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handgunchick
January 26, 2011, 01:47 PM
I've been out shooting at the range many times and have learned how to load, unload, shoot, clean, cock, decock, and unjam my pistol, as well as my rifles. I've been cautious about safety almost to the point of paranoia. I can shoot tight groups at 7 yards with pistols. My family, longtime gun enthusiasts, thinks I'm ready for my conceal/carry class. I plan on signing up for the 1 day 10 hour course at the outdoor range that I shoot at most often and am going to certify with my Ruger 9mm semiautomatic. Can anyone give me a rundown on what this class entails? My family was vague on the details. All they said was to certify with a pistol, not a revolver (which I don't even own, anyway).

ChrisJ715
January 26, 2011, 01:52 PM
Sounds like you'll do fine. Try not to worry

therewolf
January 26, 2011, 02:07 PM
Go to the class early. (it's at the range, right?) Shoot the CCW weapon type of

your choice(rent one?) before the class.(now you're qualified)

40% of the class is the instructor hawking his store's products.

30% of the class is anecdotal(war stories)

30% of the class is information and demonstrations.

It's four hours. Don't drink too much coffee, (only 1 break) but don't fall
asleep. If you can apply for your permit at the county seat where you live,
you'll probably have your CWP,CHP, or CCW within a month.

Best of Luck.

AcridSaint
January 26, 2011, 02:55 PM
Don't know about Texas, but we had at least one complete newbie in our CC class and everyone did fine. Sounds like you're ahead of the curve, safety is key.

sirsloop
January 26, 2011, 03:00 PM
What is there to worry about? Worried you are going to cause an accident or something? I would just ask a lot of questions in the class, listen, take notes, and if you have ANY problems or concerns be sure to let the instructor know about it. If you have confidence problems carrying loaded ammo in your CCW gun, perhaps you want to try carrying snap caps for a week or so loaded in the gun for a sort of dry run.

Redbullitt
January 26, 2011, 03:10 PM
No worries, you will be just fine.

relax

4runnerman
January 26, 2011, 03:13 PM
Handgunchick--Just did mine last week.As all in here said to me and are saying to you,,Don't worry you will be fine. I was very nervous also. Everyone in here said don't worry and they were right. It is a very easy class and the shooting is very easy also. Welcome to the club:D

ronto
January 26, 2011, 03:16 PM
Sounds like you can out-shoot the instructor. Don't think too much about it, you'll do fine.

zxcvbob
January 26, 2011, 04:04 PM
Your family is right about qualifying with an semi-automatic. In Texas, if you qualify with a revolver you get a restricted license.

I just took the NRA's "Personal Protection in the Home" class 6 weeks ago and got my MN license to carry a pistol. I and was a little nervous about the live fire exercises but it was a lot of fun. I normally shoot a revolver and do target shooting, but I qualified with a CZ82 without any trouble.

It was quite a bit different than target shooting -- instead of shooting slowly and trying to get tiny groups, the idea was to shoot quickly as long as you can keep all your shots (aimed shots, but not necessarily at eye level) on a dinner plate.
Don't think too much about it, you'll do fineThat's where I had trouble with one or two of the practice exercises -- when I thought about it too much instead of just doing it.

FAS1
January 26, 2011, 04:26 PM
Sounds like you'll do fine in the shooting dept. Relax and do just like you always do at the range. The shooting is not hard. Use your gun that you are familiar with as you will need to load it several times when shooting the qualifying course. Being safe is important and I'm sure you know basic gun safety. The classroom stuff can be a little boring, but it is mostly common sense. Again, relax and you will enjoy yourself. As a matter of fact, I had a hard time keeping pace with the lady shooting her Beretta next to me. She was good.

Skans
January 26, 2011, 05:03 PM
The shooting part of my class (not in Texas) consisted of shooting one .22LR from a revolver into some kind of shooting tank in a trailor - didn't even have to hit the target - pull the trigger once, little bang, that's it....next in line.

I received more instruction and 10 .22Shorts the first time I fired a rifle at camp when i was 8 years old.

BGutzman
January 26, 2011, 05:32 PM
You will have no problem, just pay attention and you cant go wrong!

BGutzman
January 26, 2011, 05:37 PM
One of the guys in the class my wife and I went to was remarking how no woman could ever shoot a 45 and his massive experience was more than any lady could compete with.

My wife bit her lip and smiled.

On qualification day my wife used her full size 1911 and commenced to shoot the center out of the target. The guy with the massive experience had to borrow the instructors pistol as he apparently had his permit but didn't own a pistol to shoot.

It made my wifes day!

pax
January 26, 2011, 05:48 PM
One of the guys in the class my wife and I went to was remarking how no woman could ever shoot a 45 and his massive experience was more than any lady could compete with.

Those guys are out there... :rolleyes: & sigh ... but there are a LOT more guys in the shooting world who will be thrilled to see you there and will just bend over backwards to make your day a pleasant one. :cool:

Trust me. I know this! :D

pax

elmata
January 26, 2011, 05:59 PM
You should pass by the time you finish at the 7 yard line take your time i know some of the 2 shots in 3 seconds sounds fast but remember alot can happen in a second so 3 seconds is plenty of time dont do double taps just aim squeeze re sight aim squeeze


Range Qualifications for Texas CHL
range rundown
A total of 50 rounds are fired during the course of the qualification test. A score of 70%, or 175 points of a possible 250, is required to pass. The target used is a TX-PT which is a human-shaped silhouette target measuring 45 by 24 inches. All shooting is from the ready position, which means the gun is already in your hands and aimed in. No holster shooting or shooting from concealed is required.

3 yard line - 20 shots:

1 shot in 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots in 10 seconds, once

7 yard line - 20 shots:

5 shots in 10 seconds, once
1 shot in 3 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 4 seconds, once
3 shots in 6 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once


15 yard line - 10 shots:

2 shots in 6 seconds, once
3 shots in 9 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once

jimbob86
January 26, 2011, 06:04 PM
40% of the class is the instructor hawking his store's products.

30% of the class is anecdotal(war stories)

30% of the class is information and demonstrations.



What's this cost? If it's more than 20 bucks, its a rip-off.

You want an instructor that imparts information, unless you already know it all...... it's a class, you are paying to learn....... not to be marketed to.....

The instructor I had was Paul Horvick, out of Minnesota- great guy, and did not waste any time trying to sell me anything. He quickly covered the required stuff everyone knew already...... asked if there were any questions .... and then went into things we (mostly experienced shooters) did not know very well: Legal Issues. He's a retired lawyer, and covered that material very well!

glockcompact
January 26, 2011, 11:51 PM
You sound like you'll be just fine. You may find yourself doing better than most people in the class. Women actually make great shooters and great students in my opinion. I wish more women were in the sport. After the class is over and they hand you your certificate you'll be like "Thats it"?

Just have fun and try to learn and reeeelaaaaax ;)

MW surveyor
January 27, 2011, 09:57 AM
What elmata said regarding the shooting part. If you have been practicing, you will do better than good.

The classroom part is also interesting (at least where I took mine). Listen up and you will pass the written part without any problems.

Don't worry, you will do just fine. Now go out and get it. Just make sure you maintain awarness on the firing line. Never know how many people there shooting for the very first time.:eek:

PS - I'm in Houston also. Where do you shoot?

therewolf - don't know where you got your CCL but sounds like there was not that much actual knowledge passed on the CC laws.

zxcvbob
January 27, 2011, 10:59 AM
You sound like you'll be just fine. You may find yourself doing better than most people in the class. Women actually make great shooters and great students in my opinion. I wish more women were in the sport. After the class is over and they hand you your certificate you'll be like "Thats it"?What makes you think "handgunchick" is a woman? Might be an overweight 50 year old white guy like the rest of us. Just sayin', don't read too much into a name. ;)

(OK you got me, some of us aren't white, and pax isn't a guy as far as I know.)

One of the best shooters in my Bullseye club is a woman -- she's also a certified instructor. One of the perennially not-so-good shooters is a woman, but her enthusiasm is catching. She's now the club treasurer. It's nice having a few higher-pitch voices around, even if I can't understand them half the time cuz of my high-frequency hearing loss ;)

Glenn E. Meyer
January 27, 2011, 11:15 AM
The TX written exam and shooting part are quite easy. Just relax - you will do fine. It is good to get a review of the legal issues to calm down the Rambos.

pgdion
January 27, 2011, 11:25 AM
I wouldn't worry about it, sounds to me like you are already well more qualified than 1/2 the class will be. If you can hit the target well at 15, 25, & 50ft (1 and 2 handed) then the rest is easy. The firings are timed but not critically (like in a league) and in my area they really don't focus on clearing malfunctions, they just discus them. Classes in my area give you 2 attempts too. Those who fail in the morning can get some 1 on 1 after the classroom work and then they have a 2nd chance to shoot at the end. Not sure if it's that way everywhere though. Bring a decent gun and you'll do fine. Those who struggle usually have a problematic gun (borrowed from a friend half the time) or are using a pocket pistol. I carry a Cougar but I always bring the 92FS to qualify ... the 92 makes it easy.

glockcompact
January 27, 2011, 01:26 PM
What makes you think "handgunchick" is a woman? Might be an overweight 50 year old white guy like the rest of us.

Hey there. I resent that. I'm still in my 40's. :D

hondauto
January 27, 2011, 02:25 PM
I don't think you'll have to worry about the shooting qualifiers so much.
Just pay close attention to the self defense laws they teach you..It really OPENED my eyes to what self defense is and what is not legal..
Even cops have to adhere to these laws to nearly the same extent..
Blew me away.
Good luck and GET THAT PERMIT!
I love to watch women shooting at the range...

hondauto
January 27, 2011, 02:29 PM
Hey Bgutzman...
That must have been an awesome experience...I would have been grinning ear to ear the whole time...:p

BGutzman
January 27, 2011, 03:36 PM
He had it coming... Most people involved with firearms are warm and friendly and generous, expecially to ladys on the range.

I must admit it was fun. :)

spclPatrolGroup
January 27, 2011, 04:12 PM
I did the same thing, I shot 200 rounds a day for a week for practice, even though i am an above average shot, and I could throw my gun and hit the target at the distances we were talking about, I just didnt want to do anything foolish, then when I had to qualify, I dont even know if the instructer looked my way, or checked my target, he probably saw that I knew what i was doing and moved on.

raimius
January 27, 2011, 06:29 PM
One of the guys in the class my wife and I went to was remarking how no woman could ever shoot a 45 and his massive experience was more than any lady could compete with.
Then this man has never tried, or just felt like talking out of his posterior.

I've seen women shoot them just as well as I can, and I've helped teach a few women on .45ACP pistols. It's not that hard at all. There is a slightly higher tendency for people to develop a twitch vs. learning on a less powerful cartridge, but that goes for both genders.

pgdion
January 28, 2011, 10:36 AM
he probably saw that I knew what i was doing and moved on.

You know, I think that kind of nails it. Thinking about it, it was the same during my qual, the instructors walked by a little but really spent their time with a few who were struggling or looked inexperienced. If you seemed to know what you were doing then they just let you shoot and scored your target.
I agree with Hondauto, it's worth taking the class just so you have a good understanding of the laws. Even if you don't want to carry, if you have a gun in your house for protection, you should take the class just for that reason. They spent a lot of time covering all scenarios for the use of deadly force. I had 2 excellent instructors, both cops, both training instructors, one was a sergeant and the other was on the SWAT team. They really do a great course.

dawg23
January 29, 2011, 08:11 PM
As is the case in a lot of other "professions," there are excellent concealed handgun instructors and there are some poor ones. Houston is not immune to this phenomenon.

Send me PM and I'll be glad to offer the names a a couple of outstanding instructors in the Houston area.

Keep in mind your goal in attending this class isn't so much to learn how to shoot as it is to learn when to shoot. And, hopefully, there will also be a big dose of "How to avoid getting shot." included in the curriculum.

The instructor you want is the guy who knows the Texas deadly force statutes, concealed carry statutes and concealed carry rules from "A to Z."

Ian2005
February 1, 2011, 11:42 AM
I was never "marketed too" but I can see how it would happen. I too took my CCW in Houston (Carters Country - North) and the instructor was a retired LEO who knew his stuff and brought plenty of knowledge to the table. The test was easy, and if you already know how to shoot, the range part is going to be a breeze. Our class had this senior couple (70's) who came in and the wife had an Accidental Discharge where she put a bullet in the dirt 5 feet in front of her from her brand new, never fired Beretta - guess what, she still passed. Nice people, god help her if she ever had to defend her life with it though. :rolleyes:

orionengnr
February 1, 2011, 02:01 PM
Seems like a number of people are talking about where they took their class and overlooking the fact that the OP lives in TX.

That said, the class (when I took it) consisted of about 4 hours legal and moral aspects of self-defense and a thorough review of applicable state laws. That was the morning session.

Then a quick lunch break, followed by a safety briefing, then a review/fam of semi-autos and revolvers (nomenclature, operation). Fingerprints and photos were taken off to one side during the classroom session, one applicant at a time.
A review of test protocols, then the written test, grading, and an opportunity to ask questions.

Then we filled out the paperwork package for the state DPS. Off to the range, do the shooting section (described in a previous post) and after getting our scores, we were free to go.

As they had provided picture, fingerprints, package, etc, all that remained was to write a check, stick it in the pre-addressed manila envelope, add postage and wait.

Well-run, one stop shopping, a very pleasant experience.

chadk7
February 7, 2011, 11:55 PM
Well getting my permit consisted of going to the sheriffs dept and filling out a form and living them 50 bucks. Then I sent $75 down to the state police and they sent me back my lifetime permit. I love Indiana.

bikerbill
February 10, 2011, 02:46 PM
When I took my class in '04, one of my classmates was a woman who had just purchased a .38 snubbie and had never even fired it ... she passed, with a bit of help from the instructor ... sounds like you have all the bases covered, practice and knowledge of your weapon being high on the importance scale .. don't worry, be happy, you'll do fine ...