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Drummer101
December 6, 2009, 06:28 PM
I have been looking around and I think I found a good deal.

Here is the link:
http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/Mosin_Nagant.html

The questions I have are:

Is this a reputable site?

Is it a good deal?

Will the ammo still be available down the road or is it one of those dieing calibers (I dont reload)? The ammo I found is here http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/440-rds-762x54r-147-gr-fmj-ammo-1-tin.aspx?a=555116


I would like to expect it to be 3 moa and shoot out of the box.

Carryabigstick
December 6, 2009, 06:33 PM
I know nothing about the site. However, that price looks fair. Of course you have to pay shipping and a transfer fee. I would figure out what it's gonna cost online and take that price to a local gun shop to see if they can beat it. I know it's only the difference in a few bucks but it wont take you any longer than going online.

Drummer101
December 6, 2009, 06:39 PM
Well I guess under $90 is a decent price, the thing I am worried about is my credit card number and the quality of the gun (as in even able to be shot).

I can have a look around the gun shops when I go home next week.

voodoo54
December 6, 2009, 07:16 PM
The 7.62x54R is not a dying round, unlike some other types, such as the .303 British. It is still widely used in many countries around the world. The Dragunov sniper rifle and the PKM light machine gun use the 7.62x54R and are still used very heavily around the world. So surplus ammo should be around for a very long time.

voodoo54
December 6, 2009, 07:19 PM
Also ammoman.com and ammunitiontogo.com sell surplus and new 7.62x54R.

Drummer101
December 7, 2009, 03:30 PM
Ok, my goal is to get a Mosin Nagant carbine before Christmas, I go home on Friday and I will be able to go around to the gun stores at that time (Fleet Farm, Wallmart, and hopefully Cabelas (really long drive)).

What particular models should I look for (I am going for shoot ability not collector)? I am looking for the carbine version for under $100. I am looking at these but I have no idea which is best and are there any missing from the list.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM.htm

From what I have read the bolt and receiver have to have matching numbers otherwise it gets sticky.

chow chow
December 7, 2009, 04:38 PM
Almost all of the cheap M 44s are drying up for some reason. They are just that good ! Maybe some dealers has them in stock waiting for the day to come and sellling them for more.

The longer M 91/30s are still around and plentiful.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
December 7, 2009, 07:29 PM
I'm just glad I got mine before the crazy just got rediculous...
I can say the same about my K31 as well.:cool:

raftman
December 7, 2009, 07:31 PM
Dunno about the reputation of that site, but that is indeed a pretty good price for an M44 these days, especially if you're talking about that $79 sale price they got, but even $99 isn't a bad price for one. $79 used to be a pretty common price a few years ago, M44's would go on sale at Big 5 for that amount all the time. These days, when Big 5 has them, they sell for $180.

chow chow
December 7, 2009, 08:01 PM
If ever u find a M 44 or M 38 with a tight bore in a gunshow, grab it quick. I m sure u will not be disappointed. If anything below $ 150 on these carbine rifles are considered very good deals nowadays. DOnt wait.

Drummer101
December 7, 2009, 08:59 PM
I am in Minnesota and there is not Big 5 close by :o

voodoo54
December 7, 2009, 09:53 PM
floridagunworks.com is selling M44s for $119.00 right now. You won't be able to inspect the weapon but that's the cheapest I've seen M44s in awhile. I went to a gun show near Baton Rouge recently and the two M44s there were going for $250.00 and they were pretty rough looking.

rallyhound
December 7, 2009, 09:55 PM
Good price but shows out of stock

Dill
December 7, 2009, 10:02 PM
not sure where in MN you are, but the Mills Fleet Farm in Blaine had 6 or 7 Mosin's in their cabinet when I was in there a few days ago.

Drummer101
December 7, 2009, 10:17 PM
I live in the Twin Cities so I am pretty close (but currently at college till Friday).

Did you get a chance to see the quality of the guns or the price?

noyes
December 8, 2009, 01:03 AM
try Todd

http://www.familyfirearmsandfinishes.com/rifles.html

He's on the http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/

chris in va
December 8, 2009, 08:27 AM
3 MOA? Nah. Maybe with a really good 91/30. I have an M38 and it's minute of man, mostly just a range toy/flamethrower.

Honestly unless you just NEED to have a heavy bayonet/mount on your short carbine, I'd skip the M44 and get an M38. Lighter, easier to handle. Otherwise get the 91/30.

Drummer101
December 14, 2009, 03:11 PM
Ok, I was able to go down to Fleet Farm and handle a M38, M44 and a 91/30.

The M44 was about $160 and the 91/30 was $85. Only one gun in the case had a matching number on the bolt and receiver.

But after seeing that the 91/30 was not that much bigger than the M44 and the price is so much lower I am going to start to look around for a 91/30.

But I will admit the M44 is much better looking.

Does anyone know a good ffl in the Twin Cities area? It looks like I am going to have to order online.

MYSTERT85
December 15, 2009, 10:25 AM
The Mosin is one of the best guns you will ever own you can get 1200rnds for around 300 if you know where to look.

Drummer101
December 15, 2009, 10:34 AM
I found where I am going to buy a 91/30, now all I have to do is sell my air rifle :D

It is going to be about,

$110-$120 for the rifle and accessories (sling, bayonet, cleaning rod and such)
$22 to ship
$10-$20 for ffl transfer
$20-$40 for a case
$10 in cleaning stuff
I am going to get about 25-50 rounds local at a high price to make sure it works and then mass order cheaper stuff.

L_Killkenny
December 15, 2009, 10:53 AM
Sounds like robbery. IMO of coarse.

LK

Drummer101
December 15, 2009, 10:55 AM
But this was it is guaranteed matching parts.

If there is a better deal let me know.

L_Killkenny
December 15, 2009, 11:37 AM
You're gonna pay upwards of $160 for a gun that you can buy down at Fleet Farm or $85? Both guns are clubs that go bang, matching numbers or not. I'll admit I have a personal dislike for the Mosins but it's hard to argue with getting a gun that goes bang for less than $100. But in no way are they worth more than that.

Want a better deal on a better gun? Save you pennies and buy a Stevens 200. Or about any used sporting centerfire rifle you can find for that matter.

Heck you can find used Marlin 336's for $200 with a little looking and it's 10 times the gun.

LK

Drummer101
December 15, 2009, 11:50 AM
The Fleet farm ones were solid as is and were not very good condition and looked pieced together with odds and ends.

The ones I found are from this site.

http://www.familyfirearmsandfinishes.com/rifles.html