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msta999
November 8, 2009, 02:11 AM
I am cleaning up this long gun for a retired friend of mine. Looks like a shot gun musket or something. Just looking for some info on it.

Sorry, it is a 1845, not 54.

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romer12
January 19, 2010, 06:12 PM
your harpers ferry started out as a 69 caliber flintlock. those flintlocks were converted to percussion and used in the civil war......

msta999
January 19, 2010, 10:42 PM
Are you saying this long gun may have been used in the civil war? I'll let my friend know. That would be pretty cool!

Thanks.

Uncle Buck
January 20, 2010, 08:22 AM
When you say 'cleaning up' this gun, do mean trying to get it to work? Restore it so it looks nice?

Please be very very careful, so many guns have been ruined because they were cleaned up. Unless you are a proffessional restorer, you more than likely will ruin any value this gun has by simply removing some rust.

Please, find out what it is worth before you do anything further to the gun. I would hate to see, and I bet you would feel bad, if you accidentally ruin a piece of American history.

pvt.Long
January 20, 2010, 06:09 PM
yes it was a CW gun. 69 cal smooth bore a popular load for 69s was buck and ball three buck shot behind a ball so yes it was a shotgun. That is a valuable gun if you want to clean it up find a reputable restorer that's been in the business a while. Or the cheaper way would be to buy a reproduction .69 cal smooth bore Harper's ferry musket they do sell them.

James K
January 22, 2010, 12:01 AM
The gun is a Model 1842, the first U.S. percussion musket. It is .69, and was made as a smoothbore, but many were rifled in the Civil War era. They were not considered first line weapons, but were often used in combat nevertheless.

I don't think you will find a restorer who will consider working on that gun, it is just too far gone, and a true restoration would cost more than the gun would be worth. I would clean it of active rust, dirt and dust, and hang it on the wall.

You might replace the foreend tip if you can find one at a reasonable price (try www.ssfirearms.com) and put in a repro cleaning rod (same place).

The Model 1842 is a fairly common gun. Harpers Ferry made about 100,000 of them and Springfield another 170,000. Decent ones are going for around $1600. Relics like yours bring a couple of hundred.

Jim

msta999
May 28, 2011, 07:35 PM
I found this post. My computer crashed and I lost most of my links. Thanks for the info everyone......better late than never! ;)