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freakintoguns
August 25, 2009, 05:43 PM
so id like to pick up a semi auto shotgun and since i already own a remington 870 i figure ill stay brand loyal and pick up a 1100 or a 11-87. this gun would be for HD primarily, as well as target shooting and maybe some bird hunting. for the first to uses id like a 18-20" barrel and extended magazine. so my question is would i be better off buying a used 1100 and redoing it how id like it, or saving up and buying a new one? most of the used ones ive find only fire 2.75" shells which isnt a big deal as that'll do the trick ina HD situation. i prefer the look of all black guns so the stock and foregrip would be changed to black. opinions? advice? ideas? am i a idiot? thanks!

zippy13
August 25, 2009, 06:06 PM
i prefer the look of all black guns so the stock and foregrip would be changed to black.
If that means you like the look of matte black metal (like an 870-Express) instead of the typical 1100/11-87 polished blue, then you're probably going to be looking at refinishing the metal as well as a stock swap. IMHO, changing to all black from wood and blued metal would be a significant downgrade. Keep your 1100s and 11-78s for target and field work and if you want a black semi-auto HD gun get one that started out that way.

JWT
August 25, 2009, 06:15 PM
If you buy an 1100 you can do anything you want to it - it's yours. But, I agree with Zippy that you'd be better off to get a different gun in all black and if you get an 1100 leave it in it's original finish. You'd have to refinish all the metal and wood to get what you want in an 1100. They are great guns, very reliable, light recoil. Lots of used ones if you decide you want one to 'work on'.

zippy13
August 25, 2009, 06:22 PM
I'm sure JWT will agree, if you find an 1100/11-87 with termites in the wood and rust weevils on the metal for $1.98, then it's a whole different situation. ;)

stargazer65
August 25, 2009, 08:09 PM
What about a Model 11-87 Sportsman Super Mag Synthetic? They're all black.

minijeff
August 26, 2009, 08:23 AM
There are a few 11-87 models that are all black, with the matte finish as well.

GE-Minigun
August 26, 2009, 01:01 PM
If you look around you can find 1100's pretty cheap...granted they're beat to snot and back but they can be found for under $200. Get one and do what you want with it.

Nowhere Man
August 26, 2009, 02:40 PM
What's the difference between an 1100 and 11-87?


Dave

TJH3781
August 26, 2009, 03:34 PM
I have owned an 1100-3" for 30+ years & it is wonderful for hunting Waterfowl, Pheasants, & Deer. Mine started as a 30" Full & eventually became a 24" when the switch to Steel Shot came about. It currently has a fiberglass stock & I use Hastings Barrels (26" & 22" Rifled). Other than cleaning, all I have ever replaced are the 'O' ring seals in the gas mechanism & you can buy them at the local hardware store.

Personally, I would not use a HD/SD shotgun for hunting; a magazine extension will draw the attention of any Warden in the area. Also, if you use the shotgun for hunting, you may forget to install the plug which can be expensive. Years ago a friend did this & the fine was $100.00/round & they kept the gun.

Last, there is no mistaking the sound of someone racking a 12 gauge round into the chamber in a HD/SD situation.

nutty ned
August 26, 2009, 05:54 PM
Nowhere Man
What's the difference between an 1100 and 11-87?
Some beefed up parts in the 11-87 plus a compensated gas system so it will fire the lightest to the heaviest loads.

zippy13
August 26, 2009, 06:18 PM
What's the difference between an 1100 and 11-87?

Dave, there are many answers to your question. As I recall, back in '87, the main answer was "an improved gas system." If the 11-87 was just a typical on-going improvement of the 1100, then why did Remington continue to make the 1100? From the links below, you can see that you're not the only one who's curious.
1. 870 or 1100 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284253&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
2. Looking at 1100 and 11-87 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268829&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
3. 1187/1100 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263315&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
4. 1100 vs 1187 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227075&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
5. Is the 1100 G3 the Death Knell of the 11-87? (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207515&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
6. 1100 & 11-87: what are the differences between them? (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191300&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
7. Rem 1100 or Rem 11/87?? (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180938&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
8. what's difference between rem 1100 and 11-87? (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139045&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
9. Remington 1100 1187 Competition Conversion (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130258&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
10. Rem. 1100 vs. 1187 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126418&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
11. Remington 1100 and the 1187 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77692&highlight=1100+%2B1187)..
12. Does anyone actually like 11-87 design? (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11559&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
13. Remington 1100 and 1187 (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11404&highlight=1100+%2B1187)
14. Rem 1100 vs. 1187
(http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10932&highlight=1100+%2B1187)

Recoiljunkie44
August 28, 2009, 07:51 PM
I really like the 1100 action but my brother had a 12 gauge 1100 that just couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with. He however has a 20 gauge lightweight 1100 that I can't miss with! But really love that lightweight model! I say its the perfect all around gun for doves pheasents and all the others that flies and dies!

rugerfreak
August 28, 2009, 09:47 PM
Here ya go:

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_1100/model_1100_tactical.asp


Just buy one of these and be done with it.