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IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 21, 2010, 12:05 PM
We are coming up on one year of having the bullet casting subforum. I am just curious of everyone's thoughts about it. I, personally, think it has been a success and have learned quite a bit from it. What do you guys think?

Shane Tuttle
July 21, 2010, 09:17 PM
Any information that one can gather from it is a success to a certain degree to me. I only wish for more contributers. I know there's more to discuss. Taking a look at another board that specializes in casting, there's plenty of subject matter to exchange. Problem is, there's no forcing members to use what we provide. Our little subforum is no match for an entire board dedicated to casting. Only way we can grow is various members increasing the traffic. And since we're not about numbers here, it's purely up to them to make use of it.

Not a gripe. Just an observation.

DiscoRacing
July 21, 2010, 09:25 PM
I have read the material there and learned from it... I know I havent posted much there. Will have to apply myself a little more.:eek:

TXGunNut
July 21, 2010, 09:31 PM
As a newbie caster, longtime reloader I'm very glad I found this subforum. I've talked w/ other bullet casters but the info here is always what I'm looking for and accurate. No experience with the other forum you refer to but I'm happy here.
You've been a big help, ICH. Thank you.

Shane Tuttle
July 21, 2010, 09:39 PM
You've been a big help, ICH. Thank you.

He's been a bigger help than anyone can imagine. He's the one that came to us to push for a casting subforum. With the blessing from senior Staff, Johnny and I opened 'er up and the rest is history....

GP100man
July 21, 2010, 09:40 PM
It went FAST !!!!:eek: but then again I`m to the age I can give good advice instead of settin bad examples !!!

& I just had another 1 of those B-day thangs:barf:

I vote to make it a regular forum , I think it`s too easy to overlook as a sub forum !!!

I really enjoy helpin noobees castin bullets , it brings back the experiences of when I started some 27 yrs ago.

Things change & info does too !!!

WW used to be the standard , now there hard to find !!!

My thoughts are - - - - - - If ya got em shoot em !!!!:D

TXGunNut
July 21, 2010, 10:06 PM
Dunno, Tuttle8. We have a few very knowledgeable casters like ICH, GP100man, Crusty et al and a few noobs like me who need all the help we can get. Bullet casting is one of the oldest facets of our little game and also (for me, anyway) the most fascinating. Dunno if it's worth the time you and Johnny put into it but I hope you think so.
Thanks for your efforts, Tuttle8, Johnny. Johnny, we're gonna have to try a bit harder to get that cup of coffee we talked about.

Shane Tuttle
July 21, 2010, 10:13 PM
It's well worth the time to have it. It's VERY low maintenance due to few urinating contests and none of the "vs." crap we have to contend in the other discussion forums. It's the easiest portion of the board to moderate to be honest. Unfortunately, the kid that needs the least attention normally gets the least...

GP100man
July 21, 2010, 11:23 PM
Well Tuttle8 , I have`nt examined all da angles & ifin it`ll keep our forum out of the urinateing stream of things & out of this vs. that & we keep good info flowin here I`m happy with the way it is.


CROW the other dark meat!

Ed_
July 22, 2010, 05:53 AM
I enjoy the casting forum immensely. The Casting 101 sticky is the reason I got into casting. I brows this forum quite often but only post after a *24 hour waiting period [I have posted a few things that I regret lol] I really enjoy reading ICH's and GP100man's comments.

* 24 hours waived on this one:rolleyes:.


Ed

GP100man
July 22, 2010, 06:06 AM
Ed

We`ve all posted summtin at 1 time or another we wish we had`nt , but It`s like takin a test sometimes your first instinct is the best guess:D

& sometimes we just have to stand & take the flames , just so someone learns summtin then it was a good thing ,just learned the hard way & will stay with us !!!!

reloader28
July 22, 2010, 08:33 AM
Another vote to make this a regular forum. For some reason, its very easy to miss at the top of the page. I dont know why, but it is.
If we have a place for SWAT and such, we should have a place for casting.

Shane Tuttle
July 22, 2010, 08:52 AM
It's going to be a tough sell. There were valid arguments on not having it as a forum. If members feel so strongly about wanting it as a forum, it wouldn't hurt to bring it up in the Staff Lounge again.

riverwalker76
July 22, 2010, 09:45 AM
I think it's a good addition to the forum.

riverwalker76
July 22, 2010, 01:10 PM
I was going to add that it might get more exposure as being a Forum instead of a sub-forum. I know I didn't stumble across it until a few weeks ago. I've been posting for awhile, and I didn't even know it existed.

Better exposure in the 'Skunkworks' might bring in more traffic.

TXGunNut
July 22, 2010, 08:31 PM
I guess we could promote it a bit on the other forums when cast bullets come up. I think we're in the right place as long as the folks interested know it's here. We enjoy our little diversion but I don't expect many shooters to understand or be interested.
I'm glad we're here but I don't expect many folks to jump on the bandwagon just because of greater visibility.

Shane Tuttle
July 22, 2010, 09:29 PM
I guess we could promote it a bit on the other forums when cast bullets come up.

If you do this, I caution that it's done in good form. We normally don't like lengthy discussions regarding other boards here. Don't take this in the same context as mentioning another board to find answers or provide other references.

Example of what's perfectly acceptable here:

Bill: "I'm getting ready to cast some bullets. What's the advantages/disadvantages of using aluminum molds?"

Rob: "There's nothing wrong with either. You want to prep the aluminum molds, especially Lee's by (blah, blah, blah). There's a sticky post on www.castboolits.com regarding how to prep them as well."

What's not acceptable is to start a thread up to focus the discussion regarding another board. We just don't think it's good form to do this. To be perfectly clear, we have no say on what's allowed for discussions on other boards and don't want to encourage mentioning the casting subforum here on other boards if they believe it's frowned upon.

I am very pleased that members are getting the most out of the casting forum. Johnny Guest really pulled through for all of us....

riverwalker76
July 22, 2010, 10:49 PM
I guess we could promote it a bit on the other forums when cast bullets come up.

In his defense .... I understood it to mean that when casting your own bullets comes up in another area of The Firing Line ... that we direct them to the 'Bullet Casting' section of the forum. ;)

Shane Tuttle
July 22, 2010, 10:52 PM
Um...well...uh...THAT, too....:o

Al Norris
July 22, 2010, 11:46 PM
LOL!!

I just knew I wasn't the only one to catch that! :D

...Opps! Back to lurking...

GP100man
July 23, 2010, 01:52 AM
I frequent 5 forums fairly regular & as a whole there`s alot of good folks that share an enormous amount of info that helps people that other wise would not have the help & the nudge to start shootin , reloadin, castin & general tinkerin & supporting the shootin industry!

True we have seen a few trolls & people that come just to start trouble !

But as a whole , Good People!!;)

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 23, 2010, 01:06 PM
I sure appreciate all the kind words!!! Of course I CAN NOT take all the credit for being responsible for this subforum. There were a couple other guys involved too.... CrustyFN and Snuffy.

DiscoRacing
July 23, 2010, 01:14 PM
I think I C H outta have a free giveaway for 50 rds of those nice HPs that he has made... Im placing my name in the hat for that giveaway.:D

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 23, 2010, 01:49 PM
Disco, that is a great idea! I knew we kept ya around here for a reason.. :p :D !

Here is what I am willing to do. I am willing to do a free give away of 100 cast hollow points, in .358' or .452"...sized and lubed, or naked. Unfortunately, I am unable to provide gas checks for either size, but can cast them in either plain base or gas check (if you have the gas checks). Disco, you figure out how we are gonna run this contest and PM me with detail and we will do it! Maybe we can make this a monthly contest... to really spike interest in both the subforum AND bullet casting in general!

DiscoRacing
July 23, 2010, 04:47 PM
PM'd Ya on that :D:D

TXGunNut
July 23, 2010, 08:36 PM
I was referring to other areas of this site.:D If someone mentions bullet casting or cast bullets, I think we need to invite him over. I've done the same when someone asks about reloads on the rifle forum. I don't do other forums on a regular basis, only lurk when I do.:)

Shane Tuttle
July 23, 2010, 11:20 PM
Yeah, I was already called on that. :o

No need to rub it in...:p

snuffy
July 24, 2010, 10:25 AM
Well I for one am very happy with how this is coming along. I check it every time I check in on TFL, and that's usually twice a day.

Yes it could be used more. The only way to make it use more is to make it a regular forum. H&R is the only one I visit.

I only reply to a thread where I think I have something to contribute. Based on my 45 years of casting. Sometimes people get miffed at what I say, well it's based on what I learned over the years, and it works for me.

Shane Tuttle
July 24, 2010, 02:36 PM
Sometimes people get miffed at what I say, well it's based on what I learned over the years, and it works for me.

If there's something to learn after 45 years, snuffy it's this. Don't change a dang thing on how you contribute here. You'll probably forget more than we'll ever learn and we need to know everything you're willing to provide.

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 24, 2010, 02:39 PM
If there's something to learn after 45 years, snuffy it's this. Don't change a dang thing on how you contribute here. You'll probably forget more than we'll ever learn and we need to know everything you're willing to provide.

Amen to that!

TXGunNut
July 24, 2010, 03:40 PM
Sorry, Tuttle. Just confirming, clarifying. No intention of rubbing it in.
Where do we sign up for the ICH bullet giveaway? J/K. I like the pics of those hp moulds. Look like little works of art. Pretty amazing designs.

DiscoRacing
July 24, 2010, 03:42 PM
Where do we sign up for the ICH bullet giveaway

You are:D

Shane Tuttle
July 24, 2010, 06:13 PM
Sorry, Tuttle. Just confirming, clarifying. No intention of rubbing it in.

No worries. All in good fun...;)

TXGunNut
July 24, 2010, 07:23 PM
Fun indeed. Wish I'd found you guys a couple of years ago, before I bought my initial casting gear. Guess I did pretty well, lots of cool toys. :D Thanks to you guys and another caster or two I finally jumped in a little while back. Don't think I'll ever have the cool moulds some of you have or the experience snuffy has but I'm having a ball!

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 24, 2010, 09:04 PM
Don't think I'll ever have the cool moulds some of you have or the experience snuffy has but I'm having a ball!

That's all that matters! :D

DiscoRacing
July 24, 2010, 09:29 PM
How can i get one a them hp molds I C H?? What will the damage be??
Would like one for 500 mag and one for 44 mag.:cool:

TXGunNut
July 24, 2010, 10:26 PM
Dunno Disco, I'm pretty thrilled with boring flat point hunting boolits for now. Those moulds are fascinating but way over my head at this point. I'd like to see them working but they're just eye candy for me now.
Translation: I don't think I'm smart enough to make them work and I'm too tight with my money to find out!

DiscoRacing
July 24, 2010, 10:29 PM
Figure I wont have one either... I can always dream tho:( I have a 500 magnum now and dont even have the cash to get set up to load for it...and factory ammo here for it is 70 bucks for 20 rds:eek:I should have looked into ammo prices before I got the silly Idea to get the gun:cool:

DiscoRacing
July 24, 2010, 10:30 PM
Ya might get lucky and win 100 rds tho... there are only 7 contestants so far for this month:cool:

TXGunNut
July 24, 2010, 10:36 PM
Honestly, Disco, what I really wish I had was more range, loading, casting bench time. I have more toys than I have time to play. :( Great stress relief when I make the time for it.:D

DiscoRacing
July 24, 2010, 10:38 PM
HMMM... sounds as if priorities need to be reset..:cool:I MAKE time to shoot...thats all there is to it:eek:

TXGunNut
July 24, 2010, 10:54 PM
I understand, lots of demands on my time last few years. Shooting, loading and casting has kept me (relatively) sane. All three require my undivided attention to do properly. Casting seems so simple but it fascinates me and will take many years to master. Lots of toys and fascinating shiny bits to buy along the way. :D

snuffy
July 25, 2010, 12:04 AM
If there's something to learn after 45 years, snuffy it's this. Don't change a dang thing on how you contribute here. You'll probably forget more than we'll ever learn and we need to know everything you're willing to provide.

Aw, shucks, you're gonna make me blush!:D

I'm always ready to answer any question, but if I don't know, or I'm in a hurry, I may pass. I certainly won't BS anybody or make something up.

Johnny Guest
July 26, 2010, 10:26 AM
Has it really been a year? Darn near. How time flies, et cetera.
I'll point out that it was something of an odyssey, getting a Bullet Casting forum/subforum started in the first place. And, even with agreement that it would be A Good Thang, the precise format and placement in TFL were subject to much discussion. I won't bore y'all with the behind-the-scenes give & take that went on in staff discussions. Suffice it to say that all participlants were sincerely concerned with the proper functioning of TFL as a whole, and it took a lot of discussion to hammer out something that was generally agreeable to all.

I must admit that, in the beginning, I was a bit reticent to strart up a Bullet Casting area. When I became convinced that there was true popular interest in such, and broached the topic to Staff, I at first advocated for an entirely separate forum, as is under discussion currently. After much brotherly --and sisterly -- exchange, I yielded the point, and eventually the subforum was fielded, with appropriate announcements.

I'm happy to say that I'm very pleased with the way the subforum has flourished. It couldn't have done so without the tireless efforts of Tuttle8. He has been there all the times I was absent for one reason or another. We have several really active "regulars" who have contributed vastly to the sum of knowledge in the forum. I started making a list of them for proper recognition, but I fear I'll leave someone out. I believe that ALL the discussion has been totally within the spirit of taking the high road, and I can't recall a single acrimonious exchange. I salute all participlants.

Now, the idea of a separate forum arises again. I don't totally discount the input of those advocates. I simply wonder if the additional effort and possible confusion would ultimately be worthwhile. The technical aspects of altering the board format CAN be overcome, but the question always must be asked, Is the game worth the candle? Frankly, friends, I am a great proponent of the philosophy that, if a mechanism is working well, it likely doesn't need repair. If the matter is important enough to a large enough segment of forum participants, I trust it will resurface for additional consideration.

If you have new input or thoughts on the matter, by all means, raise them with Tuttle8 or me or any other staffer. With such a cordial group as you are, I assure you that no individual's concerns will be ignored.

Very best regards
Johnny

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 26, 2010, 11:41 AM
EXTREMELY-well put Johnny! As far as having the casting forum be a "sub-forum", I still couldn't be happier! I completely agree that "if it is not broken, then don't fix it." I also believe that as a sub-forum, it has a lot of growing to do before being "promoted" to a standard forum in the line-up. Like you said...we will know when that time comes and we will deal with it then.

I would also like to thank EVERYONE who puts so much time into this subforum. You all know who you are!!!! :D

Johnny Guest
July 28, 2010, 09:02 AM
Following extensive pro-and-con strageddy discussions, a change HAS been effected: Handloading and Reloading forum will henceforth be listed as Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting forum. The Bullet Casting area will remain a subforum, so as to avoid mixing up the posts of specialized interest with those who use other types of projectiles.

This change avoids the complications involved in a restructuring of the forum areas. Both Tuttle8 and I heartily endorse the change. The suggestion for and implementation of this alteration was accomplished by the esteemed staff guru Mal H, to whom thanks are due.

Johnny

IllinoisCoyoteHunter
July 28, 2010, 01:02 PM
Thanks Mal H, Johnny, and Tuttle! :D

TXGunNut
July 28, 2010, 09:39 PM
Wow, great idea! Simple, makes sense, no big fuss. I like it!

Win1892
July 30, 2010, 04:11 PM
I read almost every thread even though I don't cast. But I do shoot a lot of lead.