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ga nopro
August 20, 2009, 08:28 PM
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bamafan4life
August 20, 2009, 08:59 PM
All i can say is u'd be the biggest idiot i know to donate that gun, from the pics and ur description, and the condition i can tell that it's in it could probly be the most valued possesion u have. we need better pics, maybe of the overall gun? and look for riting along the barrel.

Inspector3711
August 20, 2009, 09:19 PM
Yes... Pics of the whole action and the whole rifle.

Jim Watson
August 20, 2009, 09:23 PM
I think you have a Zulu.
It started out as a Belgian breechloading conversion of a
French or Belgian military rifle musket, as did the American Trapdoor or even closer to the British Snider, which opened sideways like that. After it was obsoleted by repeaters, it was reamed smoothbore and cut down into an inexpensive shotgun. It was cheap then, it does not have a lot of resale value now, there was one on GunsAmerica going begging for $225. Hang it on the wall and make up stories about it.

JohnKSa
August 20, 2009, 10:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabati%C3%A8re_rifle
http://www.militaryrifles.com/France/Tabatier.htm
As Jim notes, many were converted to smoothbore, usually 12ga and sold as "Zulu shotguns".

Tamara
August 21, 2009, 07:09 AM
Yup, sporterized Tabatier. An interesting wallhanger, but not particularly valuable.

jsmaye
August 21, 2009, 08:44 AM
All i can say is u'd be the biggest idiot i know to donate that gun

You can donate something to a museum without actually transferring ownership. Maybe this guy is not as materialistic as you.

Mike Irwin
August 21, 2009, 10:26 AM
Value on these guns is seldom very high, which leads me to believe that this is NOT the most valuable possession that you own, probably not even close.

There were literally millions made, generally very cheaply, and they were sold very cheaply. Bannerman catalogs from the era show that in spades.

I have books that are worth far more than that.

ga nopro
August 21, 2009, 01:11 PM
I have a gun but have no idea what it's history is. Should I hang it on a wall or donate it to some museum? OAL is 47 1/2", Barrel is 29 3/4, LOP is 13 1/4. The top of the butt plate is US stamped. Clear Liege stamp but numbers on the barrel are not distinguishable. Very large smooth bore barrel is choked the last 3/4". "Rear sight" is nothing more than a rough, filed 1/4" grove. Any more help from you guys will be much appreciated!

Jim Watson
August 21, 2009, 01:36 PM
Just confirms conclusions from your previous thread.
The picture of the lock will let somebody with good references identify which European rifle musket was turned into a Zulu shotgun.

Tamara
August 21, 2009, 02:13 PM
Threads merged.

ga nopro
August 21, 2009, 04:43 PM
Hey, thanks a bunch guys! Zulu shotgun it is then. I'd hang it on my wall but every time I looked at it I'd have to think of bamafan4life learning to spell real words. :rolleyes: Cheers!