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mike in nc
August 26, 2010, 09:24 PM
Hi all, I am new here and to black powder, I have a navy 1851 that I really llike, but as so many, have my sites on another. I have been looking at the model below, but not sure about the polished steel. Have had no experience with this finish. If anyone has experience with it, or the gun I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp;jsessionid=J5VVWTM0Z4GDFLAQBBJCCONMCAEFAIWE?id=0006191210070a&navCount=3&podId=0006191&parentId=cat20817&masterpathid=&navAction=push&cmCat=netcon&catalogCode=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20817&hasJS=true&_requestid=214268

Fingers McGee
August 26, 2010, 10:56 PM
I've got three of them - 2 in .44 and one in .36 - finish is tough as nails. Cylinder face will stain; but a little simichrome polish takes care of it.

FM

Doc Hoy
August 27, 2010, 03:10 AM
Welcome to the forum.

Where abouts in NC?

Noz
August 27, 2010, 09:03 AM
Fingers, I have an 1860 now in the polished steel. I was wondering if the finish is a coating of some sort? I'm thinking of browning it like my others.

Hardcase
August 27, 2010, 09:17 AM
Doggone you guys, do you know how hard I try to not look at Cabela's web site? It seems like every time I do, my bank account takes a hit, followed by my body taking a hit from my wife! And now you're actually posting links right to the very items! Enablers...that's what you are!

Sigh...another week of sleeping with the hounds for me...

Fingers McGee
August 27, 2010, 09:44 AM
Fingers, I have an 1860 now in the polished steel. I was wondering if the finish is a coating of some sort? I'm thinking of browning it like my others.

I have no idea what Pietta uses on them. The only thing I've been able to get out of them is that it they are highly polished in-the-white with a stainless like finish - whatever that means. You might try the browning on an inconspicuous spot - like on the inside of the backstrap where the grips would cover it if it didnt turn out well.

One of the .44s I bought used, had some rust spots on the cylinder. The guy I bought it from, to put it mildly, did a poor job of keeping it clean after firing. I used a dremel with polishing wheel and some jewlers rouge to clean the spots. Havent had any recurrence of rust or corrosion in those areas since, and you almost can't tell where the spots were.

mike in nc
August 27, 2010, 12:32 PM
Doc, I am from Morganton,NC. About 40 miles east of Ashville on I-40. Thanks for all the comments, it shore is a purty gun,,,,,,,,,,

Fingers McGee
August 27, 2010, 06:43 PM
Yeah, they're sure purty, and shoot pretty good too.

Here's a picture of my .36:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1704.jpg

Please excuse me for being remiss in welcoming you to the forum :o, so ........

Welcome to the forum Mike :)
Feel free to ask any questions you may have. One of the regulars here is bound to know the answer.

Fingers

mike in nc
August 27, 2010, 08:38 PM
thanks for the welcome Fingers, I really like the grips you have on your gun. By the way, I did quite a bit of work in Jeff City, and Owensville last year, not sure if that is near you or not, nice country up there.

Fingers McGee
August 27, 2010, 10:46 PM
The grip frame and grips are from a GWII. I've never liked the Pietta '51 Navy grips.

Jeff City and Owensville are about an hour and a half from me. I'm in Waynesville. It is beautiful country. I love it here in the Ozarks - except when we get an ice storm and lose power for a week.

Next time you get up this way stop by for a visit.

Fingers

starbuck125
August 28, 2010, 12:35 PM
florida gun works has these for around $259.00. been wanting one myself. should"ve known that fingers done had few:D
thinking real hard the last few months about buying one myself,gun fund low now since i bought a ruger markII a couple months back, plus the wife gives me that look when i mention buying another. hmmmmmm....but then again she never noticed the new rifle or even knew that i"d gotten one. said it looks like all the rest about the house. then she said just how many guns do you have?... told her i"d have to get back with her on that one:D.

bedbugbilly
August 28, 2010, 05:12 PM
Fingers . . . . you guys are really stirring things up by posting links to Cabelas and then having the gall to post the photo even of your revolver! I had a similar revolver - not as pretty as yours but it was a short barreled older Navy Arms. It was a great shooter but . . . . I had a weak moment this week and used it for trading stock towards a Colt Special Army in 38 special that was made in 1909 - a really pristine one! NOW . . . after seeing your photo of your pistol and the link to Cabelas . . . . I'm a getting the "ITCH" again! I'm in a quandry now as I know better than to get another revolver this soon after getting my Colt Special Army . . . . . I have an understanding wife in regards to the addiction we all have . . . but I am trying to reform. Does anyone out there have a name of a good Black Powder Rehab Center???? I'm a fightin' the urge as best I can . . . . . . :D Sigh . . . so many revolvers . . . so little time . . . . . .
:rolleyes:
On the serious side . . . a great looking revolver . . . love the grips! I bet you have a lot of fun with it! :)

bedbugbilly
August 28, 2010, 05:22 PM
Mike in NC - sorry . . . . I was so flustered by all the talk about this great looking revolver and the picture that Fingers posted of his that I forgot to welcome you to the forum! So . . . . . Welcome Mike!!!

There is a great group of guys here - lots of knowledge . . . and a few spoonfuls of "fertilizer" as well. :rolleyes: I hope we see a lot of you here! If you are in NC . . . . keep your ears open when you're outside for loud booms. If the wind is blowing in your direction, you'll probably be able to hear Doc Hoy shooting his latest "ordinance purchase". :)

If you're a reading this Doc . . . . I hope you'll post a photo of it once you have the wheels mounted on it!? :D I really am anxious (seriously) of hearing a range report of what you think of it when you've had a chance to put it though its paces on the range. :)

arcticap
August 28, 2010, 11:51 PM
florida gun works has these for around $259.00.

There have been warnings posted about buying black powder guns from Florida Gun Works.

Fingers McGee
August 29, 2010, 10:48 PM
I have an understanding wife in regards to the addiction we all have . . . but I am trying to reform. Does anyone out there have a name of a good Black Powder Rehab Center???? I'm a fightin' the urge as best I can . . . . . . Sigh . . . so many revolvers . . . so little time . . . . . .


Sorry BBB, there is no cure ;). Every rehab center established has gone out of business cause of the 100% relapse rate :rolleyes:. Just give in to the siren call.

Noz
August 30, 2010, 08:13 AM
FERTILIZER? FERTILIZER? Some snake oil maybe but never fertilizer.

Doc Hoy
August 30, 2010, 12:56 PM
Had occassion to drive through your area not too long ago. Danged nice part of the state. Took a ride out to the Great Smokey Mountain Railroad. (I like trains.)

I do my shootin out on Knott's Island NC, just south of the Virginia line.

Don't get down there often enough to suite me.

mike in nc
August 31, 2010, 07:21 PM
Thanks to all for the welcome and the information, I hope to have one of these beautiful guns in the not too distant future, and learn more about BB.

enyaw
September 4, 2010, 08:07 AM
I heard info that says the metal of those "polished steel" guns is specially hardened to resist rust. Came from Pietta supposedly. Makes sense to me.

mrappe
September 6, 2010, 06:21 PM
Fingers McGee said:

'The grip frame and grips are from a GWII. I've never liked the Pietta '51 Navy grips.'

Who is GWII and do they have a web site?

Fingers McGee
September 6, 2010, 06:29 PM
GWII are Great Western II revolvers made by Pietta and sold by EMF. BS/TG can be gotten from VTI

mike in nc
September 7, 2010, 08:01 PM
"I heard info that says the metal of those "polished steel" guns is specially hardened to resist rust. Came from Pietta supposedly. Makes sense to me."

Hope so, I have one on order

mykeal
September 7, 2010, 10:01 PM
Hmm. It is an interesting metallurgical process that uses hardening to resist corrosion. I wonder how that works.

Bill DeShivs
September 7, 2010, 11:17 PM
Possibly hard chrome plating.

starbuck125
September 9, 2010, 07:50 PM
thanks, for the warning !! arcticap. that might explain the low prices. been looking at them for awhile, but something did"nt seem right to me.

Noz
September 14, 2010, 09:37 AM
Shot my polished steel sheriffs model 1860 at the US Open in Sparta Illinois over the last weekend.
The weather was continuous rain and drizzle for the first day with misty conditions for the second. Obviously extremely high humidity. Friday after shooting I wiped the rain off of all guns, gave them a ballistol spray and put them in their cases. Took them out Sat morning and discovered the polished steel had "flash" rusted. There is obviously no protective on the exterior of the guns.
I'll either blue or brown to reduce this possibility in the future.

mrappe
September 14, 2010, 04:08 PM
Sparta Illinois over the last weekend.
The weather was continuous rain and drizzle for the first day with misty conditions for the second. Obviously extremely high humidity. Friday after shooting I wiped the rain off of all guns, gave them a ballistol spray and put them in their cases. Took them out Sat morning and discovered the polished steel had "flash" rusted. There is obviously no protective on the exterior of the guns.
I'll either blue or brown to reduce this possibility in the future.

Or you could just card off the rust and eventually you would have a cross between and "original finish" as Cimarron calls it and a "slow rust blue". Personally I was thinking of buying a pistol like this to 'rust blue'. I refinished an original 1897 Winchester with the 'slow rust blue' processes and I like the way it looks.