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lgsracer
October 30, 2009, 10:44 AM
Now that is a lot of bacon!

Big boar! Wild hog weighing 780 pounds bagged in north Mobile County

By Jeff Dute
October 30, 2009, 8:18AM

http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/big_boar_wild_hog_weighing_780.html


http://media.al.com/live/photo/hog1jpg-cb094a40fae15bce_large.jpg
Adam Stagner - hunting Wednesday in north Mobile County with his best friend, Matt Pryor - killed a 780-pound feral hog that apparently is one of the biggest free-ranging hogs ever bagged by a hunter. The massive beast is pictured above in the back of a pickup truck Wednesday night, and its hooves are shown at right. The boar measured 6 feet 11 inches long, had a neck girth of 51 inches, stood an estimated 44 inches tall and had 3.5 inch long cutters (bottom tusks). "It's probably the biggest game animal I'll ever kill," Stagner said.


TURNERVILLE, Ala. - At 300 yards, the dark blotch feeding on the Big Oak Hunting Club's No. 7 food plot Wednesday evening evoked different opinions from the three who were looking at it.

"It's a cow, daddy, a cow," exclaimed Adam Stagner's 3-year-old son, Elliott.

"No, it's a black bear," said Stagner's best friend, Matt Pryor.

For Stagner, 26, the issue wasn't settled until he watched the animal toss its massive head from side to side, sending dirt flying high in its effort to get at the planted crop in the plot in north Mobile County.

It was a wild hog they estimated at between 300 and 400 pounds.

Stagner would later learn that guess was only half right.

They raced back to the house and finally decided a .30-06 would be big enough to handle the job.

The two men returned to No. 7, and about halfway through, Stagner said, things got serious.

"He saw us or winded us about the same time we saw him ... and everything just started happening real fast," Pryor said.

Stagner added, "He started moving off at about 40 yards, and it didn't seem like the first two shots from that ought-6 even fazed him. I started thinkin' I hadn't brought enough gun."


The third shot, which Stagner
and Pryor agreed likely severed the spine, finally knocked the pig down. A close-range fourth shot ended the hunt.

"I just wanted to make sure it was dead, and then my buddy (Matt) starts jumpin' up and down and yellin,' 'State record! State record!'" Stagner said. "There are hogs all around in that swamp, but nothing like this."

The boar was so big, Stagner's 500-horsepower four-wheeler couldn't pull it out of the woods, and they had to use a front-end loader to get it into the back of Pryor's four-wheel-drive truck.

Pryor and Stagner took the pig to Dean Brothers Auto Salvage in Kushla, where it was weighed late Thursday morning at 780 pounds.

The boar measured 6 feet 11 inches long, had a neck girth of 51 inches, stood an estimated 44 inches tall and had 3½-inch long cutters (bottom tusks).

"It's probably the biggest game animal I'll ever kill," Stagner said.

Alabama doesn't have a record book for wild hogs, which are deemed nuisance animals by the state's conservation department, but an Internet search revealed that Wild Boar USA has maintained the Weiser Weight and Tusk record book since 2005.

A search of the book's free-ranging boar category shows the world record with a score of 737. Official scorer Heather Garner of Aliceville said the score includes the weight plus measurements derived from the animal's tusks.

Unfortunately, Pryor and Stagner cut the tusks out and tried to salvage as much meat as possible before burying the rest.

Even though Stagner's boar scored higher than the existing world record without any tusk measurements, Garner said in order to qualify as a record, it must be possible to get all of the measurements with the hog in a whole condition.

"That's too bad, because if that weight is correct, it sounds like it would have been up there," Garner said.

2DaMtns
October 30, 2009, 01:42 PM
Two things I noticed right away when reading this -

First, I have never in my life seen/heard/heard of a 500HP four wheeler. I am guessing they meant 500cc, although the former would be much funner than the latter.

I interpret this to mean the first three shots were at about 40 yards, and three hits with an 06 didn't do it in? I wonder where he hit it? I know these things are tough, but come on. I also noticed they didn't say where any of the shots impacted the animal. Maybe he had a 150 gr load or something even smaller maybe. A 200gr probably would have changed things, assuming he hit it decently.

Just in case I am way off base with the questioning of the 06 on a boar this size at this distance, I freely admit I have never shot a pig in my life, but I still think he must have hit it poorly, used an inferior load, or both.

However, that is one ginormous hog, and I still give props to the guy.

MTT TL
October 30, 2009, 02:03 PM
44" tall? Goodnight it was bigger than most black bears and more than a few brown.

The Canuck
October 30, 2009, 02:05 PM
My bet is shot placement. There is at least one guy who has taken a 350lb boar with a .45 Auto.

Scorch
October 30, 2009, 02:11 PM
If you look at the pig, you can see that it is a domestic breed pig, bred for size. You can also see that it is very well-fed and fat, something you don't see in wild boar. Another Fred The Pig story, I'm afraid.

Rangefinder
October 30, 2009, 02:13 PM
I've seen a couple hog skulls as curios and desk decoration before. I'd need a much bigger desk for that one! I'll bet he'd get a christmas ham off of that one for the whole neighborhood to share---with left-overs for a week.:D

lgsracer
October 30, 2009, 02:19 PM
The guy was a white tail hunter. The hog was shot on a deer hunting club food plot. He was probably loaded with a thin skinned 150 grain for deer hunting. It would have expanded and stopped in the fat gristle layer over the ribs without getting to any of the vitals.

I use a 45/70 lever action for hawg hunting.

My BIL uses a M1A loaded up with 165 grain SSTs over 41.2 grains of Ramshot TAC, he is shooting on a 300 yard food plot and wants a little more flat shooting round than my 45/70 will give. Also he is trying to take out as many hogs as possible. His club has several sounders of up to 30 head rooting the place up.

hogdogs
October 30, 2009, 02:20 PM
He ain't been feral long... If he is a boar and not a barrow... I will go ahead and call poo-poo on someones shoe right now. Skull has not adapted to the life of a rooting animal as they do in just a couple generations.
Brent

lgsracer
October 30, 2009, 02:28 PM
Scorch

Of course he is fat he had been raiding deer food plots and that is a peanut and soybean farming area, plus it near the Tensaw delta ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile-Tensaw_River_Delta ). Plenty of good eating. Most of the hogs down here are feral domestic. There is some European boar mixes in the mid to north eastern part of the state.

Countertop
October 30, 2009, 02:37 PM
If you look at the pig, you can see that it is a domestic breed pig, bred for size. You can also see that it is very well-fed and fat, something you don't see in wild boar. Another Fred The Pig story, I'm afraid.

Indeed.

Look at those ears and the notches in them.

Here's the other pic from the link

http://media.al.com/live/photo/hog2jpg-dcf215cac6439010_medium.jpg

Thats a domestic pig that was born and bred on a production farm.

JerseyDrez
October 30, 2009, 02:42 PM
That thing is massive.

An italian family that lives next to me, that my family is very good friends with, raise a pig every year and kill it every christmas for food that lasts them about a year.

The biggest theyve had is 580lbs, and I thought THAT was big...

hogdogs
October 30, 2009, 02:44 PM
I have legged hogs in the peanut field and coulda likely crapped p-nut butter... But the skull still looked feral. This'n looks like the head on my buddies prized pink #800 pound breeder boar...:D
Brent

lgsracer
October 30, 2009, 02:45 PM
Farm raised hogs have their incisors clipped as piglets as well as being castrated. I don't know anyone who keeps boar hogs artificial insemination is the way they all go.

hogdogs
October 30, 2009, 02:50 PM
My buddy runs a show pig barn...

Yes you break the teeth as piglets but not all farmers do this. Considering that the tusks and wetters are continuously growing at high speed, like rodents.... they tend to need repeated breaking on pigs you are keeping longer than "feeder pig" shoats as we raised in my childhood.
Longest cutters I ever seen were on a pet potbelly and they were over 5 inches.:eek:
Brent

DRice.72
October 30, 2009, 02:57 PM
wow

Countertop
October 30, 2009, 03:13 PM
Farm raised hogs have their incisors clipped as piglets as well as being castrated. I don't know anyone who keeps boar hogs artificial insemination is the way they all go.

Anyone with Sows keeps fully intact - and tusked up - boars. Not for the insemination - your right, that's all AI (or at least it is in production barns) but for heat checking (ie: visual stimulation to get the ladies in the mood so to speak - even with AI they need to be ready).

Countertop
October 30, 2009, 03:14 PM
and some keep barrows that way too - especially if your running heritage breeds or PETA HSUS approved meat or want to sell boar meat (yuck).

Daryl
October 30, 2009, 05:24 PM
Just another "hog story".

I ain't buyin' it.

I have a buddy in Colorado Springs who has a hog about that big. He bought it to butcher several years back, and never got around to it. Now his name is "Homer". He's huge, but he's not feral; just like the one in the picture.

Daryl

hogdogs
October 30, 2009, 05:27 PM
He bought it to butcher several years back, and never got around to it.= Made it a pet:D
Brent

Double Naught Spy
October 30, 2009, 05:37 PM
The pig in the picture looks like the old pig in the county fair in Charlotte's Web. So yeah, not a feral hog.

And yeah, I have little kids, LOL.

pwillie
October 30, 2009, 09:25 PM
You guys are something else LOL. A 805 lb Sow was Taken in Coffeville,Al. back in '87....after it was weighed,it was dropped on the side of the road(hiway 69) She was all black,and had a lot of ear cuts as well,long tusks.No one in his right mind would want to eat one.I saw this same hog a week earlier in my field down on the Tombigbee river.She was rooting up my green patch.I told a friend about it,and he said he would take care of the problem,I guess he did.I have feral hogs behind my house in a swamp along with deer and turkey.This story brought out all the anti-hunting nuts....why kill a defenseless hog?

pwillie
October 30, 2009, 09:36 PM
Speaking of "hogs"...we use to take deer to a cleaning place in Evergreen,Al..The guy that cleaned our deer had some hogs next to the shed.When he started dressing out the deer,he would toss the legs and entrals to the hogs! I asked if the hogs would eat a "does" head,he said "sure"...then he tossed it to the hogs,and they begin to ravage the head.....last time I took him anything to dress....:barf:

Daryl
October 30, 2009, 10:01 PM
= Made it a pet
Brent


Yep. I talked with Rob a little while ago. He cuts the tusks off of "Homer" about once a year, but it needs done again. Right now, the tusks curl almost back to his ears.

Homer's about the same size as this hog is claimed to be, so I'm thinking if it was truly a "feral", it'd have a bit more tusk than that. Even worn down I think they'd be bigger and heavier.

Might have to have himi send me a picture. ;)

Daryl

hogdogs
October 30, 2009, 10:07 PM
Daryl, the feral hog is influenced by both genetics and environment in regards to tusk length.
I am betting "homer's" "wetters" need left alone a few times he cuts. They are not growing back as fast as the cutters so they are curling back.

when you see aboriginal peoples of many locales, they will have a near circular "bone" in their nose. This is created by breaking only the wetters and come butcher time the cutters are overgrown creating the "nose jewelry" we so often see.
Brent

trooper3385
October 30, 2009, 11:22 PM
Feral or not, that's one big pig. I think I would have been putting on a fireworks display also if it came up to my blind.

Double Naught Spy
October 31, 2009, 07:00 AM
If not feral, then it is sort of like shooting a small cow, isn't it?

shortwave
October 31, 2009, 09:19 AM
When it comes to hogs 'hogdogs' is right once again. Years ago, a distant relation(Calvin) had some market hogs on his farm in which he got to old to take care of the fencing. Long story short, Calvin, depending on some other rather useless, neighboring relation(relation Calvin help to feed:mad:) to mend his fences and feed hogs in the winter months was surprised to find out that all his hogs had been loose all winter. Years after we would go rabbit/pheasant hunt Calvins property and often dispatch one of these hogs. Over time these hogs re-grew tusk`s, offsprings head narrowed,snout and ears got smaller, and they where hairy`er. Two moral`s to this story: 1 is domestic hogs will reproduce tusk`s/adapt to the wild and the off-spring will look more feral than parents. 2nd moral is just because a useless person is a relative, doesn`t make him/her any less useless:barf:. The hog in this pic. hasn`t been feral long.

Para Bellum
October 31, 2009, 07:29 PM
Close to us a farmer has domestic pigs with over 500kg, 1100#. That's more than a spanish fighting bull (these are actually small bulls).

gyrocfi
November 3, 2009, 10:15 AM
I've only seen feral hogs in Hawaii. Mostly at Pohakuloa Training Area (PTA). They're small and fast and run through your camp on the way to God knows where. But I did see one (while flying tour helicopter) at the base of Pu'u O Umi caldera (blown out volcano vent). It made this hog look small. It had the coloring and size of a Jersey cow. It was eating vegetation at the edge of the pond created by the water from the falls of the pu'u. It looked domesticated also but from what other pilots told me they have lots of feral hogs wandering around in those valleys that are of that size. It's like a jungle of vegetation on the North Shore so plenty to eat without all the rooting around.