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kwhi43@kc.rr.com
August 26, 2010, 05:41 PM
After loading Cap & Ball pistols with the built in loading for over 50 years, I
thought it was about time to change. I got one of those cylinder loading
things from Powder Inc. I polished it up a little, tried to blue it. I like it!!
I think it will make life a little better.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/0003.jpg

Hardcase
August 26, 2010, 08:15 PM
That looks so nice that I think I'll order one tomorrow!

byronw999
August 26, 2010, 09:37 PM
I bought one about 6 months ago.. They are very well made and well worth the price.... I bought one of the 'cheapo' loaders from Dixie before that is now just a paperweight..

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
August 26, 2010, 09:54 PM
I can see a mod I am going to do tommorrow. The brass seating piece needs
to be cut in half so when the ball is seated the longer steel rod will bottom
out on the face of the cylinder. Therefore the balls will always be seated at
the same depth with the compression of cream-of-wheat and powder always
the same resulting in greater accuracy.

madcratebuilder
August 27, 2010, 06:33 AM
Therefore the balls will always be seated at
the same depth with the compression of cream-of-wheat and powder always
the same resulting in greater accuracy.

How about a collar and setscrew? That would make it adjustable for different depths.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/PICT0011Small-1.jpg

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
August 27, 2010, 02:29 PM
Well dummy me I found out it already has a built in seating jag stop! All you
have to do is loosen the little allen set screw and slide the rammer holding
plate up and down to whatever you want. Works perfect.

Doc Hoy
August 28, 2010, 12:24 PM
....For more than six months is painfully aware of the numerous "Rube Goldberg" contraptions I have come up with for loaders.

Maybe y'all remember that my requirement was that the device be capable of loading a cylinder as fast as the one KWHI has, but be small enough to fit inside of my shooting box.

Well I came up with something but now I am too ashamed to show you any photos of it. When I go home tonight I will drink a coupla Guiness Stouts and then maybe I will have the courage to go yet another round with loader designs.

Remember the first one that was so big I have to get a bigger truck to haul it around?

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
August 28, 2010, 12:34 PM
Awaiting to see it Doc, I just love to tinker with stuff like this. The smaller
the better. The instructing that came with mine said the only adjustment
is the sliding plate that holds the cylinder. Even they don't know about
what I have done and they made it!! I though about making these and
selling them, but I bet there is 15-20 dollars worth of steel in it. Let us see
your pictures.

mykeal
August 28, 2010, 08:38 PM
Nuthin wrong with getting a bigger truck....

Slowhand
August 31, 2010, 05:09 AM
:)
Sounds good to me. Like I need an excuse to buy a new truck another firearm?

Show of some pictures of the Frankenstein Loader Doc when you have at it again.

Doc Hoy
August 31, 2010, 05:12 AM
....of this loader you need to see it taken down and stowed in the shooting box. The shooting box should be complete today, so I will get some photos attached to this thread probably this week end.

But you SOBs have to promise not to laugh. Not even a chuckle Fingers!

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
August 31, 2010, 11:39 AM
Sir, We are not the kind of people who would poke fun at anothers folly.:D

Doc Hoy
September 3, 2010, 03:30 PM
I am posting some photos of the shooting box just completed.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/Dochoy/Shooting%20Box/Boxclosed.jpg

The observant among you will ask..."Where are the handles?" In point of fact, I do not yet know how I am going to carry it, so I don't know where the handles will go.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/Dochoy/Shooting%20Box/Boxopen.jpg

You can see that the chronoghraph fits into the top.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/Dochoy/Shooting%20Box/Bulletend.jpg

I keep round balls in little tubs I get with Chinese food. We like Chinese.

Doc Hoy
September 3, 2010, 03:33 PM
You recall that I wanted a press that fits inside the shooting box and loads at least as fast as the Triple P.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/Dochoy/Shooting%20Box/Pressend.jpg

Here is the press assembled for use. I can load six chambers with one action. I left the part out of the photo which fits between the press and the cylinder that seats the balls against the powder.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/Dochoy/Shooting%20Box/Press.jpg

Doc Hoy
September 5, 2010, 04:10 PM
....of the loader in use with the six chamber loading jig in place.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt259/Dochoy/Shooting%20Box/Cylinderfixture.jpg

Slowhand
September 5, 2010, 04:40 PM
Doc
Great looking shooting box. Talk about space utilization. I'd love to have one like it.

The loader looks like it took some time and a lot of tinkering. Some of those parts are antiques by the look of them. Let us know how it works out on the first field test.

:)

Doc Hoy
September 5, 2010, 05:05 PM
I have used the press two times and so far, so good. I knew that I would need a jig to push the balls into the chambers to compress the powder.

The clamp component is old but not an antique. My recommendation to those who decide to go with this design is to make use of a smaller diameter pipe. The only thing I would be concerned about with a small pipe is that it automatically means a smaller clamp and therefore less mechanical advantage to press the ball home.

Pushing six balls into the chambers with one action takes a lot of force.

Hardcase
September 5, 2010, 05:11 PM
Necessity is the mother of invention! Plato may not have had black powder firearms, but I think that he'd applaud your creation, Doc. And if not, I sure do! That's a pretty slick loader and case.

Doc Hoy
September 6, 2010, 08:10 AM
My thought is to refine the design using a smaller diameter pipe and clamp and if I can get it to work, I will pretty it up by polishing the metal surfaces and painting the rest. I thought I would use a color combination of John Deere Green and Caterpillar yellow. :rolleyes: