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kwhi43@kc.rr.com
January 17, 2011, 04:58 PM
Not what you were expecting, but a finer pair you will not find. A 1858
Revolver and a 1863 Rifled Musket "Zouave". The musket is 36 years old.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/Rem63.jpg

Hardcase
January 17, 2011, 06:04 PM
A mighty fine set!

sewerman
January 18, 2011, 11:02 AM
nice. :)

my first B.P. gun was a A.Zoli kit purchased from Sears & Robuck in 1978 for $87.00!

i used it during the first year of reenacting. later, after reading an article from the camp chase gazette, a C.W. monthly periodical about how to make the zouave into an 1841 mississippi rifle i decided to do so. which was based on a real harper's ferry armory up grade on turning barrels to accept the 1842 socket bayonet to replace the sword bayonet normally used on the 1841.

turned the barrel in a lath to accept a socket bayonet, purchased the middle & front barrel bands for an 1841 from DGW. made and installed a front sight onto the front barrel band, made & installed a bayonet lug onto the barrel. then purchased an ORIGINAL 1842 bayonet from DGW for $47.00!!!

i never removed the cap box or replaced the rear flip sight.
it was a great success yet soon 2 band rifle of all types were shunned from reenacting. i sold it for the $100.00 W/bayonet. i wasn't too good at retail.
wish i had it now...the rifle shot POA and that bayonet was new looking and now worth $100+......

i also have two remington pietta 1858 just bought this year to do CAS with.
at the time only the 8" version was on sale. later the 5 1/2" version listed at sale price. i would've liked to have had one of each:(

keep that rifle!!!

S.M.

BlackPowderSmoke
January 18, 2011, 12:50 PM
Beautiful set of Remingtons, but isn't that misleading advertising? :p

junkman_01
January 19, 2011, 08:40 AM
Technically a 'rifled musket' was a smooth bore that had rifling added and a 'rifle-musket' was originally made with a rifled barrel. The Zouave would be a rifle-musket. I also have heard that they were produced too late to be used in the Civil War. :D

Doc Hoy
January 19, 2011, 09:17 AM
...I am able to appreciate nice pieces when I see them.

I admire your taste.

bedbugbilly
January 19, 2011, 11:38 PM
My first "modern made" muzzle loading rifle was an 1863 Remington. I bought it in 1964 for $65.00. My Dad helped me out on the $$ - loaned me the money and I paid him off mowing lawns and doing chores. It doesn't have a mfg. or seller's mark on it anywhere - has a beautiful walnut stock and sitting it next to several originals over the years, it's hard to tell the difference. I shot it for many years in NSSA as well as on the farm. Killed a lot of tin cans with it too. I still have it and it holds a lot of memories for me, especially of my Dad who is now gone. They're a lot of fun for sure and excellent shooters. I've put thousands of rounds through mine and with a 60 grain load of FFG, it's right on. :)

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
January 20, 2011, 12:29 AM
Yep, Back in the 70's I was shooting a lot of light bench matches "14lb" and
under. I had a couple of bench guns with the best made custom barrels at
the time. Douglas, H & H, and a Don Goucher. All were 50 cal. At 50 yds, they
would all shot 5 shots into 3/4 inch groups. So one day I took out my Zouave
Zoli Musket and guess what? It too would shoot that also right along with
the best of my bench guns. Kind of ****** me off that a old Musket made
it Italy that cost 72.00 new would do this. Thats the one in the picture. I
still shoot it. Same load as in 1976. 55 grs. Goex FFF, 575 ball and .020
thick blue & white stripe pillow ticking. The barrel on the musket is a 3 groove
1 in 72 twist. It will shoot any powder charge from about 50 grs to 100 grs
The accuracy is scary on these Zoli made Muskets.