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Shane Tuttle
October 30, 2009, 10:30 PM
Of all the umteen kabillion different flashlights to choose from out there, I ended up buying Bill DeShivs' flashlight. I didn't need another Surefire high end one. A decent rugged, bright, light that doesn't use CR123A batteries and can fit in the palm of my hand was the criteria. Needless to say, I wasn't disappointed. This little guy is amazingly bright! It's brighter than most other lights my fellow technicians have and it didn't cost an arm and a leg. If you're looking for a great stocking stuffer or another flashlight for the car, I'd look into one of these.

I wasn't disappointed and I'm sure you won't be, either...

Wagonman
October 31, 2009, 01:15 PM
I have a 25$ metal LED flashlight with a tail mounted button that takes 2AA batteries I forget where I got it. I am surprised SureFire doesn't offer one at around the $35 dollar price point. The only thing about the MiniMag LED I don't like is the twist on feature.

madmag
October 31, 2009, 03:16 PM
I am also a flashlight geek. I do have some high end flashlights, but if you want good light for the money look into a Life+Gear light from Target. They are powered by two "C" cells and run a Cree LED at about 230 lumen's. Very good throw. "C" cells are great for general use because you can get them anywhere and they run the LED for long run times.

Price about $35.

If you want an amazing light buy a Surefire G2 for about $35, and then add an after market Cree R2 LED with about 240 lumen's. Fits in the palm of your hand and will blow most large lights out of the water. BTW, the Cree R2 is a lot brighter than the normal Surefire LED offered in the "G" series. You can get the Cree R2 ($20) drop in at

http://www.lighthound.com/

Straightshooter629
November 2, 2009, 11:16 PM
I was in Office Depot a few weeks ago and saw a "Garity" 6 led flashlight. It had a pushbutton in the tail end and it was only $6.95. It uses 3 AA batteries and is extremley bright. I 'm not sure how it rates against the high price units, but if you're on a tight budget like I am, it seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Bill DeShivs
November 2, 2009, 11:40 PM
The DeLight is brighter than the Surefires-even after the LED conversions!

madmag
November 2, 2009, 11:51 PM
The DeLight is brighter than the Surefires-even after the LED conversions!

Are you sure? My Surfire G2 conversion to Cree R2 LED is about 240 lumen's. And that's a palm size light.

BTW, I don't like 3AAA lights in general. Even with LED they just don't have that good of run times.

Shane Tuttle
November 3, 2009, 12:09 AM
As far as which is brighter, I think Bill will be the one to answer that question with clarity.

The DeLight is palm-sized, also. On top of that, the focus/flood feature is easier to use IMO.

The 3AAA battery setup with LED runs far longer than what I've seen with Surefires with CR123A batteries. The 123A batteries are also really expensive for no good reason.

madmag
November 3, 2009, 12:00 PM
Well, I guess I have to disagree with most of what you said. As far as experience, I have been playing and modifying flashlights for years. My screen name of madmag actually refers to my activity re-building Mag lights. I have test run several set-ups with 3AAA. Never seen one yet that would compete with 2AA or larger. I think if you search flashlight forums you will find the same general opinion.

Having said that, I do have some 3AAA LED lights. They work good, I just change batteries when needed.

As far as CR123 batteries, I am not in love with them. But you can get at lower prices from people like Battery Station. I really like rechargeable Lithium like my LRB-150 in my Wolf Eyes. Almost free lumen's.

I am soon going top order the Cree drop-in for my Wolf Eyes that will give me about 280 lumen's. Mine is the 9A, not palm size but still pretty small.

Another favorite of mine is my Mag "C" size that I have converted to 2XLRB-150 re-charge batteries with a K2 LED. You get great throw and variable focus.

Mojo1094
November 3, 2009, 01:18 PM
straightshooter ... I have that light. It's fantastic. I took it camping and it lit up most of the campsight.


now if I could just get a red flashlight.

madmag
November 3, 2009, 04:55 PM
The only thing about the MiniMag LED I don't like is the twist on feature.

You can get an after market push button upgrade for MiniMags. Usually found in the same area as the flashlight. I have one but now I forget what I paid, but it does work.

madmag
November 3, 2009, 05:07 PM
It makes sense now days to stay with the lower cost flashlights. There has been an amazing on going revolution in the flashlight field, so if you buy expensive today you might find a light just as good for half the price tomorrow.

For 40 years plus flashlights pretty much stayed the same. Except for people like me that modify existing flashlights to be much brighter, the only thing available was the standard "D" or "C" type flashlights. Then the LED came along. At first they were just 10 lumen's, now you can get 400 plus lumen's and for about $45. I have some expensive flashlights and even I now buy the lower cost lights. A Dorcy 3 watt 3AAA palm size light will give about 80 lumen's compared to the old bench mark of 45 lumen's for a 3 "D" Mag light. Not to mention longer run times.

So buy the lower cost lights because things are changing about every three months.:)

Jay1958
November 14, 2009, 01:45 AM
The best 6P clone for the money I have found is the SolarForce L2. For a really inexpensive EDC light that is decent quality and bright, I recommend the Romisen RC-G2. You can pick these up for around $15 and they use a single AA battery!

Another good choice in an inexpensive light is the Romisen RC-N3. You can configure these either 1xC123 or 2xAA, and you can usually pick them up for less than $20. In C123 mode, then are nice and small for everyday carry, but they come with an AA extension tube in case you don't have any C123's handy. The only downside I have found to this one is a slight battery rattle in AA mode, as the front of the tube is a little large to accomodate one C123.

The Romisens are the only really inexpensive lights I trust... the SolarForce is good, but costs a little more. Another plus for these two Romisens is they have a forward (momentary on) rear click switch. The Solarforce is a reverse clicky with no momentary on. Solarforce sells a nice forward click switch, but the darn thing costs $15-$20!

madmag
November 14, 2009, 11:15 AM
All good choices in above post.

One more thing to take into account. Try to stick with LED lights that have a regulation circuit. The ones that are direct drive do not have an even output as the batteries go down. The problem is that this information is not usually on the package, so try to read up on the Net to find if that particular light has regulation.

I have lots of lights, but lately I have been looking more to the AA powered lights. I just purchased ($37) an INOVA 2XAA LED @ about 80 lumen's . It does have regulation. Even though I have more powerful lights I find the AA lights very useful. I can use Alkaline, Lithium, or 1.2V rechargeable batteries.

The fact is that most of the time you just need a fairly bright light for close work rather than a light that will throw a beam a block away. And I can buy a package of AA batteries and I am set for what seem forever.

Delaware_Dan
November 14, 2009, 01:29 PM
The Romisens are the only really inexpensive lights I trust

+100 I have a Romisen RC-F4 that puts out 160 lumens that I bought for $14.60 with free shipping. It's no bigger that a Surefire 6P.

DAdams
November 14, 2009, 04:23 PM
You may also wish to consider 4Sevens.com

Fenix
4Sevens
NiteCore

Here is an example of technology...

190 Lumens for $39 1X123A

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/2minis.jpg

The Preons are nice and powered by AAA.
I ordered a "Kit" which is two lights in one and will run on one or two AAA. Works well if you use eneloop, Sanyo rechargables. In your shirt pocket, purse or pants.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/Preons.jpg
Nice shirt pocket light.

DAdams
November 14, 2009, 04:24 PM
Everything you ever wanted to know about flashlights.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=45

BTW if you sign up you can us the code CPF8 and get a 8% discount from anything from the 4Sevens Store.

Like beer, lifes too short to buy "cheap" flashlights.:D

Surefire and some of the supposed tactical lights are overpriced and underpowered for what you pay.

DAdams
November 14, 2009, 04:30 PM
Here is a beast.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/TK40.jpg

http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=696&osCsid=fc42b569cfc0f3e47f3e8579e0476eb8

600+ Lumens. Out the Front (OTF).

Make sure when you check lumen ratings that it is "out the front". Some ratings are misleading.

You can also find lights that are "white" and "natural" now. Some also have more "throw" than "flood".

DAdams
November 14, 2009, 04:31 PM
This one has served me well for over two years.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/t12he7.jpg

http://www.4sevens.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_85&products_id=517

Many of the lights now have strobe, SOS and multiple settings for varied use and run times.
Make sure the light you get has a "momentary" burst if you are using it for "blinding" and opponent with a quick hit.

This one has turbo, and a mid range mode. And momentary.

Bill DeShivs
November 14, 2009, 06:24 PM
I'll not get in a ******* match with the flashlight geeks.
The Delight is on sale for $35.00 until Dec. 8. Buy one, if you don't like it, send it back. They are all the light most people need. They are brighter than most high end lights, have great battery life, and have a focusable beam.

madmag
November 14, 2009, 07:04 PM
Bill, no one is knocking the Delight. I am sure it's worth the money, and is as bright as you say. If I was not putting money into sending a Smith off for re-finish I might get one myself. We should remember (me included) that this is about good lower cost lights. It' just that us flashlight geeks get a little carried away with the more expensive lights.

I agree most just need a good bright dependable light, and the Delight appears to fill that niche.

Bill DeShivs
November 14, 2009, 08:55 PM
"Geek" was not meant to be derogatory in the least. It's just that I (and most people) aren't "flashlight geeks." "Gun geeks" is another matter entirely!
I bought quite a few lights from several different manufacturers AFTER I found the DeLight to make sure there wasn't something better in a reasonable price range. I have "sorted" the suppliers, and personally test each light that I ship.
There are lights that are better in several ways-waterproof, weapon-mountable, and probably brighter.
But sorting through them yourself can get expensive (I have flashlights everywhere, that I WON'T sell.)
So, Old Bill has done the sorting for most folks, and by putting my name and guarantee on them I hope I have done a service to those who need a light. I had absolutely no intention of getting in the flashlight business, but I found a great product at a reasonable price and decided to offer them.

zxcvbob
November 14, 2009, 09:18 PM
My two most recent flashlight purchases are among my favorites (I probably have way too many flashlights.) They were each about $20:


Rayovac "HighBeam". 3W LED, 2AA batteries, aluminum housing. Perfect for carrying in a coat pocket.

Energizer "Intrinsically Safe Mine Safety Flashlight" (model MS2DLED). 1W LED, 2D batteries, plastic housing. This is the one that stays in my truck. The orange housing is starting to fade; the yellow model just like it (IN2DLED) might have been a better choice. Or maybe I just shouldn't have left it on the dashboard in the summer sun :rolleyes: http://www.brightguy.com/products/Energizer_Industrial_1_Watt_LED_Flashlight_IN2DLED.php

DAdams
November 14, 2009, 10:49 PM
The DeLight is on sale for...They are all the light most people need. They are brighter than most high end lights, have great battery life, and have a focusable beam.


If you visit the Candle Power Forum there are literally 100s of lights to choose from. Choose wisely.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=222462

Flashlights these days are like computers obsolete the day they hit the market, and have been in development for months. Brighter, more features, longer operation, adjustable output to match the job and are less money in some cases.

LED lights require regulation circuits, which in turn offer intensity (output) adjustability. Some are designed prone to flood, some more to spot. Some have tailcaps allowing them to standup and light a room.
Some are crenelated (jagged edges) and can serve as defensive weapons. Some have momentary on (pulsed capable) switches which can temporarily blind an adversary allowing flight or a defensive advantage.

Compact EDC lights (every day carry lights) are not much larger than the battery which powers them. Light rating (wars) should be based on what they deliver out the front (OTF) in lumens.

If you have never had a light that delivers 175 lumens or better in a form factor of two inches for around $39 delivered (and a lifetime warranty) your are paying too much or being short changed from a performance basis.

Lights are like knives, handguns, rifles, shotguns etc. there is no such thing as one that does everything and likely you will end up owning more than one. And they are improving monthly. But don't let that stop you from purchasing.

BTW most better lights these days have a brand of LED made by a company called Cree. Cree emitters, they are called. Kind of like Intel Inside. Cree dominates and is a market leader in low power/high output.

Just one user's opinion. Not a flashlight geek but an educated consumer.

DAdams
November 14, 2009, 11:21 PM
You can get an after market push button upgrade for MiniMags. Usually found in the same area as the flashlight. I have one but now I forget what I paid, but it does work.

I did the "upgrade" LED head and tailcap switch. Waste of money. Keep it as it is or junk it.

I lived with Maglights for years, but I'm sure glad 150 other lights came along and made them an non entity.

Bill DeShivs
November 15, 2009, 04:59 AM
The DeLight uses a Cree emitter, BTW. And it IS a wise choice. I have not had ONE dissatisfied customer!

rickyjames
November 15, 2009, 11:48 AM
call me old fashioned but my favorite flashlites are the big everready 6 volt lights and anything from maglite. recently i have picked up a few small led flashlites sitting on the checkout counter at autozone 2/$5.00. these work well also.

I have tried a couple of the super zoom tacktikool flashlites and they have all been a disappointment. poor battery life, blown bulbs, shorting out causing the body of the light to get hot. now people have told me i just need to buy more expensive units. i think to myself if i have problems with a $30 to $60 unit why in the hell would i spend more money.

fisherman66
November 15, 2009, 12:16 PM
call me old fashioned

Yer old fashioned!:D The last 5 years have brought incredible jumps in LED technology. The Mag and Lanterns are truly dinosaurs. It's too back since an American company could retool and compete with the quad-die guys and offer an updated icon that I'd rather own. Bill's torch might be a nice alternative.

madmag
November 15, 2009, 02:22 PM
The Mag and Lanterns are truly dinosaurs.

Yes, except when they are modified by us flashlight geeks. Then you can have a Mag body with some putting out as much as a 1000 lumen's. But not the average guys cup pf tea.:)

One of my mods I like the best is my 2 "C" Mag modified for 3 CR123 or 2 re-charge lithium batteries, driving a K2 LED. Great throw and adjustable beam. Somewhere around the 200 lumen mark.

fisherman66
November 15, 2009, 02:28 PM
I understand....really, but then all you have is the shell of the Mag. I've seen overbored Mag bodies and tri-milled crescent cuts for three rows of batteries. You don't keep the plastic lens do you? Kinda like calling a NASCAR racer a Chevy. The true hot rods are the quad-dies. Imagine a set of 5 heatsinked quads on a 3_D Mag powered by lithiums. That's right up there with HID lights.

madmag
November 15, 2009, 02:53 PM
You don't keep the plastic lens do you? Kinda like calling a NASCAR racer a Chevy.

No, you have to have a glass lens. Yes, it's not really a Mag anymore. But the Mag bodies are great for modifying.

Example:

http://www.blackbearflashlights.com/index.htm?l_borealis.htm

Better have your money ready.:D

jgcoastie
November 15, 2009, 04:54 PM
I just ordered some of these (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200395696_200395696) for my shop to replace the CR123-eaters...

Nothing fancy, just a rechargeable, 3W, Cree bulb flashlight. It's a PITA (not to mention expensive) to keep replacing CR123 batteries. The new lights will pay for themselves in a year when compared to the cost of CR123's and HAZMAT shipping fees. At least someone (me) is trying to save the taxpayers money...

I'll let you guys know how they work out.

madmag
November 15, 2009, 05:01 PM
I'll let you guys know how they work out.

I bet they work out just fine. You will love the re-chargeable lithium's. Great life between charges, great run times, and no batteries to buy....what's not to like.:)

jgcoastie
November 15, 2009, 05:05 PM
no batteries to buy....what's not to like.

And no (used) batteries to discard... You'd be surprised at the amount of regulations involved with discarding HAZMAT...

I'm trying to push rechargeable everything (lights/tools/etc) to all the other shops on my ship. I recently processed a HAZMAT discard shipment and realized just how much money we drain from our budget on senseless use of consumable HAZMAT items...

When you pay 2x more for shipment to/from the unit than the cost of the batteries themselves, it becomes counter-productive...

ragwd
November 15, 2009, 05:08 PM
I just received 2 of the delights from Bill, They are as advertised. Very bright, small and delivery was very quick. I like the idea of AAA batteries, instead of the others and the price was right. I don't know Bill and I am not his Homer. There might be a better light out there for the price, I just don't know of it. Satisfied customer.

output
November 15, 2009, 06:17 PM
I just picked up a DeLight from Bill about a week or so ago and I have no complaints. The OP started a thread about “cheap” flashlight recommendations…people are posting links to lights that are two, three, and four times the cost of the DeLight. I own over four surefire lights that I am happy with and that I paid a lot of money for. I also own one Delight that I paid $35.00 for that is just as bright as some of my high-end lights.

madmag
November 15, 2009, 07:00 PM
The OP started a thread about “cheap” flashlight recommendations…

You are correct, and I am one of the guilty parties. Flashlights are another hobby for me so it's hard to limit my conversation.

Now to stay with cheap flashlights.

I have said that I am sure the Delight is what everyone says. I also have some lower cost lights powered by 3 AAA and they work great. Now my only personal issue is I am not in love with lights that use battery carriers. It adds another device that must be loaded and can fail. I have had 3 AAA carriers fail. Then the light is of no use. NOT saying the Delight carrier will fail. For low cost operation I like AA batteries that are loaded straight in with no carrier. Not to mention higher MAH capacity with AA. Just my preference.:)

One issue is that the LED flashlight world is changing at almost every three month rate. So when the LED flashlights are discussed, you will find lots of input about different lights because so many are available that have good performance. This is mainly due to the Cree LED being available to lots of manufactures. Just the way it is.

Shane Tuttle
November 15, 2009, 07:25 PM
The OP started a thread about “cheap” flashlight recommendations…people are posting links to lights that are two, three, and four times the cost of the DeLight. I own over four surefire lights that I am happy with and that I paid a lot of money for. I also own one Delight that I paid $35.00 for that is just as bright as some of my high-end lights.

I did have the intention of discussing inexpensive flashlights. But madmag, Bill, and others have provided quality posts regarding some other options without the chest pounding. If it were to go down hill with the usual "Ford vs. Chevy" garbage, I would've shut it down. However, like I said, the level of discussion has been quite informative and it would be a shame for me to get bent out of shape over the price issue.

For the record, after almost two weeks use, I finally had to replace the batteries. I never logged the time, but I'm guessing I used it for at least an hour or two per day. The light was still useable, but I need my light to be rather bright to perform quality inspections in my line of work. If not, I'm willing to bet it would have gone a few more hours. This is a wild guess in the time. However I thought it was impressive to say the least.

Coastie, that appears to be a great light. I'm not sure if brightness is a big factor or not, but the DeLight is rated at 225 lumens IIRC. Doesn't come with a charger and batteries, though.

madmag
November 15, 2009, 07:47 PM
Doesn't come with a charger and batteries, though.

That's another part of the equation. You can get a cheap AAA charger and NiMH batteries and they will work great in the Delight. should give longer run times. Even-though they are 1.2V, NiMH are better at current delivery and brightness is usually as good or even better.

jgcoastie
November 15, 2009, 08:03 PM
Coastie, that appears to be a great light. I'm not sure if brightness is a big factor or not, but the DeLight is rated at 225 lumens IIRC. Doesn't come with a charger and batteries, though.

Hopefully it will be. We need "bright" lights, but not too bright. The glare of a super bright light is a hindrance in some instances as I experienced with a Browning 210L Tactical Hunter. It had a 210 Lumen output and was almost too bright.

I'm sure the DeLight is indeed a great light and I may look into ordering one for personal use. The inability to substitute consumable batteries was a big factor in my quest for replacement flashlights. I didn't want people to get lazy about having to charge the batteries and just popping in consumable ones.

Shane Tuttle
November 15, 2009, 08:53 PM
Hopefully it will be. We need "bright" lights, but not too bright.

I agree with that for our line of work. Sometimes, a light that's too bright causes the eye to miss flaws on the surface you're inspecting. Seems like there's good flashlights everywhere we look. Quite different scenario 10 years ago...

That's another part of the equation. You can get a cheap AAA charger and NiMH batteries and they will work great in the Delight. should give longer run times. Even-though they are 1.2V, NiMH are better at current delivery and brightness is usually as good or even better.

That's my next quest. I have no idea what's going to be the best charger for the batteries I want to convert (flashlight and household items).

madmag
November 15, 2009, 09:28 PM
That's my next quest. I have no idea what's going to be the best charger for the batteries I want to convert (flashlight and household items).

You don't need anything fancy. I find the Energizer, Duracell, or Ray-O-vac chargers work great. Wal-Mart is a good place. The AA chargers will also do AAA, but if you want to have full range from AAA to "D" then you will have to get a little more expensive, but same brands.

Oh, remember one thing. From "C" size on up you are still getting an AA re-chargeable. They just basically put a AA NiMH in a body that fits a "C" or "D" size. You can get actual "C" or "D" size from people like batteryjunction, but not normally at your local store.

http://www.batteryjunction.com/

Bill DeShivs
November 15, 2009, 10:18 PM
Madmag-
Perhaps you can help me. I need to get a friend a light for Christmas (he already has a DeLight) and he wants an extremely powerful spotlight. Is there an inexpensive 6V lantern-type that uses a good LED? This is not something that I have researched. He wants it for night varmint hunting.
Rememer-Old cheap Bill is buying it!

madmag
November 15, 2009, 10:25 PM
Bill,

Quick answer, I just looked the other day at Lowes Hardware and they had a hand held spot light using a (I think) 5W LED. I don't remember that it had a lumen's rating. It was not really cheap, I think about $37. The problem is that is not an area the LED's have completely overtaken. It's still hard to beat a million candle power ican re-charge type for about $20. Of course they are not small and the charge is only good for about 30 min.

I will look for more info at some of my flashlights sites.

jgcoastie
November 15, 2009, 10:25 PM
Madmag-
Perhaps you can help me. I need to get a friend a light for Christmas (he already has a DeLight) and he wants an extremely powerful spotlight. Is there an inexpensive 6V lantern-type that uses a good LED? This is not something that I have researched. He wants it for night varmint hunting.
Rememer-Old cheap Bill is buying it!

Bill,
Try this... (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200395698_200395698)

madmag
November 15, 2009, 11:51 PM
jgcoastie,

That light has 3 led's and that is not normally good for throw (distance) and is expensive.

madmag
November 16, 2009, 12:09 AM
Bill, at this point I would say that there are not any inexpensive LED spots that can compete with the re-charge hand held incandescent spots you can buy at most stores. These usually run a 55W bulb.

Now going higher in price to about $100 you can get a Mag Charger. That is nothing like the normal Mag light. It runs on re-charge batteries and has about 500 lumen's. Run times are good at about 1 hour. The bulb is about 20Watts. Very good distance spot.

Best I know it takes about $150 to get an LED flashlight that runs about 400 Lumen's with good distance.

That's a niche that LED's have not filled.

Then even higher you get into HID with 3000 lumen's but they cost like you know what.

Best bet for the money. Get a low cost million candle power spot with a back-up battery. This could give you about an hour of run time. More for on-off use.
Here is a typical spot. You can find similar brands at Wal-Mart, Target, etc.
http://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/tradeshow-promotions/garrity-1mcandlepwr-recharge-spotlight.htm?iorb=4764

PS: I have seen some as low price as $15.

madmag
November 16, 2009, 12:29 AM
I am not into spots much, but I found this one at Sears. I like it myself. It uses the standard Sears drill battery...good feature.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00911593000P?mv=rr

jgcoastie
November 16, 2009, 01:39 AM
That light has 3 led's and that is not normally good for throw (distance) and is expensive.

Fair enough... I'm no "light geek", I like 'em and have a bunch of 'em... But I'm not very well-versed in the tech side of them...

Thus far I've accumulated:

1- 2D Maglite (incandescent)
1- 3D Maglite (LED)
1- 4D Maglite (LED)
2- Browning 210L (LED)
2- Surefire Z2 (LEDs)
2- Surefire G2 (LEDs)
2- Glock rail-mount laser/light (Xenon)
6 or 7 Energizer and Rayovac LED's
6- 2AA MiniMaglite (incandescent/LED mix)
2- S&W 13 LED white/red
5- Barbie/Dora/Handy Manny/Spongebob lights (my daughter shares my fascination with lights...)
3- DeWalt worklights (Xenon, I think...)
4- Milwaulke worklights (Xenon, I think...)

Love me some flashlights...

jcjr3020
November 16, 2009, 01:58 AM
You have to check out the LED LENSER by Coast. It is a great light that is led, uses three AA Bat., and is focusable. you can order them or you can get them at LOWE'S. Coast also has tactical mounts and switches.

Bill DeShivs
November 16, 2009, 02:09 AM
Thanks for all the information!

rhetter69
November 23, 2009, 04:51 PM
Does the DeLight have a momentary pushbutton switch?

Ray

cwb
November 23, 2009, 07:07 PM
i have 2 of the surefires that are like $38 and they are awesome

Orlando
November 23, 2009, 07:36 PM
I ordered two of the DeLights from Bill a couple days ago. I'll give a review when they come in

Bill DeShivs
November 24, 2009, 02:02 AM
The switch on the DeLight can be used in momentary fashion. In the "on" position, you can blink the light by partially depressing the switch.

Bill DeShivs
November 24, 2009, 02:03 AM
Orlando-
Please be patient. I'm waiting on a large shipment. I sold out last week!

jgcoastie
November 24, 2009, 02:38 AM
I just received the Klutch rechargeable Cree bulb lights in today.

Man, these things are bright! Better than I expected and thus far I'm pretty pleased.

It has a super-bright, central "beam" that is about 18" in diameter at 15ish feet. In addition to the "beam" it throws a fair amount of dimmer light to the outside that is sufficient to completely illuminate a pitch-black 10'x10' bedroom well enough to identify everything in the room.

I'll add more info as it comes, but just playing around with it today; I think these lights will be great companions.

It has replaced my Surefire Z2 (LED) as my carry light.

MagicMan
November 24, 2009, 07:14 AM
Is there a belt clip available for the Delight?

seeker_two
November 24, 2009, 02:16 PM
Recently bought a Coleman flashlight at Wal-Mart. Uses CREE tech, and is rated at 140 lumens for the white light (also has red & green LED's). So far, it's been a great $30 light. Probably will pick up a few more for around the house...

Shane Tuttle
November 24, 2009, 09:29 PM
Not a clip, but a lanyard is included if that's any consolation.

DAdams
November 24, 2009, 09:58 PM
Rechargeable Batteries...you may wish to consider the Sanyo eneloops.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/0c47828fd7a00fa9b7dd5110_L-1.jpg

Search them out on Amazon as the prices and the packaging (number of types and sizes varies).

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_3?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=eneloop&sprefix=ene

I just purchased item 11, which includes AA and AAA batteries, charger and carrying case.

BTW this is the best test of "budget" LED lights I have seen so far.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=222462

Bill you should provide a DeLight for testing. Good exposure.

DAdams
November 24, 2009, 10:14 PM
The Romisen lights seem to get good marks for LED lights in the $10-25 range.
http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-All-Flashlights/Categories
Looks like Shining Beam has a similar discount code when searched.

I still like the 4Sevens and Fenix for price vs. quaility best. I have had three that are used almost daily for over two years and still going strong.

The Quarks in addition to a 10 year warranty come with a nice set of accessories.
The high power (light) engines currently are the Cree Emitter XPG R5.

Discount Sales
Most all retailers (online) have discount codes which are available if sought. For example everything on the 4Sevens site uses the CPF8 code for a 8% discount. Many have closeouts, purging inventory of prior models. Sacrafice a few lumens and save some $$.


Example of accessories. Clips are a personal preferance. Many manufactures offer their lights with and without, some are removable and some are even reversable. The clip might act as the detent to keep it from rolling.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m22/dadams111/Quark201-cell20accessories.jpg

espnazi
November 25, 2009, 12:07 AM
Get a Fenix E20! only like $35.

Cousin Toad
November 25, 2009, 01:57 PM
I purchased a "cheap" Coleman brand LED flashlight from Walmart it was about the $18-$20 range. This little light was brighter than I would have thought and very small only about 4.75" by 1.5" in diameter. I believe the package rated it at 75 lumens annodized black aluminum with the cannelure cap and a lanyard. It takes 3 AAA batteries and it has a good run time on the batteries. It is made in China, but most everything you buy on the cheap nowadays is.

Sams Club has a two-pack of LED lights labeled "Serengeti" for $28.87 (Type in stock #569309) . These lights are very similar to the Coleman model and on the package they are rated at 160 lumens and use 3 AAA batteries. The next time I go to Sams I am going to purchase the lights and give 'em a try. Unfortunately these lights are also made in China.

LukeA
November 27, 2009, 01:54 PM
An LED light that runs from 3AAA is usually a piece of crap. They usually rely on the voltage drop of the cells under load to provide a semblance of not-quite-regulation and tend to use cheap components, like low-quality plastic reflectors, imprecise TIR optics, and low-bin LEDs. That's if you're lucky enough to find one with high-flux LEDs and a metal body. They also tend to have poor thermal connections between the LED package and the outside of the light.