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dalegribble
December 21, 2010, 10:19 PM
this new true grit movie has me thinking if it's a good movie that more will follow. also maybe a new generation will become interested in cowboy guns. is anyone besides me a cowboy at heart? my cowboy guns are.
1. 22 henry large loop lever
2. 30/30 winchester
3. 44 mag winchester trapper
4. 45 winchester trapper
5. 45/70 marlin 1895 cowboy
6. 45/70 h&r buffalo classic
7. 45/70 uberti sharps
8. 12 ga double barrel coach gun
9. 20 ga stoeger double barrel

1. 22 hawes single six
2. 22/22mag ruger single six
3. .22 uberti stallion
4. 44 BP colt 1851 cap and ball replica
5. 44 BP remington 1858 cap and ball replica
6. 44 BP colt 1861 cap and ball replica
7. (2) 45 uberti cattleman cc & blue
8. 45 cimarron thunderer cc & blue

my wants are.
1. 22 mag lever
2. .45 large loop lever
3. 50 BP hawkins
4. 12 ga 1897 shotgun
5. .22 blued derringer
6. 44 mag ruger blackhawk
7. .22 mag nickle derringer
8. 45 uberti cattleman nickle

my biggest regret is selling my never fired .22 mag winchester 94

30-30remchester
December 21, 2010, 11:16 PM
I hope I dont burst your bubble but I knew a few old time real cowboys as well as some modern day cowhands. They used such a wide variety of guns. Most seldom used guns. I know only one true real cowhand that still works cattle daily and actually rides the high country on horseback on a weekly basis and after 50 years of riding says he has never had a gun on a horse. When asked what did he carries, he simply pulled out a stockman pocketknife. Says he has had to put down a crippled horse with it. One of the toughest cowhands I ever met passed away a few years back. Many years living on a ranch 47 miles from town, cattle and horses couldnt pay the bills so bounty hunting for lions, and bobcats was the meal ticket. Beef was never eaten as mule deer everywhere. A Savage model 1899 in 25-35 Win was the only big gun the ranch had. It cant be counted the number of deer, bear, and cats this one gun has taken since its owner aquired the ranch in the 40's. Did I mention that this tough hombre that lived such a primitive life was a woman. Her husband was busy with the ranch so she did the trapping and hunting. Lets see, another pool rider cowhand that worked the high pastures all summer long used a Mossberg 800 bolt action 30-06. Two sheep herding families that I know also lived the rugged Colorado mountain life. These people live for months at a time in the mountains and use guns more than cowhands do because coyotes and bears eat many more sheep than cattle. The first carries just one rifle, a single shot 22. The other buys the cheapest rifles available as they generally only last 1 to 2 years before they are destroyed. The last I talked to him he had a Remington 788 in 243 in his scabbard. This guns was UGLY. He is also the only rancher I ever knew who used a handgun. He carried it in his saddlebags, an old Colt Woodsman. A rancher I have coffee with on a daily basis says he has a couple handguns but hasnt seen or shot them in 30 years and not sure he even shot one of them. What I believe you are refering to isnt COWBOY guns but outdoorsmen guns. I have studied old and modern outdoorsmen and indeed many of these carried a gun daily. And the one thing I was able to determine in their choice of firearms was whatever was available at the time they needed one. Once purchased, seldom did they change guns.

dalegribble
December 22, 2010, 08:30 AM
well, i only know what i grew up watching on tv :) gene and roy had some guns similar to mine and that makes me happy. i think i read somewhere where a colt 45 cost a cowboy about 3 months wages and not every cowboy had one. converted cap and ball pistols were cheaper and more common. my point wasn't that cowboys had all the guns i listed but rather the guns i listed (not calibers) were guns that were used during that period. i'm a tv cowboy not a real cowboy and i'm glad to have some of the guns i saw on tv. just my little collection of western history as i remember it on saturday mornings when i was a kid :)

Alden
December 22, 2010, 08:42 AM
Nice collection Dale. You need to add a couple of the old calibers to your collection for authenticity, like the 44-40 and 32-30, for example.

I love them too, but I only have a Ruger Vaquero (in .357 magnum, not a cowboy caliber!) and a Marlin 30-30 (again, a modern caliber). I want to ad another lever gun some time this upcoming year. I'm thinking about either a 45-70 or .44 magnum, probably a Marlin or a Rossi.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii112/50rob/DSCF2348.jpg

Aguila Blanca
December 22, 2010, 08:46 AM
my cowboy guns are.
1. 22 henry large loop lever
2. 30/30 winchester
3. 44 mag winchester trapper
4. 45 winchester trapper
5. 45/70 marlin 1895 cowboy
6. 45/70 h&r buffalo classic
7. 45/70 uberti sharps
8. 12 ga double barrel coach gun
9. 20 ga stoeger double barrel

1. 22 hawes single six
2. 22/22mag ruger single six
3. .22 uberti stallion
4. 44 BP colt 1851 cap and ball replica
5. 44 BP remington 1858 cap and ball replica
6. 44 BP colt 1861 cap and ball replica
7. (2) 45 uberti cattleman cc & blue
8. 45 cimarron thunderer cc & blue
At least half of the guns on that list are not "cowboy" guns, in that they didn't exist during "cowboy" days. They might look sort of like guns that did exist back then, but that's not really the same thing, is it?

Alden
December 22, 2010, 08:51 AM
Maybe you aughta get in touch with SASS (Single Action Sport Shooters) association through the internet to see what these guys use at their competitions. They are real sticklers for authenticity.

Jbar4Ranch
December 22, 2010, 09:08 AM
I've got "a few"... ;)

mikejonestkd
December 22, 2010, 09:39 AM
I've got "a few"...

That's an understatement....you have a fantastic collection.

I have a few; three revolvers, and two rifles that are SASS approved.

CajunBass
December 22, 2010, 10:25 AM
All my "Cowboy type" guns are 22's. A Marlin 39A, an Ithaca 49, three Ruger Single-Six's, a Bearcat, and a Colt Frontier Scout.

At least half of the guns on that list are not "cowboy" guns, in that they didn't exist during "cowboy" days. They might look sort of like guns that did exist back then, but that's not really the same thing, is it?

Maybe not...but if they'd been around, they'd have used them. ;)

Jim March
December 22, 2010, 11:23 AM
I only have one - a Ruger New Vaquero in 357, heavily modified to a point where a SASS judge would choke :).

But it's also my daily-carry-without-fail CCW piece and my sole centerfire gun period. Had it since 2005, it's in good shape but half the grip frame bluing is gone exactly where my hands fit it. It's carried in custom leather of my own design, usually set up as a very high-ride crossdraw and concealed under a light jacket.

silvercorvette
December 22, 2010, 01:39 PM
Whatever floats your boat and makes you happy is all that matters. Most of my long guns are lever actions, plus two .22 Colts SA, and one .45 Colt SA plus two .44 BP replicas.

Heck I even went a Winchester one of one hundred lever action because I liked the Jimmy Stewart movie Winchester 73

brotus2
December 22, 2010, 01:43 PM
The first gun I ever bought for myself back in 1980 was an 1892 Winchester in 38-40, serial number 18xxx. I actually went with a buddy to buy a handgun but I saw the Winchester standing in a corner and that was it!

Since then I've accumulated a big 'ol Fort Know full of levers in damn near every calibre made. I also have a very early Colt Buntline, Frontier Scout in 22mag, and an original blackpowder govt Colt SAA.

Shoot them all at the range and boy, do they draw a crowd.

dalegribble
December 22, 2010, 03:25 PM
"They might look sort of like guns that did exist back then, but that's not really the same thing, is it? "

yeah and my colt ar-15 isn't a VN era m-16 either but it fills that notch in my collection...at least in my mind. i see your point but you're missing mine. i know they are replicas, maybe not even exact replicas in some cases. in many cases they are even better than the originals. my point wasn't to take me back to the 1880's but to take me back to the 1950's and 1960's where i grew up watching many of those cheesy B westerns that i loved so much. it's not so much history i'm trying to reproduce but the fun i had as a kid but with real guns :) btw i think at least 11 of my guns are used frequently by people in the sass.

30-30remchester
December 23, 2010, 12:08 AM
I hope I didnt spoil your fun. I as well am a great fan of "OLD WEST" guns. I have collected and shot these historic guns. When I hunt with and shoot original historical arms it leaves me wondering who else used these guns and what kind of animals they have taken and what kind of adventures they have had. Putting your cheek against an original Sharps and aiming it at a B

30-30remchester
December 23, 2010, 12:11 AM
OPPS sorry about that, to continue, and aiming at a buffalo one more time, is awe inspiring.

45lcshooter
December 24, 2010, 05:39 AM
i got a win 94 30-30, win 94 32spl, and a Uberti 45lc for now. but more to come down the road. those are about it for the rifles, a buddy of mine showed me his 45 and that got me started on the 45's.

Hal
December 24, 2010, 07:31 AM
They might look sort of like guns that did exist back then, but that's not really the same thing, is it?
In my case - yes!

Hollywood and TV don't bother with trying to be correct so why should I?
Or anyone else that "likes the cowboy stuff"...

Re: the OP ?

Yep, got some S/A Rugers and a few lever guns and a couple of coach guns and a two shot deringer.
Put on my duster & stetson & I'm happy as a pig in a poke...

sewerman
December 24, 2010, 09:03 PM
my buddy got me into lever guns.....

i have several, mostly 30-30 marlins & a marlin LTD II 1892 45/70.

purchased some blackhawks .357... real nice guns for the money.

now have started to build an impression of a confederate veteran heading west for a new life. columbia shell jacket, 1830 style shirt, 1850 style trousers, shaw colllared vest,& civilian shoes from the 1850 called spencers, a couple hats from bender & clearwater, canvas 45/70 cartridge belt with slim jim holsters & a pair of 1858 remingtons worn jesse james style.

did confederate army impressions for years now looking forward to going west.
:)
s.m.

BODAME
December 24, 2010, 09:31 PM
A few of my Cowboy Rigs:
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/HAGEN442/093.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/HAGEN442/098.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/HAGEN442/096.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/HAGEN442/091.jpg
The little Sheriff's Model with the Holliday Rig is one of my favorite Jacket Carry Combinations.

00 Hagen
Hiram's Ranger #24

EdInk
December 25, 2010, 10:14 AM
I currently have a Ruger New Vaquero. Depending on how things go in the next few months I can hopefully get a second Vaquero, a coach gun and a lever rifle. We'll see about it.

Hawg
December 25, 2010, 10:50 AM
Maybe you aughta get in touch with SASS (Single Action Sport Shooters) association through the internet to see what these guys use at their competitions. They are real sticklers for authenticity.

Umm, no they're not. They allow Rugers and modern Henry's.

I have an original 1887 12 gauge lever action, a Rossi 92 in 44-40, Uberti Cimarron 73 Colt in 44-40(had two but one got stolen)several period double barrels. Two 58 Remington Armies and two 58 Remington Navies.

BTW its Single Action Shooting Society

Buzzcook
December 26, 2010, 04:19 PM
30-30remchester: You remind me of a story my father-in-law sed to tell. While visiting Oklahoma he was talking with a group of men. The only man in that group who wasn't wearing cowboy boots was the guy that actually worked on a ranch.

The only Western style gun I own is an Italian 1873 SAA clone.

R.O
December 26, 2010, 08:06 PM
yes yes there are cowboy fans all over the world
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7776/coltg.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2412/scoltcollection.jpg

R1145
January 4, 2011, 04:16 AM
now have started to build an impression of a confederate veteran heading west for a new life.

Don't forget the '51 Navy Colt revolvers!

Ideal Tool
January 6, 2011, 01:01 AM
Hello, 30-30remchester hit it on the head with what he said. I remember reading of John Westly Hardins life..he was punching cattle, when some Mexicans tried to rustle some cows, he drew an old cap & ball revolver..& had to hold the cyl. back against the frame for the hammer to hit the caps...it was worn so loose! He seemed to like the old percussion guns though, when he was captured in Florida, he was carrying one..long after the "better" ctg. guns were in common use. One thing we must remember..money was tight those days. There were many 'Panics" (depressions), as no gov.regulations existed..(no wellfare either!) one didn't just discard a good percussion firearm just because some new fangled 'Catridge gun" came out on the market. Even when the New Haven Arms Co. came out with their "Henry" rifle, it is said it was looked upon in it's day as we look upon a high capacity 9mm...kind of nice in a fire fight, but does the average joe need one? Even more important was the fact it couldn't be reloaded...not a small consideration if traveling the west with it's far flung outposts. A far more practical weapon would have been an early Ballard with it's dual firing system..it was chambered for .44 rimfire..however, the breech block also had a percussion nipple mounted on it. If the rimfires gave out, a small hole was punched in the center of the head of the soft thin copper case. ctg. was charged with powder & bullet seated. A pivoting nose on hammer was turned down to strike cap on breech-block nipple. Modern shooters report it works quite well.
Another thing, the "Cowboy" was one of the lowest paid workers there were
at $13.00 for a Colt, that was a months wage. Hollywood likes to arm all it's western actors with Colt peacemakers & 92' Win. It just ain't so!

Snakedriver
January 6, 2011, 08:34 AM
Here's an old Winchester '94 that rode the Colorado cattle range on horseback for 30 years back in the early 1900's with my cowboy uncle. Although the wear from rough use is obvious, the gun actually hasn't been fired all that much. It came to me still in the old worn saddle scabbard with a couple boxes of vintage 20-30's era .30-30 ammunition.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/466/winchester03.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/winchester03.jpg/)

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8910/winchester01.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/winchester01.jpg/)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5792/winchester04.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/winchester04.jpg/)

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9953/winchester08.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/winchester08.jpg/)

Tanker6
January 6, 2011, 04:15 PM
I'm a newbie at SASS and starting to get all of the guns necessary for me and my daughter to compete. Until then, club members have let us shoot spares or back-ups.

Our first purchase was a pair of 1871-2 Open Tops in .38 special and a Thunderer in .38/.357. I've got my eyes open for a 1897 Winchester pump and a 1892 (probably) lever action in .38/.357 for us to share initially. I'll still need to find another Thunderer for her or at least a birdshead pistol of the same caliber.

So far, we're lovin' the SASS shoots!

Hardcase
January 6, 2011, 04:50 PM
The only one that ever spent any time on the range is the ~1974 '94 in the center. My father in law spent some time in the saddle with that gun, herding his buddy's crazy cattle in the central Idaho mountains.

http://www.fluidlight.com/Guns/levers_2.jpg

I love my cowboy guns!

mrappe
January 10, 2011, 08:53 AM
1) 1873 Winchester mfg 1885 38 WCF
2) 1892 Winchester mfg 1910 32 WCF
3) 92 Rossi .357
4) 1997 Winchester 12 ga mfg 1912
5) Uberti Single Action .45 Colt
6) Colt Frontier Six Shooter 44WCF mfg 1903 - unfortunately I don't have this anymore
7) USFA Single Action Premium Revolver .45 Colt
8) Pietta 1858 Remington .44
9) Pietta 1860 Army.44
10) EMF 'Dakota Model' Single Action .357
11) Ruger Single Six .22 Mag
12) Springfield 12 ga double barrel sxs
13) 1891 Mauser 7.65

rodent.22
January 11, 2011, 09:03 PM
I have a pair of Vaqueros in .45 Colt, a 94 Winchester in .45 Colt (self-installed large loop- not worth a darn for cowboy action shooting but FUN anyway), a Stoeger Coach gun in 12 Guage and a H&R Buffalo Classic in 45/70 (second barrel in .38/55). Oh yeah a Bond .45 LC/.410 Texas Defender. These are not historically accurate but ALL legal for Cowboy Action, and ALL a blast to shoot.:D

Fingers McGee
January 11, 2011, 11:41 PM
Cowboy guns are about all I own anymore. Consists of lever and pump actions in .44-40; single actions in 44-40; SxS, lever action, and pump shotguns in 12 ga; and bunches of .36 and .44 caliber C&Bs. Also have some single shot rifles, deringers, and pocket pistols.

CM COOP
February 5, 2011, 08:14 PM
Hello, I'm new here.

I really like the pictures you guys have posted, so I thought I'd post a few of mine. Love those Single Actions!

Ben Towe
February 6, 2011, 12:00 AM
1847 Colt Walker
Ruger Super Blackhawk
Ruger Single Six
Thompson Center Hawken .45
CVA percussion "duelling" pistol .45

30-30remchester, not to take away from the cowboys you knew, but even around the turn of the century the west was not the place it was in 1870. You might have gotten by carrying just your pocket knife but it would have been risky at best.

Hawg
February 6, 2011, 05:22 AM
30-30remchester, not to take away from the cowboys you knew, but even around the turn of the century the west was not the place it was in 1870. You might have gotten by carrying just your pocket knife but it would have been risky at best.

A lot of cowboys in 1870 didn't even own a gun.

Ben Towe
February 6, 2011, 03:28 PM
This is taking the thread off topic so I intend to start another to discuss it further.

bbqncigars
February 6, 2011, 03:40 PM
I own four Marlin cowboy rifles. A 39, an 1894 in 25-20 (my favorite rifle), a pre-smokeless 1893 in 38-55, and a new 1895.

Pukindog
February 8, 2011, 09:44 AM
I own the following "Cowboy" guns; All are shooters
Uberti 1873 Deluxe Sporting Rifle .45 Colt (Pictured)
Uberti 1873 Deluxe Sporting Rifle .357 Mag (Pictured)
C. Sharps 1885 Hi-Wall .32-40 Win.
C. Sharps 1874 Boss Gun .45-90 Win.
C. Sharps 1875 .38-55 Win.
Uberti SAA .45 Colt
Pair of Colt SAA's .45 Colt ( Pictured )
No "Cowboy" shotguns (yet)

Love 'em all

Jeff

MCCALL911
February 8, 2011, 10:32 AM
If "cowboys" mean characters from Western movies and old TV shows, yes.
Aside from the ubiquitous Colt SAA's and Winchester Models 73 and 92, there are a few more that are on my wish list, in no particular order:

1. Ben Cartwright's (nickel-plated?) 1858 Remington in "Bonanza"
2. Trinity's Griswold and Gunnison in "They Call Me Trinity", "Trinity is Still My Name", etc.
3. Tuco's 1851 Colt Navy in "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly"
4. The 1876 (I believe) short magazine Winchester rifle of Paul Newman's character in the movie "Hombre." (Really any 1876 Winchester, for that matter.)
5. I know it's a '92, but Chuck Connors trick Winchester carbine in "The Rifleman." (Has to be the most famous gun on TV!)

Jim March
February 8, 2011, 01:46 PM
There were a ton of "mouseguns" in the real "Old West" that nobody talks about any more, except for the "lady with the Derringer" meme. Pocket revolvers in .22 through .38short-weak-and-barely-useful-by-our-standards.

Pointing something like that at somebody was basically saying "yeah, you can kick my butt, but you'll die of infection a week from now".

And that was a damned serious threat!

otteray
February 8, 2011, 10:51 PM
Jim,
Like these oldies of mine from the 1890s ?

Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless
.32 S&W
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/otteray/SW2.jpg

And a 38 S&W
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/otteray/Smith%20and%20Wesson/38SWNewDepartureabout1892SN44997001.jpg

Hardcase
February 9, 2011, 10:17 AM
Like these oldies of mine from the 1890s ?

Amen, brother! H&R "The American" .32 S&W Short

http://www.fluidlight.com/Guns/h_r_american_2.jpg

Ben Towe
February 9, 2011, 04:42 PM
67218
I just got Tapatalk so I can upload photos now, so here are a few cowboy guns mixed with a few modern samples.

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

Nite Ryder
February 12, 2011, 12:27 AM
I've been shooting in SASS matches since 2006 and a life member of SASS. Most new shooters start out with 45 Colt guns and eventually switch to 38 special fired from 357 Magnum revolvers. The name of the game is speed and accuracy, so less recoil means you can fire five shots from two different revolvers and 10 shots from a rifle quicker if you can stay on target. The shotguns used are either SXS (Coach guns), 97 Winchester (or clones) or an '87 lever action Winchester (or clone). When we have an annual match there are sometimes side matches, where Quigley type single shot rifles can be used. Some people do use Black Powder in revolvers, rifles, and shotgun, but not many. There are different categories people shoot in depending on age, guns used, and other things. Here are a few of my single action guns, not all are Cowboy Guns. I have a few lever action rifles as well. I use a Winchester 73 clone for matches, but a Marlin 1894 in 38 caliber is hard to beat.

CM COOP
February 25, 2011, 09:13 PM
This is one of my favorites, my USFA 44 special. I think USFA makes a fine six gun. I've been a cow boy fan since I was a child, dont ride a horse, but like lead and gun smoke!!