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Fingers McGee
July 14, 2010, 04:57 PM
Just won this one off of GunBroker for $185.00. It's the engraved Hickok Navy:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/PiettaHickok.jpg

Dino.
July 14, 2010, 05:11 PM
WoW! Nice score! :)

Hawg
July 14, 2010, 06:04 PM
I've had my share of luck but DANG!!!!!

I gave almost as much for this .36 police. Supposed to be a Pedersoli but I dunno. Havent gotten it yet.

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m446/MrWoodchuck/DSCF0229.jpg

ClemBert
July 14, 2010, 07:02 PM
Awesome deal! Congrats!!!!!

mykeal
July 14, 2010, 10:08 PM
Both you guys are doing great. Well done Hawg and Fingers.

Fingers McGee
July 14, 2010, 10:31 PM
There's another good deal I've bid on - unfired 1974 vintage Armi San Paolo/Euroarms-Brescia 1851 Sheriffs model in .36 with half fluted cylinder and lanyard ring. From the pictures, the frame is a nice plum color.

robhof
July 14, 2010, 11:20 PM
Sometimes you have to look under the generic areas such as B/p pistol. About 4 yrs ago I picked up a ROA for a steal, because it didn't say Ruger anywhere and the pic's were fuzzy, but I could make out the bird on the grip and bid, I ended up with a practically unfired SS ROA, they also didn't mention it was stainless and the pic's were so bad that you couldn't tell. You got a great deal on an engraved gun.

Slowhand
July 15, 2010, 01:01 AM
A couple of sweet looking old ladies. Congrats to the owners.

madcratebuilder
July 15, 2010, 10:24 AM
I got to spend more time in the black powder section on GB. Ken's cornered the market on Hickok Navies. Hawg, we need a full report on the Pedersoli!!! Looks sweet.

aarondhgraham
July 15, 2010, 11:55 AM
I just got back into shooting last year,,,
I took a 7 year hiatus from everything fun,,,
I decided to go to university and snag a few degrees.

I can't believe the prices that cap & ball revolvers are going for these days,,,
That is until I picked up a Cabela's Catalog and hit a few other websites.

I have two Pietta 1858 Remingtons in .44 caliber,,,
I purchased them from Cabela's back in 1997 for $99.95 each,,,
I was told last week that I can get $150.00 apiece and I laughed out loud.

I went to Cabela's and they are retailing for $269.00

I also have the 1858 Revolving rifle that I paid $199.00 for,,,
Cabela's is now retailing those for a whopping $489.00.

I think I'll clean these puppies up and see what I can get for the lot,,,
I don't want to hassle with black powder anymore,,,
Lotsa fun but way too much trouble.

I'll probably give someone a good deal on a package,,,
I have a few spare cylinders and accessories.

They will come with two absolutely beautiful hand made holsters,,,
As well as a belt for a slender person, pouch, and flask holder.

http://www.aarondgraham.com/craftsman/images/gl-004-44calremington.jpg

I'll post an ad in the proper section of the forum,,,
As soon as I take new pics of everything.

.

ClemBert
July 15, 2010, 01:51 PM
Hey Fingers...I hope you don't mind but I borrowed your new 1851 last night when you weren't guarding the roost. I took this picture of it. I like it soooo much I hope you don't mind if I put a few rounds through it now....hehehehehe.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/SyberTiger/Firearms/Colt%201851/DeadmanBorder2.jpg

Actually, that's the pain in the arse one I bought last year. Yeah, the one with "the issues". Hope you have better luck with yours. I think I've got the issues worked out now but then again.......:mad: At least it looks purdy!

Noz
July 15, 2010, 02:56 PM
What's the hole card?

Hawg
July 15, 2010, 04:59 PM
Thanks guys. Wasn't trying to steal Finger's thunder tho.

MCB I'm not positive it is a Pedersoli. He thinks it is and says it has DAP stamped on it so I am hoping. But there's still a few questions about it that will hopefully be answered tomorrow. Or maybe will just have more questions.

bedbugbilly
July 15, 2010, 05:51 PM
Geeeeze . . . . I hope you guys feel guilty over the good deals you got . . . well . . . maybe for about 2 seconds at least! :D Congrats on your "finds"! They're nice looking shootin' irons! :)

Fingers McGee
July 15, 2010, 06:52 PM
Feel free to shoot it Clembert. I hate breaking in a new pistol anyhow :D

Not even 2 seconds BBB :D:D

Well, you got a couple over on me MCB. Just repaying the favor. :D:D:D

FM

Smokin_Gun
July 15, 2010, 07:06 PM
Good one Fingers nice Hickok Navy... glad I din't see it ... :O)

Smokin_Gun
July 15, 2010, 07:08 PM
Hawg a sweet Rem .36 Pedersoli Condgrads to you ...

mykeal
July 15, 2010, 07:22 PM
If it is a Pedersoli with the DAP mark it's rare. That mark hasn't been used for about 40 some years.

Hawg
July 15, 2010, 07:30 PM
Made in 75

Fingers McGee
July 15, 2010, 10:44 PM
Sweet score Hawg. Let us know how it works when you get it.

FM

Hawg
July 16, 2010, 04:07 PM
Got it today and it is not a Pedersoli. Dunno where he got that from. It was made in 76 and has RG Pioneer Arms on top flat of barrel. It is very well built and the action and timing are very good. The frame has turned a nice plum color. The only fault I can find is the turn line on the cylinder and a few slight scratches also on cylinder. I'm happy with it even if it isn't a Pedersoli.

TomADC
July 16, 2010, 04:26 PM
Great buy, I like the Navies, have a pair of civilian model Pietta's consecutive serial numbered, have yet to shoot them
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL174/1021972/18168454/389392025.jpg

Hawg
July 16, 2010, 05:01 PM
Ok I talked to the guy and he told me where to look. It's under loading lever on barrel next to frame. It does say DAP but it's kinda Stylized. Letters are all made together.

Hawg
July 18, 2010, 09:38 AM
Just got off the phone with bprevolver and he identified it as a Pietta but the R.G. Pioneer Arms is still an unknown.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/36%20Remington/dap.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/36%20Remington/rg.jpg

mykeal
July 18, 2010, 11:14 AM
Yep. That's a double strike FAP.

madcratebuilder
July 19, 2010, 07:13 AM
I concur, double strike FAP, The RG Pioneer Arms is a new name for my list.

hawg, that photo cleared up a mystery revolver for me. I have a 1979 Navy Arms 1858 in nickle with what appears to be a triple strike FAP in the same location.
This 1858 is a very smooth revolver and has a small grip frame.

Hawg
July 19, 2010, 06:53 PM
I mistakenly called mine a police, it's the Navy model. It has a small frame and the action is very nice and tight.

Fingers McGee
July 24, 2010, 11:48 AM
Mailman delivered the Hickok Model today. Looks really good. No marks on the cylinder, no nipple marks on the hammer face, wedge came out with just slightest tap with butt of screwdriver, went back in finger tight. Arbor bottoms out in barrel, action is smooth, timing is good and lockup is tight. Bolt screw was noticeably loose, head stood proud of the frame. Took about a full turn to tighten, trigger and hammer screws were barely loose. Grip frame screws were all tight. Slight blemish in grip wiped off with a little cleaner.

Here are a couple more pictures of it.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0469.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0471.jpg

denster
July 24, 2010, 12:42 PM
Darn you fingers! Now I want one and I don't need another 51 Navy.

Fingers McGee
July 24, 2010, 02:20 PM
:D:D:D:D

denster
July 24, 2010, 04:27 PM
Double darn you Fingers! Checked GB and AA nothing so I went to Cabelas. They have them on sale for $249ea. Now I'm out $500, had to have two, please don't post anything neat and desireable for at least the next couple of weeks:D

Fingers McGee
July 25, 2010, 10:53 PM
please don't post anything neat and desireable for at least the next couple of weeks

I'll try; but, it won't be easy. Something is bound to come up. :D:D

denster
July 30, 2010, 09:14 PM
Got my two Hickock 1851 Navys today on the great brown truck of joy.
Wouldn't have bought them if Fingers hadn't posted pics.
I am really pleased. Exterior finish is flawless and would make you throw rocks at Uberti. No kidding. Timing is spot on with both guns. Haven't had time to tear one down yet but will give a full report when I do. These are a cut way above what I expect from Pietta, way way above. The regular retail is $369 but Cabela had them on sale for $249 and that is a steal.

Fingers McGee
July 30, 2010, 10:49 PM
Good for ya Denster. Be sure to give us a complete report when you test drive them.

I'd take mine out; but it's been to blamed hot here lately to spend any time at the range. Heat index hovers in the 100 to 110 range daily right now.

denster
July 31, 2010, 09:48 PM
Well I took both guns apart today and I continue to be amazed. I'll list what I found in sequence.

1) Wedges came out with a light tap and the spring end is properly beveled in both directions so the wedge goes in and out nicely. Both wedges were perfectly fit. Arbor wedge slot end is properly tapered.
2) Arbor length is right on the money on both guns.
3) B/C gap is .005 on one and .004 on the other.
4) The hammer just kisses the nipple at rest.
5) All of the nipples came out with no problems.
6) On dissasembly all screws came out easily.
7) Bolt fits cylinder slots with a clearance of just at .001.
8) Trigger pulls are smooth but a little long as expected one is 4lb the other 3.6lb.
9)All internals are smooth I couldn't find anything to improve.
10) No burrs present anywhere on the frame.
11) Case colors are more Colt like than anything I have seen from the Italians.
12) Engraving, while I'm sure it is done by machine or laser, is excellent.
13) On the blued surfaces the polish is to a higher degreee than usual and the blue is deeper and richer.
14) Forcing cone is well cut and smooth.

The only detractions I could find on either gun, and this is really picking nits, is I found some very faint polish marks on the barrel of one gun and the faux ivory grips stand very slightly proud of the frame on both guns. However they are otherwise well fitted with no gaps.

Bad news is that the sale is over and Cabela's has them back at $349.

If these are examples of the quality that Pietta intends to produce going forward then Uberti is going to have to get on the ball or run and hide.

Hope for some free time this week to see if they shoot as good as they look.

Fingers McGee
July 31, 2010, 10:43 PM
While I haven't pulled mine down yet, the evaluation of your pair mirrors my evaluation of the one I got. I just wish Pietta would get the grip shape right. They did it for the GWII revolvers, why can't they do it for the Navies?

FM

mykeal
August 1, 2010, 05:25 AM
How about the performance factors: chamber diameters vs groove diameter and bore/chamber alignment, for instance? Getting the cosmetics right is a great start, however. Very good news on the whole.

denster
August 1, 2010, 08:00 AM
Mykeal

Here is the additional info you asked for:

Chamber/bore alignment: No misalignment visible on any chamber on either gun.

Chamber dia: .368/.368
Bore Dia land to land: .362/.3625
Groove dia: .372/.372
Arbor dia: .432/.432
Cylinder Arbor dia .435/.4352

Photo does not depict true case colors due to flash.

mykeal
August 2, 2010, 09:35 PM
Thank you.

I understand from The High Road thread that the chamber/bore alignments are very good to excellent.

denster
August 3, 2010, 11:45 PM
More good news on Pietta. I was preping the revolvers to go shooting later this week. I took the nipples out to put never sieze on them and noticed they looked a bit different. The cones were nice and smooth with no tiny ridges that I'm used to with Pietta and the flash hole looked smaller. Surprise surprise! A "10 CCI cap was a perfect fit and the flash holes measured .029 not the usual .032. I think Tressos are .028 so that is pretty good. Looks like Pietta learned more than one lesson.:D:D:D

Noz
August 4, 2010, 10:55 AM
I picked up an 1860 Army with the Sheriff barrel length (5.5). Previous owner say 50 rounds fired. Certainly no more than that. Excellent condition and $30 less than new. It came with a Ted Cash snail capper, Ted Cash powder funnel, Colt style flask, hard wood loading stand and 5 lbs of FFg.

Yes there are bargains to be found.

By the way, shorty shoots very nicely!

Hardcase
August 4, 2010, 03:58 PM
Doggone it, Denster, I was going to buy one of those next week when I got my $100 Cabela's gift card from my credit card points, but since the sale is over, I guess I'll have to set my sights on something else :(

denster
August 4, 2010, 04:15 PM
Give it a couple of weeks Hardcase and they will run a sale again.

Hardcase
August 5, 2010, 10:18 AM
:D Patience isn't one of my virtues, but I'll hold out for as long as I can!

Hardcase
August 27, 2010, 09:35 PM
Resurrecting this thread - the revolvers are on sale at Cabela's, so I stopped by my local store, where my new best friend Dennis said that one was in stock. Except that it seems to be hiding out somewhere in the back room.

He's going to look for it tomorrow and give me a call. Hopefully I'll be at the range tomorrow afternoon - it's supposed to be beautiful weather, with a high of only 73 degrees - a nice break from 104 yesterday!

denster
August 27, 2010, 10:19 PM
Good luck Hardcase hope they find it for you. If you have some time while you are at Cabela's could you check out some of the other Piettas with the CF (2010) proof codes and see if they show major improvements.
I just got in my third Hickok and it is as nice as the first two I also got in a 1861 Navy but it had the 2009 proofs and while it shows some of the improvements the wedge was really hard to get out and I'm going to have to fit it and there were some minor burs on the frame edges not the same quality as the Hickoks. It was on sale and I can make it nice but if I had paid full price I'd have sent it back.

Hardcase
August 28, 2010, 04:42 PM
Well, I haven't heard from my buddy Dennis, so I have a bad feeling...

I'll swing by tomorrow and see what's up. If nothing else, I'll just have them order one for me. Since I've got that "spend a gazillion bucks, get a gift card" promo, I don't want to mail order it.

I noticed yesterday that they had some fresh C&B guns in the glass case, so I'll take a close look and see if they look as spiffy as they're supposed to.