=rjt) and Skeet (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.remington.com%2F~%2Fmedia%2FFiles%2FBooklets%2Fskeet_fundamentals_2004.ashx&rct=j&q=Remington%20fundamentals%20of%20Skeeet&ei=MgxaTeyCJoSisAOuuJ2sCg&usg=AFQjCNGNJl-3evLG6alSNSk-zWzTfn7Cpg&cad=rjt) "Fundamentals" -- a lot of info in a smallpackage -- they will save those new to the games a lot of initial trail and error and help sky rocket their learning curve.

jackpine
February 15, 2011, 08:54 PM
rem 870 or mossberg 835

ET.
February 19, 2011, 04:31 PM
The only Clay I'm going to shoot is if the Clay brothers break into my house. That is why I opted for a standard Remington 870 express 18" barrel & an extended mag tube. It works for me.


...Aren't turkey guns much shorter than Skeet/Clay/Trap shotguns anyway?

k511
February 25, 2011, 11:31 AM
i own two remington 870 pumps one express and one wingmaster, both are great, never had any problems with eathier, might also consider the remington 1100 semi-auto which is my personal favorite.

bn12gg
February 25, 2011, 05:49 PM
Boddah-- A good recommendation was given to find a range with some
guys/gals who like to shoot clays. You will improve faster by being
coachable-- listen, correct your flaws. Nice people too!

Sometimes I shoot by myself. I use a Trius 1 Step clays thrower at
my club. They cost about $100. You push a peddle downward and
out comes the clay-- at a pretty good clip. You can adjust angles
to a certain degree. It will throw doubles. I've pounded thousands
of clays thru it not breaking the Trius yet. If I'm out with friends
then we use the club's clays thrower -- one guy shooting while the
other guy launches clays. The speed and angles are not that
different than using the Trius 1 Step.

Just my .02 David :)