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kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 17, 2010, 11:41 PM
OK guys, here is my latest creation. I took a 1860 Army 44 Sheriffs barrel and
put it on my 1851 Navy Sheriffs model. I can change either way now. What
do you all think looks the best, Army or Navy? I know I just got too much
time on my hands.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/ArmyvsNavy.jpg

sebou
May 18, 2010, 12:34 AM
hello
that nice, but is it firing with an other caliber yet ? (or maybe the 1851 is on .44 caliber ?)
I guess that not secure to use.
However, who is the brand manufacturer ? I ask you, because i see the frame's screws near to both.
Seb

DustyBottoms
May 18, 2010, 12:36 AM
I've been pondering whether or not this would actually work, myself.
Putting a '60 barrel on a '51 .44 frame.
I admit, it looks good in Photoshop ;)

...But is it plausible?

CajunPowder
May 18, 2010, 01:23 AM
I think the top one looks like something Batman should be carrying in a pre-WWII edition.

RemTim
May 18, 2010, 12:50 PM
IMHO, the bottom version, abso-friggin-lutely!!!

Hawg
May 18, 2010, 12:56 PM
Frames are the same for .44's but the 36's don't have the step required for the larger .44 cylinders.

clang
May 19, 2010, 10:56 AM
Go Army, beat Navy!

Dino.
May 19, 2010, 11:39 AM
+1 for the Army version.

Hardcase
May 19, 2010, 01:06 PM
Go Army, beat Navy!

http://www.fluidlight.com/images/bill_goat.jpg

suzukibruce
May 19, 2010, 03:09 PM
GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY! oh sorry i thought this was a football thread....

surbat6
May 20, 2010, 01:00 PM
Actually, the Army version is a bit closer to an original type (with shortened barrel assembly and grips) of the 19th century. AFAIK, there was never a Navy version with the rebated cylinder from any period manufacturer.
That said, the Army version is really neat!
I'd like to know which one YOU like best, KWHI.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 20, 2010, 01:38 PM
Well. I really like the Army best. But I just can't see paying 125 for the barrel,
Then paying another 50 or so for the loading lever. So, I guess I will be content with just looking at the picture I made.

idaram
May 20, 2010, 02:03 PM
The first 100 of the 1860 Army model were on navy grips. There is a picture of one in the old Colt firearms history book. (the name of the book escapes me at the moment)

Best.....Andy

w_houle
May 20, 2010, 02:05 PM
The top one. Pietta never made an 1860 Civilian (Uberti did), but you can hide the last bit of 1851ness by using a gated conversion cylinder. Ive been kinda wanting to do it for a while, but never got off my lazy...
Oh, and Pietta uses longer cylinders.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 20, 2010, 02:21 PM
I'm sure you know the cylinder in the gun is a 45 Colt 5 shot Howell. The gun
is a Pietta

DustyBottoms
May 20, 2010, 03:07 PM
Well. I really like the Army best. But I just can't see paying 125 for the barrel,
Then paying another 50 or so for the loading lever. So, I guess I will be content with just looking at the picture I made.

You could just buy that Sheriff Cabela's has on sale...

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 20, 2010, 03:42 PM
Yea but. Wife says I got enough now. You think I should ask her if she
ever had enough chocolate????

Hardcase
May 20, 2010, 04:22 PM
Yea but. Wife says I got enough now. You think I should ask her if she ever had enough chocolate????

I would say "fair is fair", but that can turn around and bite you so darn fast...

w_houle
May 21, 2010, 05:09 AM
The gun is a Pietta
Mine likes .45 Colt to be no longer than 1.58"

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 21, 2010, 09:50 AM
Mine too. I found out my Goex Black Dawge 45 Colt ammo will fit OK. So will
the Black Hills Cowboy ammo.

w_houle
May 21, 2010, 11:23 AM
Almost forgot to mention that it's my understanding that you can fit an SAA grip frame onto the 1851/60.
Can you do a Richards conversion with a Kirst?

madcratebuilder
May 21, 2010, 11:50 AM
Army Vs Navy

That's more of a caliber thing than a style. You are comparing pivoting loading lever to a creeping loading lever. Both revolvers are Army caliber, .44.:rolleyes:

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 21, 2010, 11:52 AM
Yes, to the Krist, but with the ring the cylinder is shorter and will not accept
45 Colt. You have to use 45 Scholdfield ammo.

w_houle
May 21, 2010, 01:58 PM
Yes, to the Kirst,
Richards or Richards-Mason?

arcticap
May 23, 2010, 12:06 AM
Considering that the Pietta Navy's front sight is known for causing a very high point of impact due to being too low, I wonder how much closer to the point of aim the Army barrel will shoot to?
The Army sight does look to be a little bit higher.
Does anyone know how high the Pietta Colt Army's generally impact at 25 yards?

olyinaz
May 23, 2010, 04:19 AM
Mine was something like 10" high at 25 yards.

Oly

Rifleman1776
May 23, 2010, 03:54 PM
Whatever floats yer stick is best.
Just don't try to convince a die hard reenactor your frankinsteins are authentic.

Hawg
May 23, 2010, 04:06 PM
Does anyone know how high the Pietta Colt Army's generally impact at 25 yards?

Mine was 6 inches. The newer 58's have taller sights and are closer to dead on but the Colt sights haven't changed.

Higene
May 27, 2010, 01:22 AM
Does anyone make conversion cylinders for an ASM 1860 Sherrif's model?

w_houle
May 27, 2010, 07:48 PM
Does anyone make conversion cylinders for an ASM 1860
I want to say that you would want to use an Uberti cc for it, but don't have an Uberti cylinder, and my Pietta cylinder is a bit too long.