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olyinaz
December 24, 2009, 01:41 AM
Can someone tell me what the going rate for these things is? All numbers matching, a lot of blue left but still a '40 byf Mauser and it shows a good deal of wear. HAER marked (Army). No proofs ground off (all dirty birds present). Bore is excellent, muzzle looks near perfect.

Would $1000 be way too high? Seems like I recall them going for more like $600-800 depending on condition. It's for a gift and they're not hanging on trees so I don't mind paying top dollar but I don't want to get really abused.

Thanks,
Oly

Tamara
December 24, 2009, 07:33 AM
Standard Catalog of Military Firearms, 5th Ed. claims FAIR: $250, GOOD: $400, V.G.: $550, EXC: $700.

Of course, modify that by how often you run across one... I don't know that I'd go a grand, but I'd definitely be willing to pay towards the high end of the above scale for most any decent shooter.

eastbank
December 24, 2009, 07:57 AM
i have a ex con norwegian 3006 also a army issue and i would not sell mine for 1000.00, what rifles are here is all thats comming and i looked long and hard to find one in any shape and lucked into this one. eastbank.

Shotgunaholic
December 24, 2009, 08:50 AM
30-06? Not a 8mm? Tell me more.

Attached is the M98 my father brought home. It is a DOT 43. All numbers match. The bayo and scabbard match each other also.

Tamara
December 24, 2009, 09:30 AM
30-06? Not a 8mm? Tell me more.

Norway came into possession of a buttload of 98k's when the Jerries went back to Deutschland after WWII. Since the Norwegian army was being reequipped along American lines, with foreign-aid Garands and suchlike, the Mausers were re-barreled to '06 and used for support troops, reservists, and REMFs for a few years, until they had enough new stuff to gear everybody up.

It's one of a few Mauser 98-type weapons in .30-'06; I have a Brazilian Itajuba-manufactured M1908/34 that looks for all the world like a kar.98k, but is chambered in .30-'06.

eastbank
December 24, 2009, 09:49 AM
shotgunaholic, very nice 98 mauser, keep it or better yet send it to me for safe storage. 98,s are nice. here is one i realy like a AX 41 all matching in ex con. eastbank.

simonkenton
December 24, 2009, 11:31 AM
Buy it!

I would love to have a Norweigan Mauser in 30-06!

James K
December 24, 2009, 04:56 PM
FWIW, the Belgian Model 1950 made by FN is chambered for the .30-'06 and the clip guide is made for the M1903 clip. A bunch of those in brand new, unissued condition were imported years ago.

Jim

Tom2
December 24, 2009, 09:25 PM
I had one of those in excellent condition, once. Two changes, barrel is replaced with a basically identical contour barrel in 30.06 and there is a clearance cut in the receiver to allow for loading. Lots of them in date codes not often seen by people that buy vet bringbacks as many were like 41's etc. I certainly did not pay anything near 1K and now I wish I kept it if it is worth that. It apparently saw little or no use after conversion and the bore was mint. Still despite the caliber change, it had that nasty little steel cup buttplate that seemed to amplify recoil for me. I hate those things and the bruises I got. That was summer shooting with little clothing to soak it up. No gray wool greatcoat to pad me.

eastbank
December 25, 2009, 08:00 AM
for a all matching 98 german mauser in ex con. i would pay 1000.00 and if it were a sniper with matching scope or a 98/33-40 mountian carbine a whole lot more. the key is condition and all matching number and not fiddled with. as a young man i destroyed many fine surplus rifles not knowing any better and being able to buy them cheap,thinging they would be advailable for ever. hell i though i would live forever. eastbank. ps here is a rare swede model 38 made in 1944 that i lucked into at a public auction on labor day.

kilimanjaro
December 25, 2009, 01:15 PM
The Germans had about 30,000 troops in Norway in 1945, plus whatever spare weapons were in the supply tail, so considering that some were undoubtedly destroyed by some units at surrender, there are not a lot of these available, probably no more than 30,000. When they came on the market about 15 years ago they did not last long.

olyinaz
December 26, 2009, 01:04 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

Best,
Oly

olyinaz
December 26, 2009, 01:07 AM
And let me add that there are some beautiful Mausers in this thread! That war bring-back one fella posted is simply stunning - DO NOT SELL IT! And if you do, please sell it to me. :D

But really all of the example is the thread are nice - thanks folks.

Oly

Shotgunaholic
December 26, 2009, 09:52 AM
Olyinaz & Eastbank,
Thanks for the nice comments and your offers, but it will probably go to my grandson.

olyinaz
December 26, 2009, 12:05 PM
Yes, that's a grandson kind of prize if ever there were one. :)

Well, I pulled the trigger on the Norwegian Mauser for my pops. He's 100% Norwegian and was excited to hear about it and yep, he wants to give it to his grandsons (my boys). It wasn't a great deal or a bargain or anything but he's less concerned with that vs. it being simply a nice example. One never knows about these things but the pictures make it look wonderful so we're very hopeful it will be.

Thanks again guys,
Oly

UltimaThule
December 26, 2009, 02:44 PM
The Germans had about 30,000 troops in Norway in 1945, plus whatever spare weapons were in the supply tail, so considering that some were undoubtedly destroyed by some units at surrender, there are not a lot of these available, probably no more than 30,000. When they came on the market about 15 years ago they did not last long.30,000??? They would have been outnumbered nearly two to one by the resistance...

The Germans had 400,000 troops in Norway in early 1945, but some of those were sent back to defend Germany in the last weeks of the war. If memory serves, 385,000 German troops surrendered in Norway in May, plus nearly 100,000 non military Germans such as secretaries, bureaucrats, SS, Gestapo etc.

I doubt many weapons were destroyed, the surrender was well organized. So several hundred thousand of these rifles ended up in Norwegain hands, and that's where most of them still are. Heck, I have a half dozen here in the room with me as I type this. A huge buttload were rebuilt with heavy match barrels and target aperture sights and sold through the Norwegian National Rifle Association for competition use.

The rifles that hit the market 15-ish years ago came from the last batch collecting dust in military stores, 20-25,000 rifles. I'm guessing most of those are still in the country too, which is why they are "rare" outside of Norway. I think the price here is still less than $200. :)

eastbank
December 26, 2009, 04:15 PM
i heard that the norwegian government destoryed quite a few of them. and what was here was it. eastbank.

UltimaThule
December 26, 2009, 07:42 PM
eastbank, not one single rifle destroyed as far as I know. Whoever told you that was wrong.

That said, you're not going to see any more of those particular rifles in the US unless they are imported one, or a few, at the time. The government is all sold out. They just happened to sell almost all of them domestically, a few thousand at the time, spread out over decades. Hey, there are more than four million people in this country - a few hundred thousand rifles will only go so far...

olyinaz
December 27, 2009, 03:32 AM
Hey, there are more than four million people in this country - a few hundred thousand rifles will only go so far...

Hey, there are more than four million people in Phoenix! Thank God I live down in Tucson where we have a few hundred thousand rifles. :D

Tak for the info!

Ole

eastbank
December 27, 2009, 08:12 AM
ultimathule, i read about the green party destroying the 98,s on line ,i think the poster was from norway. i,m glad it was not true so some one can still enjoy these rifles. i looked for one here and finely found one at a gun show, i was walking past a display when i saw the ground reciever(if the display rack would have been turned around i would not have noticed it) i picked it up right away and kept in my hands untill i got the owner and bought it. eastbank.

kilimanjaro
December 27, 2009, 06:04 PM
I stand corrected on 30,000 vs. 300,000 Wehrmacht troops in Norway in 1945, I'll type slower next time....still, these are not common rifles and when available, should be snapped up by the discerning collector. They were about $250 in 1990'ish, now nearly triple in nice condition.

The Russian Capture '98s, with all the mismatched parts, refinishing, etc., are the same bargain today.

dogolden
February 18, 2010, 10:28 PM
My mother is from Oslo so pretty much I have been searching for Norwegian Mausers for many years. I have only seen 3 of them in person and I owned 2 of them. I sold my 'spare' Norwegian k98 last weekend at a gunshow. I'm guessing a decent Norwegian k98 should go for $500-$1000 depending on condition!

olyinaz
February 19, 2010, 12:25 PM
Thanks again for the info guys.

My dad is 100% Norwegian from South Dakota/Minnesota and he wanted it no matter the price so we bought it. Paid too much perhaps but as another said in the thread how often do you see them? To heck with it, life is short, my dad is old, and he wanted it - done deal. :o

Just scored a Norwegian Krag 6.5mm with Nazi occupation waffenamts and eagles as well. Paid far too much for it as well I'm sure but read above again if necessary.

My Dad, my boys and I will all be out shooting them soon and THAT is what it's all about.

Best,
Oly

phantom06
June 10, 2010, 07:41 PM
Greetings all:
Thanks to those who posted info on the Norwegian 98K's. I've had mine for close to 25 years and was never aware of much beyond the fact they were re-issued by Norway. Between this site and a few others, I've been able to figure out quite a bit about my particular gun.

Mine is a 1937 S/42 (Mauser produced). As discussed, the original Wehrmacht number is marked out (mine by way of dashes through the original sn). The HAER stamp and new number sitting right above the original number. My rifle appears to have retained almost all the original parts, including the rear sight -- which another site stated were often not kept with their original rifles. The stock doesn't appear to have been messed with at all

I've not had much opportunity to shoot mine in a very long time (probably about 20 years) and I don't think I fired more than a box through it since I've had it. As I recall, it kicks pretty good!

Anyway, sorry to drag this thread up but wanted to say thanks to those who posted info. I'm not getting any younger and time is coming when it will be time to sell her off. It's nice to know these fine rifles have a loyal following.

olyinaz
June 11, 2010, 03:37 PM
Yes, they do!

Mine kicks like a mule with .30-06 ammo as well but it also shoots really well with the nearly new Norwegian barrel.

They seem to pop up on Gunbroker fairly regularly but not always in great shape. There's one on there now that's very mismatched and also import stamped and, as such, I'm not interested in it but the price has been coming down.

Let us know when it's time to sell it!

Best,
Oly

phantom06
June 11, 2010, 04:04 PM
Hi Oly,
Probably within the next year or so, the rifles will start to go. Looking to trade down into a smaller house and reduce the amount of stuff I have. Depressing to think about but what can you really say when your rifles have sat idle for over 20 years? The 98K is my favorite. It even smells like a vintage military rifle should!

The others are an M1 Garand, G.33/40 (mismatched bolt, etc, although a complete and correct 1940 945 rifle), and lastly my CAR-15 which I bought new in 1981.

phantom06
October 16, 2011, 11:47 AM
Gents,
The dreaded day has arrived. Time to part with my 98K. Recommended venue?

TX Hunter
October 16, 2011, 05:44 PM
Could you post a picture of it please?

BlueTrain
October 17, 2011, 05:55 AM
Another curious twist of history here is that the Norwegian Army was equipped with .45 ACP pistols at the beginning of the war and of course lost them along with the war. After the war they were equipped with leftover German pistols--Lugers. Original holsters were modified by adding the wire hangers so they could be used with American style web pistol belts.

BrunoNorway
November 8, 2011, 08:31 PM
The Norwegian Mausers are everywhere here... Because they are not original
and because they are so plentyfull they are not worth much..
You can get one for 90-200 USD with 200 being expensive.
The cheapest one i have seen went for 70 USD or something.
Ironically you must pay 75-150 USD in firearms application fees to get a hold of the rifle.

A lot of thees Mausers have over the years been modified to become hunting-rifles.
Before Norway found oil in the 70's, we were a poor nation and the Mauser
was a good and inexpensive rifle for the common man. The hunting-mausers
go for 250 to 500 USD. In later years, The Mauser action is often used as a
basis for cheep semi-longrange rifle rigs or as cheep alternatives for young
and unestablished people.

The Norwegian National Rail Administration actually used Mauser in their
trains. Each train had a Mauser and each driver had a his personal bolt.
The purpose of this was to put down any wildlife they hit and minimizing the
animals sufferings. All these rifles and bolts had to be fitted to each other
though. Not a easy job i think.



In the end there is nothing who has helped Norwegian hunting and shooting
traditions as the nazies leaving their Mausers for us.

Because of the good quality and precision in the action the Mausers in
Norway will have a long and wonderful life.

In Norway, Mauser is a household name.:D