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Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 02:52 AM
Thought y'all might like to see this. They are rarely seen but high capacity BP Victorian era revolvers predated high cap semi's by many decades.

Note, all these are dual barrels and each barrel would alternate firing between the outside edge of the cylinder and the inside of the cylinder. Top barrel fires, next round the bottom barrel fires, then the top again, etc.

Two 20 round BP cartridge revolvers below.
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/8778/2313913360099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

As you can see by the cuts on the chambers, this one is a pinfire cartridge.
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/8343/2624662260099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Folding trigger 20 rounder.
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/17858/2669524720099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

A double action top break 20 rounder.
http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/47129/2521044100099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/10776/2906082870099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Dual firing pins for the outer of the cylinder and the inner of the cylinder.
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/2661/2938237440099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

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Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 03:02 AM
20 and 30 round revolvers, continued from previous post....

20 round cylinder.
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/32407/2937660650099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Showing action open on above 20 rd revolver.
http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/45232/2411964730099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

30 round revolver front of cylinder.
http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/47230/2098139250099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Note twin barrels on 30 rd revolver.
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/48005/2374160980099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Right side of 30 rounder.
http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/44498/2020345670099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Behind the loading gate of 30 rounder.
http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/45105/2448521850099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

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Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 03:12 AM
20 and 30 round revolvers continued from previous post....

30 round revolver dual barrels muzzle end and ejector view.
http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/46642/2631840420099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

30 rounder cylinder front.
http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/31564/2538571860099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

A different 30 rounder's loading gate view. Looks to be a pinfire or teatfire cartridge. Mighty thin cylinder walls.
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/44399/2206911290099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

30 round revolver's exposed external mechanism. (This is so cool)
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/46309/2936689920099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Various CAD renditions of that exposed external mechanism 30 round revolver.
http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/33085/2097395330099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/44871/2938871760099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

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Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 03:22 AM
20 and 30 round revolvers, continued from previous post....

More CAD renditions of the exposed, external mechanism, 30 rounder.
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/15616/2851127040099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/31558/2279437800099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/16269/2056838960099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Now for some colored in CAD renditions of the same exposed, external mechanism 30 round revolver. However, look closely and instead of the pinfire or teatfire on the real revolver, this CAD rendition shows centerfire cartridges for the revolver. Artistic license? Lol.
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/48017/2838345530099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Imagine carrying this fat 30 rd cylinder in your holster.
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/44503/2429802890099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Nicely done CAD colored rendition of the 30 rounder. Almost photo realistic.
http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/46688/2247613860099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

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Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 03:30 AM
20 and 30 round revolvers, continued from previous post.

With its exposed, external mechanism making it more susceptible to mud than a dirty jamomatic Luger, this 30 rd revolver wouldn't really have had any viable military application. Still though, one heck of a high capacity hogleg if you aren't in the dirt of trenches. I wouldn't mind having one....just because :D.

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/47172/2038062890099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Heres more pics of that 20 rounder I showed you earlier.
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/47454/2910238710099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

20 rounder.
http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/44640/2905828710099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

Cylinder face of 20 rounder.
http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/44253/2473968950099763970S600x600Q85.jpg

They were the hi-caps of their day. The end.


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Kadmos
February 14, 2011, 04:46 AM
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.

Good thing they did a folding trigger on that first one..otherwise it might be a tad unwieldy. ;)

Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 07:36 AM
Kadmos wrote:
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.

My pleasure.

Kadmos wrote:
Good thing they did a folding trigger on that first one..otherwise it might be a tad unwieldy. ;)

Lol, cracked me up with that one Kadmos. :D


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sewerman
February 14, 2011, 09:20 AM
thanx for another very interesting walk thru history.

s.m.

Jim Watson
February 14, 2011, 09:28 AM
So THAT'S what they use in western movies.

Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 04:06 PM
Sewerman wrote:
thanx for another very interesting walk thru history.

My pleasure Sewerman.


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Bill Akins
February 14, 2011, 04:09 PM
Jim Watson wrote:
So THAT'S what they use in western movies.

Lol, yep. Like you said, that explains how they shot so many movie rounds without reloading. And all this time we thought they were using six shooters. :D


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ironmace
February 14, 2011, 08:49 PM
Imagine how long it took to load that? lol, Great stuff, thanks for posting it.

Hawg
February 14, 2011, 09:04 PM
Think they have one of those 20 shots in the museum at Kennesaw Ga. I saw one somewhere anyway.

Raider2000
February 16, 2011, 06:04 AM
You'd need a back pack to carry it because it looks to weigh a ton especially loaded.

B. Lahey
February 16, 2011, 10:07 AM
Has anyone here had an opportunity to fire one of the critters?

If so, did the pistol seem to be a functional and usable device, aside from the obvious large size and possible weird balance?

Foto Joe
February 16, 2011, 11:09 AM
It's a good thing they're cartridge guns...A chain fire would do more than ruin your day with one of those.

Gatofeo
February 19, 2011, 02:46 PM
There's an interesting chapter on these large-capacity revolvers in the book, "Firearms Curiosa" by Lewis Winant, copyright 1955.
It's a wonder one of these hasn't shown up in a recent movie, with whale-oil lamp projection sights and loaded alternately with incendiary, silver and explosive bullets!
Very nice revolver. Would be interesting to shoot. Wonder how far apart those superposed barrels print bullets at 25 yards? :rolleyes:

Ozzieman
February 19, 2011, 07:35 PM
WOW!
One question, Have you ever fired one of them?

railfancwb
September 25, 2011, 01:14 AM
One of the thirty round revolvers looks as though the cylinder is rotated by some style of zig zag motion.