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holt2010
September 9, 2009, 03:38 PM
Hey guys i just recently got a mosin nagant 91/30 and I cant get the safety to engage. I looked on the web and found how to do it but the cocking piece wont move when i try to pull it back. Any thoughts?

TerminalVelocity16
September 9, 2009, 04:16 PM
It can take a very fair amount of force to pull back the handle. Also another thing, the bolt must be cocked for the safety to work on some models. If neither of those are the issue then something is obviously jammed inside the bolt. In which case I would dismantle it and try and find the issue, or have a gunsmith do it if you don't know how.

-Term

simonkenton
September 9, 2009, 05:56 PM
That Mosin Nagant safety is a real pos.

raftman
September 9, 2009, 08:09 PM
It seems to take a ton of strength, at least on mine. I don't even bother with it, just follow the 4 rules and let that be my safety.

tater134
September 10, 2009, 01:29 PM
The mosin safety is pretty solid but incredibly hard to turn on and off.I modified the firing pin springs on my two mosins so you can use the safety since I use both of them for hunting.

Claude Clay
September 10, 2009, 02:28 PM
what's a safety?

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm

stickhauler
September 11, 2009, 06:49 PM
When it ain't loaded. If you put ammo in it, it assumes you want to make it go BANG! It likes to go BANG!

BIKENUT06
September 11, 2009, 06:54 PM
my safety is my trigger finger

Ignition Override
September 15, 2009, 02:25 AM
One guy stated that when he tried to pull and twist that d@@@@d bolt, he lost the use of one or two small tendons in his hand or wrist.

The only hang-up is supervising others who use your gun.

jhenry
September 15, 2009, 07:27 AM
The safety on my Finn M39 is far easier to use then the others. That being said, the trick is to put the butt in the crook of the arm and use that hand to pull the knob back and turn it. Makes it much easier.

jsmaye
September 15, 2009, 08:11 AM
One guy stated that when he tried to pull and twist that d@@@@d bolt, he lost the use of one or two small tendons in his hand or wrist.


He used his index finger and thumb and crushed the nerve in his finger. I've used my index and middle fingers to hook around the knob - it's more difficult but lessens the chance of nerve damage.

Rangefinder
September 15, 2009, 09:00 AM
I'm with those who've already posted "Satety? On a Mosin? What safety? That's my index finger."

Heck--I forgot the thing even HAD a safety! :D I just think of it two ways---When the bolt is out, the safety is on. When it's not, it's ready to go BANG. That simple mind-set is much easier than trying to operate the mechanical safety, and I get to keep the skin on my fingers.

MagnumWill
September 29, 2009, 06:00 PM
I second that- It's quicker to yank the bolt out and reinsert it than try to set and take off the safety. Nothing safer than having the firing pin in your pocket :p

Mike40-11
October 14, 2009, 08:02 PM
My favorite comment on the Mosin and it's safety:
It does, in fact, have a safety, but it's quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, "Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!" while pounding his fist on the table.

And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting "WHAT?" to communicate.
http://www.google.com/search?q=ten+manliest+firearms&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

mp25ds4
October 14, 2009, 08:12 PM
whether or not the gun is loaded, where your pointing the barrel, and whether or not im pulling the trigger is what i use for the safety on my mosin cause the normal one is too hard to pull back just like on yours

SigP6Carry
October 15, 2009, 12:17 PM
It is an extremely hard safety to actually work. And the one time I did use it: I spent more time trying to disengage it than actually shooting. Mine seemed to lock up on me and only a good amount of fussing over it got it undone. And then my bolt locked up due to cosmoline: all in all, I got to fire 11 rounds and spending twenty minutes wrestling with the gun. Not a fun experience, I haven't used it since.

Hardcase
October 16, 2009, 10:37 PM
http://www.fluidlight.com/Guns/safety.jpg

mp25ds4
October 16, 2009, 10:44 PM
i dont get the shirt

bhannah
October 16, 2009, 10:45 PM
what's a safety?

And then on his signature line...

NRA Instructor....

nice...

SigP6Carry
October 16, 2009, 11:58 PM
they're little inside jokes among the Mosin shooting community. Mosin safeties are so hard to work that it's not worth using.

finfanatic
October 17, 2009, 08:47 AM
I stopped using the safety on my 91/30 after I cycled the bolt and the bolt came apart. I must have twisted it the wrong way or something.

I only load it when I ready to fire now.

jon_in_wv
October 17, 2009, 10:00 AM
The safety is between you ears.

Keep your booger hook off the bang button.

samoand
October 17, 2009, 12:33 PM
Opening the bolt (not pulling back, just turning) works as alternative safety. IIRC, half-opening it may work as well - accidental pulling of the trigger would cause the bolt close, but no shot fired. I'm not confident about this last one though - different Mosins may act differently and I wouldn't want to propose something dangerous.
Turning the bolt fully into "open" position should be safe though.

SigP6Carry
October 17, 2009, 02:32 PM
why leave a round in the chamber and a half upturned bolt on a mosin when you can just pop the bolt out? Plus, on my mosin, when I leave the bolt half upturned and pull the trigger: the firing pin does infact come down, which leads me to believe it would fire a round. Maybe it would just dent the primer, but it makes me nervous just to think of it.

jon_in_wv
October 17, 2009, 02:55 PM
I would remove the bolt on the range. If I was going in the field I would probably close the bolt on an empty chamber, maybe pull the trigger in a safe direction, then carry it with the bolt closed so crud doesnt' get in it.

nolmsted
October 18, 2009, 09:35 AM
A great place to look up info on old guns is www.surplusrifles.com

http://www.surplusrifle.com/russianmosin189130/index.asp

devilfrog
October 18, 2009, 03:04 PM
As others said...the Mosin has a safety? :D

jon_in_wv
October 19, 2009, 05:49 PM
I've never used the safety on my Mosins or my K31. The K31 does have a better safety however.

XD Gunner
October 20, 2009, 02:22 PM
And then on his signature line...

NRA Instructor....

nice..

It was a quote from http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm

Ah well, safeties just make it easier to handle a firearm inappropriately.