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turnerdye1
January 12, 2011, 04:52 PM
i was getting bored with it so i floated the barrel and gave it a camo paint job. me next things to do are to get a scope mount and a bipod for it

brown base coat (primer)
olive and khaki colors
a hint of black

http://i53.tinypic.com/t4wgzn.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/14w3crb.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/ds8k9.jpg

chasep255
January 12, 2011, 05:50 PM
That's cool. I just refinished mine last month but with a boring wood stain. BTW If you want to mount the scope over the bolt it wont work since the bolt handle will strike the scope when it opens. The sniper models of the mosin actually have a bent bolt.

chasep255
January 12, 2011, 05:51 PM
Also what products did you use? Regular spray paint, duracoat?

kx592
January 12, 2011, 05:56 PM
For the scope, brownells sells a mount that replaces the rear sight adjustment so you can keep the bolt the way it is if you dont get a long scope. Something to consider.

As for the paint, looks neat just not my flavor, I prefer the old school classic.

turnerdye1
January 12, 2011, 06:21 PM
yea i plan on gettting a scope mount that replaces the rear sights

this was done with a rattle can. i used krylon camoflauge paint and i think it turned out good

ozarkrecluse
January 12, 2011, 07:12 PM
Looks real good. You did a great job!

Kreyzhorse
January 12, 2011, 08:03 PM
I was afraid to open this thread but like a car wreck, I just had to look. I'm glad I did, that actually looks pretty cool.

DanThaMan1776
January 12, 2011, 08:06 PM
That is an abomination

essohbe
January 12, 2011, 09:43 PM
That is an abomination.

+1

abelacres
January 12, 2011, 09:47 PM
My trailer has the same carpet. :)

Catfishman
January 12, 2011, 09:54 PM
How did you float the barrel?

As for the paint, I'll follow my momma's advice on that one.

jhgreasemonkey
January 12, 2011, 10:54 PM
I did a similar job with krylon camo paint on a mosin I used to have. Except I cut the stock forend and sporterized it a bit. Good for you. It's got character.

Yung.gunr
January 12, 2011, 11:14 PM
That is an abomination

-1

I have to disagree, I don't think that it's an abomination. It's not what I would do to my MN, but it's his gun so it's his choice. You don't like it, move on to a different thread. While it's not my first choice, it looks like he did a good job on it.

turnerdye1
January 12, 2011, 11:15 PM
thanks for all the great comments guys. i spent a good 2 hours painting it to get it to look just right. i found out that a lot of layers helps out a lot

my stock was all beat to heck so i figured it could use a touch up

as far as floating the barrel...you sand where the barrel lays with 600 grit sand paper. sand the whole length of the barrel channel. just the bottom part. do this until you can fit a peice of paper around the barrel and slide it from front to back without it hitting any snags. there is a video on youtube that shows you.

AK103K
January 13, 2011, 12:22 PM
That is an abomination
Thats all in the eye of the beholder.

Most people dont have the balls to paint their guns, so.... it is what it is, if you dont like it, oh well.

From the standpoint of a gun thats going to be used, it makes perfect sense, as an unpainted gun really does stick out in the field, and especially when youre cammied up.

Ive been painting guns and stuff since the 60's. You name it, Ive pretty much painted it, from junk .22's and air guns up to my MP5, AR's AK's etc. The worst part about painting is, once you start, its hard to stop, and it starts to fall under "addiction". :)


If youre going to do more, a couple of hints...

First and foremost, degrease everything well, including your hands before you start.

Brush or spray, use the lightest color in your pattern as the base coat, and spray it on. 2-3 light coats so everything is covered.

If youre going for "break up" cans alone work fine, but dont get to busy. Youre just trying to break up the guns outline, and less is usually better.

This is kind of what I mean, but I actually got a little carried away myself. A little thinner and less on the stripes would have been better.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27ede3cb82d00000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Copying patterns many times is easier with a brush, but you can also get pretty good results with spray cans and notebook or printer paper templates cuts as needed with a knife.

Flecktarn with a brush...
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27f9bf9592e00000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Multicam using templates and cans...
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d624b3127ccec49fb25824e800000040O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9cc32b3127ccef88e21a8e65d00000040O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

When youre done, its best to give the whole thing a couple of three coats or so of clear flat lacquer. It flattens and evens out the paint job even more, and also adds some layers of protection, and helps slow down wear from use and solvents from eating up the paint while cleaning.


Looks like youre off to a good start there Turner, and welcome to "painters anonymous".:D

egor20
January 13, 2011, 12:29 PM
DanThaMan1776
That is an abomination

It can't be an abomination, we haven't heard from Volucris yet :D

turnerdye1
January 13, 2011, 03:30 PM
wow thanks for that great write up. i like your multicam patttern. i also have an AR but im too afraid to paint that...just quite yet. i might later on when the finish starts to wear. painting a 75 dollar Mosin is a lot differant than a 1000 dollar AR lol

AK103K
January 13, 2011, 03:47 PM
LOL I know exactly what you mean. :D

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d707b3127ccec560746461da00000040O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

It really isnt any different though, and if you use the right paints, it will come off, with a little work (no free lunch :) ).

OsOk-308
January 13, 2011, 04:56 PM
[QUOTE]That is an abomination[QUOTE]

I put a monte carlo stock on my m38. I also put a turn down bolt and scope mount on it. It is now a hunting rifle. But I now feel bad about bastardizing a piece of history. I now want a mosin that I will keep in original condition.

scorpion_tyr
January 13, 2011, 05:09 PM
Looks like you ruined a perfectly good gun to me. JMO.

turnerdye1
January 13, 2011, 05:20 PM
i wish i would have taken a before picture to show you guys how bad this thing was beaten up so youll stop your naggin. i bought it from a local guy who didnt take care of it. i had to take wood filler (used for carpentry) to fill in some gashes and nicks in the stock.

i know when posting pictures on a website id get some critism but no so much nagging. if you dont like it move on and dont bitch. but if you have a constructive comment id be more then happy to listen in

Hog Hunter
January 13, 2011, 05:23 PM
Nice paint job guys!! Ive thought about painting one of mine but am scared to death to do it. Got a 20 ga single shot I almost experimentd with and couldnt do it. Still trying to talk mysefl into doin it. Dont think I will. I just accept them for what they are and shoot the mess out of em. Maybe I will when im older but not now.

scorpion_tyr
January 13, 2011, 05:26 PM
If you can't take the critisism, don't post it for the world to see... JMO.

nathaniel
January 13, 2011, 05:36 PM
If you can't take the critisism, don't post it for the world to see... JMO

If you cant say something nice dont say anything at all. Mom taught me that when I was 5 guess some people were raised different.

As for the OP its cool not the usual leaf pattern like everyone does. But a tad too much tan for me, then again Im in woodland areas most of the time. As for the guys harping on you let it roll off your shoulder, most of the guys here are nice but there are a few jerks.

thesheepdog
January 13, 2011, 05:54 PM
That is an abomination

+1


Do what you want with your rifles, but I am sure a lot of people would do otherwise with their guns.

AK103K
January 13, 2011, 06:45 PM
A little bit of paint and everyones an art critic. :)


Ive thought about painting one of mine but am scared to death to do it. Got a 20 ga single shot I almost experimentd with and couldnt do it.
Its really not a big deal. Older, well used guns, especially cheaper, generic guns that hold little value to anyone (we all have one lurking somewhere), are a great starting point.

If you use the right paints, they can be completely removed with a little work if you really dont like it. Hoppes and Gun Scrubber, etc are all thats needed, and some steel wool makes it easier. I painted my well used $20000 MP5 camo for awhile, decided later I wanted it back to what it was, stripped the old Testors off, and then repainted it basic black using Brownells Aluma Hyde II, which short of bead blasting, is pretty much permanent.

MP5 prior to the camo job ...
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27fbd9c595800000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

After the camo was stripped and AH II applied....
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b7d700b3127ccec27e2e75392c00000010O00CYuWbdo5bsQe3nwk/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/


AH II makes a great base coat too, and will allow you to paint over it with things like Testors or Krylon, and then remove them later without loosing the AH II base. The base coat on the Flectarn AR above was AH II in OD.


Do what you want with your rifles, but I am sure a lot of people would do otherwise with their guns.
Yup, thats pretty much it. It all has to do with what you want, and what you feel you need. Some people use their guns, while others fondle and polish them. Nothing wrong with either, as long as youre happy and what you do satisfies your needs.

One other thing about painting that usually isnt considered. It basically rust proofs your gun. Not to long ago I stripped an old Remington 1100 I had painted for over 20 years, and had been used constantly the whole time. When I stripped the paint, there wasnt a speck of rust on the gun anywhere it was painted, and there were also very few scratches in the old bluing, which basically looked like new. The only spots where the finish was worn or showed the effects of some light rust, were a couple of spots where the paint was worn off due to handling/use, mostly along the underside of the receiver around the loading port. I have a couple of "younger" shotguns that werent painted that look a lot worse.

turnerdye1
January 14, 2011, 12:04 AM
im still not sure whether i should do my AR or not lol. thats a bit too much

the only reason i did this is because it needed a touch up, its cheap, and i can always strip it of paint and stain it again

AK103K
January 14, 2011, 08:47 AM
See, its already starting to eat at you.:D

bassfishindoc
January 14, 2011, 10:33 AM
I really like it. With Mosin's going for under $69 a piece I was thinking of doing it myself. I have a few fine examples of Mosin's that I will leave alone, but I have no problem with painting my beat to hell Mosin and turning it into a fun workhorse that I will actually use, and I'm not loosing any value because in the current state it is quite worthless.

turnerdye1
January 14, 2011, 01:12 PM
it is starting to eat at me haha

thats exactly what i was thinking. i plan on keeping this forever and nobody would buy it in the shape it was in so i figured i might as well put some paint on it. i like the way it turned out

TX Hunter
January 14, 2011, 09:46 PM
Well I it will keep it from rusting I guess.
Give ya $50 bucks for it.

turnerdye1
January 14, 2011, 10:14 PM
nah im keeping this one. besides i payed 75 for it haha

essohbe
January 15, 2011, 09:16 PM
AK103K,

Did you use the AlumihydeII in an airbrush or did you get the can of spray paint? Just wanted to get your experience if you used the cans.

I have used AHII Black gloss and Clear-flat, both right out of the spray can. I have to say, you can get a good paint job but it does have to cure correctly. The cans like to spray out little blotches and globs and you have to keep the nozzle's absolutely clean.

Next time, I'm using an airbrush.
Nice MP3 BTW.:cool:

imp
January 15, 2011, 09:30 PM
I've used AH2 from the spray cans on several guns I own. Seems to work better when spraying several really thin coats from a slightly farther distance to avoid the random globs and let it cure for a couple weeks before re-assembly. It did gob up in the slide rails on the frame of a S&W 4006, so I had to strip...

AK103K
January 15, 2011, 10:15 PM
Ive only used the cans, and with good luck. They sell spare nozzles too, and its worth getting some.

As imp said, thin/light coats work best, and you do have to allow it to cure. A week should do, and fight the urge to do anything with it til it does.

Brownells has videos you can watch, and they are very helpful.