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Flyingbrickracing
December 21, 2009, 09:53 PM
I'm looking for info on my No4 Mk1.

It has a 1/49 date of manufacture and the ser. num. it PF73XXX,

From my research (I may be wrong on this) it was made at ROF Fazakerley Lankashire ( code "F" )

It has crossed flags Inspection mark ( looks like S Africa.but has no letter designation in the mark)

It has a "U" with a downward pointing arrow in it.

Thank you for any help you can give.

the pic is of the "U" on top of the reciever,I can provide pics of other marks if needed.

This is a very interesting rifle (to me) and would like to know more about it.

golfnutrlv
December 22, 2009, 02:24 AM
Enfield serial numbers are a tough business. Unlike the US Military in WWII Era, the Brits gave each company a serial number range, and then just told them to start over when they ran out. So, you can potentially have x number of no 4 mk I's with the same serial for example.

To be an authentic Enfiled, the markings and serial number need to match on the bolt, reciever, and barrel (located under top handguard).

Looks like you have done some of the initial identification, I am not as familiar with the Fazerkly rifles, but it should have a year of manufacture on the reciever.

Hopefully this gets you started, its a great rifle, real shooter.

Reply or PM is another question comes to mind!!

Flyingbrickracing
December 22, 2009, 06:27 PM
Thanks for the reply,

It has a 1/49 date of manufacture and all the numbers match as well.

I did a little more digging and it seems it was made for South Africa.

According to a website I found the downward arrow is the same as an upward pointing arrow,just nobody knows why it points down.

Another thing that I am curious about is that it was painted and had no bluing at all.

golfnutrlv
December 22, 2009, 07:33 PM
Here is a website I have used to identify my Enfield info:
http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/gh.htm

Read through the different markings, and info. Should help you shed a little light on your rifle. Note the arrow marking is the symbol the British put on the rifle to say that it had passed inspection for service.

Lots of good info on this sight. Take a look around, bounce any more questions off me if necessary.

on the blueing, do you mean the barrel seems to be painted? That's one I have not heard of before, might have been done at some point by another owner if there was one.

Since the numbers all match, you have an authentic Enfield! That's a rare thing indeed. Tough to find them all in one piece anymore.

Enjoy!!

golfnutrlv
December 22, 2009, 07:43 PM
Here is another one, moderated by Tikirocker, who is a member here as well.

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=27

Flyingbrickracing
December 26, 2009, 06:59 PM
I've looked at those sites and that is where I found some of my info,I'm now looking for a book on the subject to help me research this and other misurp rifles.

limpetmine
January 1, 2010, 02:50 PM
Google Ian Skinnerton and the Lee Enfield Story. 3D edition is out, and is the final edition. A great book. a must have.

gyvel
January 2, 2010, 01:33 PM
"U" markings that contain the broad arrow denote issue to the former Union of South Africa.