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RoundsDownRange
July 24, 2010, 11:03 AM
I have a NM M1A, and I was wondering if there was a flash suppressor that can be noticibly different from the one thats on there now. Although recoil is somewhat mild already, I've heard that there's better flash suppressors to decrease muzzle rise when fired. Any help/experience shared on this would be greatly appreciated :)

SR420
July 24, 2010, 11:37 AM
Smith Enterprise, Inc. has the DC Vortex & M14 Vortex flash hiders Both are excellent flash hiders.
The DC Vortex accepts the M14DC 0.30 Caliber Sound Suppressor.

SEI also offers the amazing M14 US Coast Guard / Navy Muzzle Brake (http://www.smithenterprise.com/misc/uscg_mb01.html).

noyes
July 24, 2010, 11:43 AM
SEI also offers the amazing M14 US Coast Guard / Navy Muzzle Brake.

Nice ....i thought those large calipers were uncontrollable ?
stir pot:D

RoundsDownRange
July 24, 2010, 02:16 PM
SR420 do you have experience with these flash hiders? Is it a noticable difference between the SEI and the SA factory Flash Hider?

SR420
July 24, 2010, 02:18 PM
Yes sir. I have them on my M14s and my 7.62 AKM.
They are the most effective flash hiders available.

Because it will accept a DC suppressor the DC Vortex requires the relocation of
your front sight to the gas lock with your choice of a hooded or dovetail GLFS.

18" barrel with a GLFS-D-18, NM front sight and a DC Vortex

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/07-01-10007.jpg?t=1279999350



The M14 Vortex utilizes your existing castle nut and keeps the front sight post in its current location.

18" barrel with M14 Vortex and NM front sight.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/18inchRRM-1.jpg?t=1279999468

RoundsDownRange
July 24, 2010, 02:22 PM
I'm familiar with SEI.. Guess thier flash hiders will be worth the money they charge lol. Thanks

SR420
July 24, 2010, 02:45 PM
If your prefer to shoot iron sights and/or you will never own a sound
suppressor I highly recommend the M14 Vortex that uses a castle nut.

The DC Vortex shortens your sight radius, 2 inches on an 18.0" barrel, while the
M14 Vortex retains the original location of the front post... sight radius un-changed.


That said, sound suppressors do an outstanding job of eliminating muzzle flash of any kind, they
also reduce recoil & muzzle rise. Check into owning a can if the option is available to you.

I own a single .30 caliber SEI/Fisher M14 suppressor that I move from one weapon to another.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/H2Os-MK14SEICHMod0.jpg

http://www.athenswater.com/images/UltimateAKM-2.jpg

http://www.athenswater.com/images/Suppressed-M21A5-RRM.jpg

RoundsDownRange
July 24, 2010, 03:47 PM
I love the rifles, thanks for the pictures. I would like a can one day. I got my CR FFL recently becuase its required to own a suppressor where I live. I think it will be down the line since I've already put almost 3 grand into the rifle as it is :) I was looking at the new coastguard/navy one that they have. I would really like a can one day though.

kraigwy
July 24, 2010, 04:21 PM
The M-14 comes with flash "HIDERS", not muzzle brakes. They weren't designed for that. So we are talking about muzzle brakes.

That's fine if you find the M-14 recoil objectionable. I never have, even shooting rapid fire. And believe me, you shoot a Rattle Battle (Infantry Trophy Match), you are gonna be shooting rapid fire.

As for the Flash Hider, they work as intended. Shooting a National Match Flash hider, there is ZERO muzzle flash detected at night using M118, If close to the gun, you can see a spark or two coming out of the action, but nothing coming out of the barrel.

That is quite handy on the M-21 version of the M14, used quite successfully in SE Asia at night.

Now as for that prong flash hider shown above, they look almost like the flash hider on the M16. Great for cutting the wire off C-ration boxes. I don't know if its true, but I heard the Bird Cage hider on the A1s was used because we were screwing up the prong hiders cutting wire. Probably not the real reason but I have seen them twisted off because the soldier was twisting it the wrong way while breaking open a C-Ration case.

Besides they stop using wire on c-rats, using some silly tape instead. I like the wire, you always needed bailing wire for something.