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Northslope Nimrod
March 21, 2010, 12:01 AM
Probably a head horse but here goes:

I gave up on my search for a .308 battle rifle. They are all so stinkin' heavy. I was hoping to use it for hunting as well.

SO, now I"m looking for an AR-15 in 223 with these criteria:

1. $1000 or under
2. M4 style
3. light weight
4. Would like to have open sights (i mean aperture) (perhaps flip up sights)(Edited to say: I plan to scope it so I have option of optics or aperture)
5. Accurate (otherwise I would consider a Mini or Kel-Tec but I have not been convinced that they are accurate enough for my liking)
6. Chrome lined barrel

Also Which should I avoid?

Edited to add: Oops. I meant that I plan to scope it. NOT, that it come with a scope for under $1000. Also, flip up aperture sights would be what I want, not open like I said.

.308shooter
March 21, 2010, 01:16 AM
If you are looking for an ar and a scope for under 1k, good luck dude. You can pick up a decent ar for 1k. Personaly I would start looking rockriver arms. One of the big things I look for when buying a new ar is; is the carrier key staked properly. The rockriver arms ar's that I have seen look good. One that I wold stay away from is dpms. The key in their .308 staked good but for some reason in the ar 15 its hit and miss.

Lavid2002
March 21, 2010, 01:43 AM
Why do you want open sights? Aperture is proven to be quicker, and more accurate against open sights.

Go with DPMS....

Ridge_Runner_5
March 21, 2010, 03:00 AM
CMMG bargain bin carbine is $600 I think, and then all you need is mags, a rear sight and your optic of choice.

Pick up a Bushnell Holosight for ~$300 used, and a Pmag or two for $15 a piece, still leaves you with $70-85 for a rear sight.

RT
March 21, 2010, 07:52 AM
Maybe a DD XV carbine or a S&W M&P MOE
You could always buy a complete lower and then order a complete upper from Bravo Company
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Upper-Receiver-Groups-s/1.htm
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=81102X&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3D%26searchstart%3D9%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html%26category%3DSMWE

rjrivero
March 21, 2010, 08:02 AM
www.cdnninvestments.com had a couple AR-s at really good prices in addition to the CMMG bargain bin.

Nemsis
March 21, 2010, 02:39 PM
since you want a .308 and plan on using the AR for hunting I would get a Stag model 5 it's not heavy and 6.8 can take a lot of game down.

http://www.stagarms.com/product_info.php?cPath=13_22&products_id=210

kristop64089
March 21, 2010, 03:21 PM
Daniel Defense DDXV.
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=149
One of the best things about DD is, everything but the furniture, is built in house.
They do not Assemble guns, they build them from scratch. Then they test many of the components, as well as PROPERLY assemble them.

Aim Surplus has 3, at $999/rifle.

These aren't cheap, but easily one of the best factory built rifles available.

goldfacade
March 21, 2010, 06:24 PM
Spikes

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=59

TRguy
March 21, 2010, 07:40 PM
STAG

Madpipe
March 22, 2010, 11:23 PM
Quentin Defense 16" Carbine made in house look it up www.quentindefense.com