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p99guy
November 30, 2009, 02:16 PM
Mine would be my 1916 vintage Enfield No1 MkIII* BSA...


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pesta2
November 30, 2009, 03:04 PM
I think it might be my 1886 Portuguese Kropatschek

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35200&d=1219241732

mavracer
November 30, 2009, 03:16 PM
1896 Krag made in 1898

simonkenton
November 30, 2009, 03:48 PM
Turkish Mauser M93 made in 1896.

Hardcase
November 30, 2009, 04:45 PM
1862 Springfield made by LG&Y.

http://www.fluidlight.com/images/guns/GHDunn_1861_Special_1.jpg

Carried by great-great-grandpa in the War of the Rebellion and still good for its annual Independence Day volley!

tater134
November 30, 2009, 05:18 PM
I have a bunch of pre 1900 surplus rifles but my oldest is my 1886 Kropatschek.

Chris_B
November 30, 2009, 05:33 PM
I only got the one rifle....1944. My oldest firearm is a 1920 Colt

junkmanted
November 30, 2009, 07:00 PM
how about pistols ?
all matching numbers 1916 Luger

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w52/junkmanted/100_0696.jpg

James K
November 30, 2009, 08:14 PM
Model 1816 Harpers Ferry. Shoots OK for a smooth bore.

Jim

Tidewater_Kid
November 30, 2009, 09:13 PM
Mine is a Steyr 1888 Commission rifle made in 1894.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~acook/photo/1888-assembled.jpg

TK

collector rob
December 1, 2009, 06:44 PM
1884 Trapdoor

Wleoff
December 1, 2009, 07:15 PM
1853 Enfield, 1879 Remington Rolling Block (not pictured) and then the 1884 Springfield Trapdoor.

http://s416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/wleoff/18841853CU.jpg

Flipper 56
December 1, 2009, 07:31 PM
1901 M-96 Swedish Mauser
1898 Vest Pocket H & R in 32 S&W

ksstargazer
December 1, 2009, 09:57 PM
1891 dated 88 Commission rifle.
1895 Finn stamped M1891 Mosin.
I shoot both of them regularly.

the rifleer
December 1, 2009, 11:58 PM
a 1935 swiss k31. other than some minor bluing removal, it is in outstanding shape.

BigPapa4147
December 2, 2009, 12:13 AM
A 1938 M-91/30 Mosin-Nagant

Stnwll
December 2, 2009, 12:26 AM
1891 Argentine Mauser.

Also have a 88 Commission rifle but it was Turked in the 30's.

cougar gt-e
December 2, 2009, 12:34 AM
Whitney 1798 (Type III) Musket - converted to percussion after the military sold it - probably in the 1830-1840's.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/john_bud/muzzleloader/ml1.jpg

smleno1mkIII
December 2, 2009, 12:36 AM
a 1927 built no1 mkIII indian ishapore enfield used to have a p17 enfield and a 1903 turk mauser that was rebarrled to 8mm in 1954 making it into an m38.

smleno1mkIII
December 2, 2009, 12:38 AM
a 1927 built no1 mkIII indian ishapore grenade launching enfield used to have a p17 enfield and a 1903 turk mauser that was rebarrled to 8mm in 1954 making it into an m38. oops sorry for the double post

B. Lahey
December 2, 2009, 03:50 AM
Amoskeag Special Model of 1861, a treasured family relic.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/brendanclaude/riflemusket7.jpg

F. Guffey
December 2, 2009, 08:28 AM
1847 J. E. Willis

1864 58 cal Burnside

F. Guffey

Shorthair
December 2, 2009, 06:05 PM
1909 Argentine Mauser, all matching numbers.

rr2241tx
December 2, 2009, 06:42 PM
1863 Sharps Saddle Ring Carbine. Sorry, no photo.

vetteracer92
December 3, 2009, 04:34 PM
Just an old Westinghouse 7.62x54R (not sure of the date) then it would be a K-31 swiss.

gyvel
December 3, 2009, 04:46 PM
1874 Springfield Sharps 2 band 50-70

darkgael
December 3, 2009, 05:58 PM
A Trapdoor Carbine - about 1873-1875. Not sure.
Or...a Mk.IV Martini-Henry 577-450 from about the same period, maybe 1877.
Pete

SIGSHR
December 4, 2009, 04:38 PM
M1884 Trapdoor made in 1890.

madcratebuilder
December 5, 2009, 07:03 PM
I don't have that many, only seven but I would say my k31 is the best made and shoots the best. My No4MkII Enfield would be best in overall condition.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/k3102.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/ForSale008Medium.jpg

gandog56
December 5, 2009, 07:33 PM
My New England Westinghouse Mosin Nagant. Probably made in 1916-1917.

Ignition Override
December 6, 2009, 08:16 PM
The 1942 LE #4/1.

madcratebuilder:
Your rifle is a foxy babe, and the collection of additional parts makes a nice photo.
A guy near here named Phil who has a very small gun shop might still be asking about $699 for a near-mint Longbranch from the late 40's or 50's, which looks (from what I can see) exactly like yours.

viale_109
December 29, 2009, 05:30 PM
A Swiss Model 1911 manufactured in 1916.

bcarver
December 29, 2009, 06:20 PM
made about november 1944.

Tamara
December 29, 2009, 06:46 PM
My French Gras Mle. 1874 M80 was made in 1876.

RonC
December 29, 2009, 11:55 PM
An 1884 Springfield Trapdoor made in 1887 with original bayonet. non-shootable:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4083/springfield1873cropsmdl5.jpg

1887 Martini_Henry Mk IV:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3007/martinihenry1887rcmodcr.jpg

Ron

kwells6
December 30, 2009, 12:27 AM
1913 BSA Enfield

Mike Irwin
December 30, 2009, 12:33 AM
French Mle 1873 revolver, dated 1876.

Swampghost
December 30, 2009, 12:55 AM
Just some 1873 Trapdoors. I just cleared house on some old musket conversions.

Crankylove
December 30, 2009, 12:55 AM
1946 Mosin Nagant rifle. Not old compared to some weapons in this thread, but the oldest I have.

Jimro
January 3, 2010, 02:30 AM
I have a 1906 Obendorf Gew98 barreled action the previous owner had installed a Williams receiver sight on... The barrel has the "S" marking to identify it as the "new" .323 bore.

So the oldest pristine milsurp is a 1934 m28/30 Finn.

Jimro

muddinman_04
January 3, 2010, 10:47 AM
Surplus:
1809 Prussian Musket (sorry no pics). Interesting piece though. It has markings on the butt indicative of American Indian carvings.

1873 Trapdoor Carbine
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q317/muddinman04/100_1345.jpg?t=1262533428

Commercial:
1865 Spencer Carbine:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q317/muddinman04/100_1369.jpg?t=1262533537

skydiver3346
January 3, 2010, 10:58 AM
Original Civil War era Remington (1863) .58 caliber rifle. I believe it is a Zouve model, (was told by expert). I have had it for many years and was passed down through our family since back in the '30's.

Uncle Billy
January 3, 2010, 12:42 PM
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc341/sigmapisigma/carbinemusket.jpg

1773 (as best we can determine) Charleville musket, carried by an ancestor of mine in the Continental Army. The provenance we have indicates that this musket was with him during the winter of 1777-'78 at Valley Forge. It's fully functional; the last time it was fired (as best we can determined) was in 1928, when my father, as an ill-behaved 10 year old, took the powder out of a shot shell he "borrowed" from his father, loaded the musket with it with no wadding or ball, thank God, tied it in a tree, and with a string set it off. I heard the story a million times before my dad passed, but he wouldn't tell me how hard my grandfather kicked his butt for risking the most prized of our family heirlooms.

1942 Winchester M1 carbine, carried by a doctor in Patton's army in North Africa who was my father's best friend for 70-odd years.

ww2freak27
January 3, 2010, 06:44 PM
A very accurate 1941 mauser k98 and then a 1945 mosin nagant m44 with all matching numbers:D

rellik74
January 4, 2010, 09:33 AM
1898 Krag It was free found it in the closit at grandma's house when she moved out, "Quite cool":rolleyes:

romer12
January 22, 2010, 01:18 AM
probably my civil war burnside, smith and maynard. Then Springfield trapdoor and a little more up date a December 1940 M1 garand (pre-war)

leadcounsel
January 22, 2010, 01:32 AM
I have a few from the 1930s and 1940s....

My favorite is the K31 for the style and straight pull, the Mosin for the economy, the Mauser for the rugged toughness, and the Garand for the patriotism/pride/semi-automatic rifle ahead of its time.

iomskp
January 22, 2010, 04:51 AM
I have a 1877 Sharps Borchardt Chinese contract

Wrothgar
January 22, 2010, 09:25 AM
All matching Swiss K31 with bayonet and frog/scabbard, sling, and muzzle cover made in 1936.

RangeRover
January 24, 2010, 10:37 AM
My two oldest:

First is a 1910 Production Ross Mk II 5*

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg280/TwoRounds/Ross%201905/IMG_9225.jpg

Second is a 1910 Enfield No. 1 Mk III
(well, started out as that - converted to .22 No. 2 Mk. IV* in 1924)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg280/TwoRounds/No2%20Mk%20IV%20L-E/NoIVRHprofile.jpg