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nukeantz
December 18, 2009, 02:59 PM
Can anybody tell me anything about this derringer? I saw similar ones people were saying were colt. The only markings on it are serial # 552 under where the grip should be, and the top of the barrel has some writing on it but it is very worn and hard to read I can make out CT on the end of the second line.
Ant help would be appreciated.

Ken

RJay
December 18, 2009, 05:04 PM
In 1980's colt marketed a No# 4 Derringer in 22 Short. Thes were not made by Colt but a firm called Butler. These were dropped after a couple of years and Butler continued to manufacture them under the name Butler. In excellent condition value is rather low for either. The one shown, maybe 20 for parts, maybe less.

nukeantz
December 18, 2009, 05:21 PM
The ones that you are talking about had the manufacture stamped on the side of the gun. This one has info stamped on the top of the barrel, and also the other guns had a letter after the serial number, this one does not (as seen in the picture). This was one of the guns my dad had for years and I remember it when I was very young growing up(I am 52 now) and even then it looked old and in bad condition. He said it was called a garter derringer, I just wondered about the history.

Ken

Dragon55
December 18, 2009, 05:50 PM
I have one of those. Mine still has the grips. It is a Butler as RJay sed.

It will actually shoot maybe 50% of the time.

Bill DeShivs
December 18, 2009, 07:47 PM
The gun pictured is neither a Butler or a Colt.
I would have to do some research as to what it actually is.

Dragon55
December 18, 2009, 07:56 PM
OK.... well mine is shaped exactly the same and has all the hardware in what appears to be the exact same places ..... and oh yeah it has BUTLER on the top of the barrel.

nukeantz
December 18, 2009, 10:37 PM
Bill,

I do not think it is a butler either, if you find anything about it I would really appreciate it. I know it looks like a butler/colt but I do not think it is. I think it is much older.


To the guy that has a butler, what is the serial number on yours and where is it located and does it have a letter in the number? Can you post a picture of it?

Thanks,
Ken

Bill DeShivs
December 18, 2009, 11:50 PM
The general shape of most single derringers is similar. This barrel is NOT shaped like a Butler/Colt, nor does the Colt have a button on the bottom of the frame.

Bill DeShivs
December 19, 2009, 04:28 AM
Your derringer is a Marlin, made in Norwich, CT.

Tidewater_Kid
December 19, 2009, 03:02 PM
I think Bill nailed it!

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=13877

Sure looks like the one at Simpson's.

TK

nukeantz
December 19, 2009, 04:18 PM
Bill,

Thank you

Ken

Bill DeShivs
December 19, 2009, 07:19 PM
You're very welcome!
Perhaps Dragon should look at your picture and then at his gun again. Maybe he will see the differences. ;)

Winchester_73
December 19, 2009, 11:58 PM
I actually thought it was a marlin but I wasn't sure so I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to mislead anyone.

Millbilly
December 21, 2009, 09:52 PM
It looks like a Marlin to me I have one just like it in 30 short rimfire......mine is a Marlin OK....

nukeantz
January 2, 2010, 07:09 PM
Would anyone have any idea where I might be able to buy a set of grips for my marlin derringer?

Thanks,
Ken

James K
January 2, 2010, 08:09 PM
I know of no source for grips, but those are simple and should be easy to make. As incompetent as I am at wood working, I once managed to make a set of grips for a derringer (not a Marlin) and they turned out pretty well. You can buy the screw and ferrule set from www.gungrip.com .

Jim

nukeantz
January 3, 2010, 04:54 PM
Jim,

Thanks, I'll give it a try

Ken