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Patriot86
January 8, 2011, 09:10 PM
I wandered into Dicks sporting goods this afternoon looking for some new boots and I stumbled over into their small firarms section. I am not typically one to buy guns in "big box" store but this deal seems to be pretty damn hard to beat.

Now to the crux of the issue, they had a Remington 770 in .30-06 including a Bushnell scope for $319.00

I do not know much about Remington rifles or Bushnell scopes so I was crossing my fingers that you guys could answer a few questions for me.
If the Bushnell scope is garbage that is no problem, I have always been a fan of Leupold scopes myself.

#1 Is this a good deal? "Starting price" on Remingtons sight is about $100.00 more, and I have seen similar rifles WITHOUT scope starting at just over $400.00 new at my LGS.
#2 What quality of scope is a Bushnell, if a Leupold or Nikon was a 10 where would Bushnell fall?
#3 What is your opinion/review of the Remington 770 rifle? It felt natural and weighty in the right areas in my grip, how does this weapon stack up reliability and durability wise?

Anything you would like to add or bring up about this weapon or scope would also be appreciated.

DiscoRacing
January 8, 2011, 09:20 PM
Nice quality rifle... I would like to get one in the Stainless Camo..

... On your grading system I would call the scope a 4...maybe 5

Im typically not one to spend 600 or 700 bucks on a scope tho...

...so you know I have no leupolds.

Patriot86
January 8, 2011, 09:28 PM
I like Leupold because it is mainly what I learned to shoot with. My fathers .22 and Springfield 30-06 both have Leupold scopes. I suppose trial and error is in order to see if i end up finding the scope tolerable.


So the $319.00 good deal?

Doyle
January 8, 2011, 09:34 PM
Nice quality rifle...
I've seen people call the 770 (and it's predicessor the 710) lots of things, but "quality" generally isn't one of them.

The scope isn't really worth anything. For that price there are several better choices including the Stevens 200, Savage Edge, and Marlin XR7. A "decent" scope starts out at about $150 and goes up from there.

ojibweindian
January 8, 2011, 09:40 PM
#1 Is this a good deal? "Starting price" on Remingtons sight is about $100.00 more, and I have seen similar rifles WITHOUT scope starting at just over $400.00 new at my LGS.

This is NOT a good deal. Many people hate this rifle MORE than the Remington 710, which is itself an unmitigated steaming pile of excrement. The barrel is pressed in, not threaded like anything halfway decent. The trigger is rough and heavy.

#2 What quality of scope is a Bushnell, if a Leupold or Nikon was a 10 where would Bushnell fall?

Just a bit above a Tasco, maybe. 1-10 scale? I'd rate it a 2. Won't track, not very clear, horrible eye relief. I wouldn't even put one on a 22.

#3 What is your opinion/review of the Remington 770 rifle? It felt natural and weighty in the right areas in my grip, how does this weapon stack up reliability and durability wise?

Again, you won't be able to replace the barrel, the trigger probably can't be replaced, plastic just about everywhere.

If you're looking for a budget rifle, you'd be better off with a Marlin XL7, used Savage, a Stevens 200, or a used Remington 700.

DiscoRacing
January 8, 2011, 09:40 PM
but "quality" generally isn't one of them
Hmm.... I guess I meant for that price...

... I mean its not a Howa(Which is what I have most of)

... I would call it a fair deal... As stated the scope really isnt much... but base and mounts would still be included...

.. Its not like buying a rifle for 500 or 600 then haveing to buy base, mounts, and scope.

fisherman66
January 8, 2011, 09:44 PM
I agree Doyle. The 770 may be serviceable. I can't think of any complements though. Cheap scopes are more worrisome for me. I sat on a Leupold for over 30 minutes waiting for dense fog down in a holler to clear for a clean shoot. Even with very long eye relief and sharp image I started to suffer fatigue. A crapper scope is going to magnify that problem.

Steven/Savage, Howa, Weatherby, Mossberg all have a value rifle that much better built. I won't comment on the Bushnell scope as they make some very good models and some blister pack wally world scopes too. I don't know what you have.

DiscoRacing
January 8, 2011, 09:50 PM
some blister pack wally world scopes too. I don't know what you have

LoL...

.. I would just take a stab in the dark here...

Im guessin its NOT a 3200, 4500, or 6500 Elite..

Patriot86
January 8, 2011, 09:51 PM
I failed to mention this rifle would be sort of a jack of all trades rifle.
I plan to use it primarily as a varmint rifle but would also double as a deer rifle.
I would had been thinking of springing for an AR-15 style rifle for the same purpose, but I am getting married this year so that would be a little more than i want to spend.

fisherman66
January 8, 2011, 09:53 PM
Disco, you are probably right. Their Banner line is a great value. I put one my my Ruger #1.

DiscoRacing
January 8, 2011, 09:53 PM
I just got a used 270 howa off Gunbroker for 340 bucks.

Point Is

.. you could probably find a better deal used... with a better scope already on it.

DiscoRacing
January 8, 2011, 09:57 PM
Fisherman66... dont know if you have them there or if you have looked into em... but the new Konus Scopes are pretty good...

... to say that they are clear and bright

... I have three of them now...

...and one has been on my howa 30-06 for three years now..and still is holding zero

included pic for ya

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu195/Disco_Racing/100_2820.jpg

Shoes
January 8, 2011, 09:57 PM
Buy a 770 and you'll regret it for as long as you own it. Spend the $150.00 and go with the 700. Trust me.... I'm a manager of a firearms department and without question the 770 is the most commonly "complained about" gun we sell.

Shoes

CK_32
January 8, 2011, 10:25 PM
IMO dont touch a 770.

Go rem 700 and dont regret it. The 770 is the retarded little brother of the 700 that Remington should have aborted a long time ago.

jmr40
January 8, 2011, 10:39 PM
The 770 is not a bargain at any price. For about the same money look at Howa, Weatherby Vanguard, Stevens 200, or Marlin XL-7. Any of these are 10X better guns for about the same money or less.

fisherman66
January 8, 2011, 11:01 PM
Fisherman66... dont know if you have them there or if you have looked into em... but the new Konus Scopes are pretty good...

My problem with most scopes is eye-relief. As a hunter and infrequent range fly I need to be comfortable in field positions. Leupold has always done well with eye-relief. My little Banner has over 4" of ER (muzzle/shotgun 1-4 power).

bassfishindoc
January 8, 2011, 11:54 PM
Run away!!! Fast!!! I have personal experience with these rifles and can tell you that they are trash. Spend a little more and get a Remington 700 or Savage 10/110 that will last for generations. If you are looking for a bargain rifle you can usually find a quality used in gun-stores or on gunbroker.com, especially now that deer season is at a close. If you must have new the Savage Edge/Axis is a good bargain for a rifle that is heads and shoulders above the 770.

hooligan1
January 9, 2011, 09:13 AM
Hey what's the difference between the 710 and the 770?:confused:

natman
January 9, 2011, 09:25 AM
Hey what's the difference between the 710 and the 770?

60. :D

Any other difference is academic, because they are both steaming piles of junk that anyone should avoid owning.

+1 for Marlin XS7, Savage Axis, Howa 1500. Much better rifles at similar prices.

hooligan1
January 9, 2011, 09:27 AM
Natty, that's exactly what my 12 year old said!!:rolleyes:

Wildalaska
January 9, 2011, 09:29 AM
#1 Is this a good deal? "Starting price" on Remingtons sight is about $100.00 more, and I have seen similar rifles WITHOUT scope starting at just over $400.00 new at my LGS.
#2 What quality of scope is a Bushnell, if a Leupold or Nikon was a 10 where would Bushnell fall?
#3 What is your opinion/review of the Remington 770 rifle? It felt natural and weighty in the right areas in my grip, how does this weapon stack up reliability and durability wise?

1. No its a poor deal
2. If a Leupy is a 10, then a Bushnell is a -10
3. Avoid.

WildyougetwhatyoupayforAlaska ™©2002-2010

pabuckslayer08
January 9, 2011, 09:36 AM
To answer number one its a good deal
#2 The scope is a 4, pretty much no good. They cost like 35 bucks
#3 The gun isnt worth it. Lots of platic on it and they arent known for the greatest accuracy. Not a bad rifle for a young kid just wanting to try to get into things but for someone thats used to 700 accuracy you will be disappointed

Woodyed
January 9, 2011, 10:45 AM
It's been said many times that the 710 and 770 are Remington's "disposable rifles" meaning that when they are shot-out or need any repair, just throw them out and forget any repairs. A rifle to look hard at is the Marlin X7 series of rifles. They are not expensive, have wonderfull adjustable triggers, are very accurate, have very smooth actions, and come with scope bases. The only drawback, if you can call it that, is that they have a blind magazine and not a removable magazine. Did I mention that they are light in weight also. You also mentioned you were looking for a caliber that would be suitable for deer as well as varmints. A 30-06 is a little heavy-duty for varmints not to mention excessive recoil especially when shooting prone or bench shooting. Here I'd like to recommend the 25-06 or even the 7mm-08. Both good calibers for just about all varmint and deer hunting and the recoil is tolerable in a light rifle.

natman
January 9, 2011, 02:15 PM
The purchasing manager at the shop ordered a 770 without consulting the gun guys. It sat on the shelf for months, because none of us would recommend it to any of our customers. We finally got rid of it by making it a "prize" at a Ducks Unlimited dinner.

I have nothing against Remington in general, I own several. I'm past the "starter gun" stage now, but if I weren't I'd buy a Marlin XS7 in a minute and take it hunting anywhere. I'm amazed that you can buy a gun that nice for so little money. I wouldn't own a 770 if it were free.

There are Bushnells and there are Bushnells. The Elite series is a pretty nice scope. A Bushnell that comes bundled with a 770 probably isn't as nice.

tAKticool
January 9, 2011, 02:25 PM
Dick's by me (two stores actually) have a Remington 700 SPS Varmint combo package for $499.99 -- It's the 700, green synthetic stock , 26"? big barrel, with a scope, not sure brand, 3-9x40 I believe. It's not exactly the BEST or Real Good 700 models but it's still a 700, a range of calibers (I know they had .22-250, .223, .243, and .308 which is what I was going to get. I came very close to buying this pack several times and still might. So it's not your 770 .30-06 but I believe most will agree if you can get this deal you're WELL WORTH this over what you're looking at. EVERYONE Told me Jan/Feb 2010 to NOT TOUCH a 770.

joegator
January 9, 2011, 05:57 PM
I would pass on that one. Most packages give you a $20 scope that most buyers wind up throwing in the trash. I don't have personal experience with the 770 but it has generated many negative reviews. I just think there are better choices.

Dick's has the 700 ADL syn & SS for $450 if you can spend the extra money. If I were in the market for a budget setup I'd get the Marlin or the Savage Edge and pair it up with a scope in the $150 range.

joe poteat
January 9, 2011, 09:18 PM
If you are going to get married buy the best rifle/scope combo you really like. After you are married the cheapo will be all she will let you buy!

Cowboy_mo
January 9, 2011, 09:30 PM
I bought a 770 3 years ago when my regular rifle came out of the tree stand and the stock broke.

It has done very well for me though it doesn't like remington ammo at all. It absolutely loves Federal Fusions. Now a gunsmith friend lightened the trigger for me and improved the accuracy a lot.

Yea, its a cheap rifle and the bushnell scope isn't a Leupold or a Zeiss but it has killed a couple of deer.

The price you quote is a very good one so my advice is if it fits you and you like it........ Buy it!!!!!!!

Fusion
January 9, 2011, 10:43 PM
No way I'd buy the 770 when you can get some great rifles in that price range. The Savage Model 110's or 10 if you get a short action at Walmart with the accu trigger and a cheap scope for $400 at Walmart are one heck of a good deal for an amazing rifle. The scope isn't the best, but it should get you by until you can get a better one and unlike the 770 the rifle will be one that should last you a lifetime. The Marlin XL-7/XS-7 is another good choice in that price range. I prefer the Savage, but they are both good rifles.



... I would call it a fair deal... As stated the scope really isnt much... but base and mounts would still be included...

.. Its not like buying a rifle for 500 or 600 then haveing to buy base, mounts, and scope. The problem with that is the mounts and rings that come on it are total crap. They should really be replaced, so it's no advantage either. I've used several sets of cheap rings, but after using a few sets of nice quality rings, they really are that much better. I'm not sure why anyone would use cheap aluminum rings. I prefer the Burris Signature Zee rings, but there are other good ring choices too. That being said, if you had to buy a set of rings and mounts, you could probably be setup for around $10 with similar quality rings and bases that come on the 770. So it's not like you are getting anything worth anything with it.

Copeshooter
January 11, 2011, 01:58 PM
In .30-06. It's not the best rifle and almost everything on it is made of plastic but it still shoots. I work for mossberg an I took the rifle to work for a makeover. I had the barrel threaded for a muzzle break from mossberg and had it blued and hot polished. I sandblasted the stock and had it dipped in mossy oak brush. They threw a bi pod, some cheap rings and a barska 4x16-50 varminter on it and haven't messed with it since. Everything was free so I'm not complaining. I went out to shoot it the other day and best was 2 in groups at 100 yards with 165 gr core lokts. Not tooo bad for a rifle in that price range. Only problem I had was that the front mount broke to place the bi pod. Other than that it's not toooo shabby but Remington could have done better..

Bamashooter
January 11, 2011, 06:27 PM
My brother bought one in .270 for christmas. I shot it about a week ago and it shot some pretty nice groups. It wouldnt have been my first choice but it shot good. I didnt like the trigger but that can be fixed. The bushnell scope dialed in with no problem.

Big Pard
January 11, 2011, 11:07 PM
The 710 and 770 are definitely NOT of the same quality as the 700. You may want to steer clear of the Wally World specials, rumor is that they get poor quality firearms because the order in such huge volumes. A friend of mine bought a 710 and during its first season the gun started falling apart-literally. The bolt would come out while cycling and the clip would fall out while shooting. Bushnell does make good scopes, but the ones that come with the 770 are better suited for 22's. You may be money ahead to find a used 700 and get a Burris or Nikon scope. Hope this helps

Buddy

Fusion
January 12, 2011, 11:38 AM
The 710 and 770 are definitely NOT of the same quality as the 700. You may want to steer clear of the Wally World specials, rumor is that they get poor quality firearms because the order in such huge volumes. A friend of mine bought a 710 and during its first season the gun started falling apart-literally. The bolt would come out while cycling and the clip would fall out while shooting. Bushnell does make good scopes, but the ones that come with the 770 are better suited for 22's. You may be money ahead to find a used 700 and get a Burris or Nikon scope. Hope this helps

BuddyIt started falling apart not because it was from Walmart, but because it is a crappy gun. The 710's and 770's and just as crappy from a gun shop.

Big Pard
January 12, 2011, 03:34 PM
True, but I have looked at other guns sold by Wal-Mart and they didn't look like the ones sold at gun shops-Barrel finish didn't match receiver, checkering was a little off, stock finish was so-so..Not on all the guns but on some that is. I just have the feeling that Wally World gets the factory seconds when they are available.

bultobilll
March 12, 2011, 09:55 AM
I bought mine used ok I gave $300 for it, but the big box stores don't sell them around here. I got this one for draggine around the woods of northern MN and not having to worry about scratching it. This used one is like new only fired a couple of times. OK it's not my Dad's old 700 BDL 300 win mag (That got away from me without my knowledge GGGRRRRR) The fitand finish is now where near that quality. After we get it on the range more coments will post. I am new to this forum thing evryone

natman
March 12, 2011, 12:43 PM
True, but I have looked at other guns sold by Wal-Mart and they didn't look like the ones sold at gun shops-Barrel finish didn't match receiver, checkering was a little off, stock finish was so-so..Not on all the guns but on some that is. I just have the feeling that Wally World gets the factory seconds when they are available.

If that were true, they'd have ALL the 770s. If a 770 doesn't set off your junk detector, then you need to get it recalibrated.

roachcore
March 12, 2011, 01:51 PM
If you buy this rifle you will hate yourself for it this gun isn't even a good deal at $50 just pretend you never saw it and walk away calmly

L_Killkenny
March 12, 2011, 03:52 PM
If a 770 doesn't set off your junk detector, then you need to get it recalibrated.

Couldn't said it better myself. Yes, the yare that bad.

LK

bailey bud
March 12, 2011, 04:11 PM
I looked at the 770 at Sportsman's warehouse.

It's junky compared to the much nicer Remington 700 (ADL).

Of course, the ADL is not as nice as the BDL or CDL.

Things I noticed:
- magazine is not durable
- work the bolt - and notice all the play (and grinding sensation) that you get
- Notice the scope is really cheap - and will hold its aim for maybe a half dozen shots.
- Plastic trigger guard is cheap, and waiting to break.

In a nutshell - I opted not to purchase the 770, and save up a little (I'm buying the Weatherby Vanguard)

Jim243
March 12, 2011, 05:58 PM
Jest get the Savage Axis, comes with scope, mag feed, better trigger, stock and more accurate.

Jim

Fusion
March 12, 2011, 08:51 PM
Jest get the Savage Axis, comes with scope, mag feed, better trigger, stock and more accurate.Or just spend a couple more dollars and pick up the Savage Model 10 or 110 depending on the caliber at walmart for $387 with a scope. It is a much nicer rifle quality wise, as well as having the famous accu trigger that's great. IMO this is the best buy in this price range. I just don't think you can really beat it.

Eagle0711
March 12, 2011, 09:37 PM
Thanks for the info. on the Rem 770. My son in law, and me are considering one each, but with all the neg. feedback I'm going to pass.

langenc
March 13, 2011, 08:36 PM
Buy once, cry once--buy twice, cry twice

Save the bucks till you can get a real gun. You will have it a long time.