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Van55
August 17, 2009, 02:52 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32426383/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

Interesting article. The guy used an unlicensed shotgun in New York City. Will he get the same treatment as Plaxico Burress?

flyguyskt
August 17, 2009, 03:03 PM
Thank who ever you pray to that the innocent people here all came out okay.
unlicensed shotgun! please read this as "we have to have something to pin on him"

good job "GUS"...bag em and taggem

THEZACHARIAS
August 17, 2009, 03:11 PM
Wow. And all without being injured himself. He and his employees are alive and all it cost him was a 20 year old shotgun.

Someone buy that man another shotgun!

Crosshair
August 17, 2009, 04:54 PM
Someone buy that man another shotgun!
If he solicited donations he would probably be able to afford a dozen.

onthejon55
August 18, 2009, 01:53 AM
Someone buy that man another shotgun!

I dnt know about a shotgun but i would buy him a beer!

Dingoboyx
August 18, 2009, 03:27 AM
Believe it or not, I read about this shooting in our local newspaper (prolly the anti's wanted to prove how bad guns are):rolleyes:

Sorry, but my thoughts are, those mothers that now dont have sons, should have taught thier sons not to steal, then they would still have sons.

The shop keeper was not only defending himself & his business, but most importantly, his employees from iminent harm.... he should be nominated for "Boss of the year" in my opinion...... If I were a shotgun manufacturer or big gun shop chain owner, I would be giving him the pick of my shop, I reckon :D (I would be hiding the REALLY expensive ones tho) :eek::D

Good on him, I reckon......

Criminals.... LEARN.... stealing brings bad Ju-Ju :D Get a real job :D

Jim March
August 18, 2009, 03:54 AM
At least one update says he DID do all the paperwork 20 years ago, and for a shotgun (as opposed to a handgun!) didn't need to re-do it. So he's completely legal.

Doesn't mean NYPD will give his shotgun BACK mind you...but he's not looking at the crossbar hotel.

Dingoboyx
August 18, 2009, 04:04 AM
^ great news^

Now give the guy back his gun!:D

LanceOregon
August 18, 2009, 08:05 AM
Amazingly, New York authorities released one the 4 robbers ( who was the least seriously wounded ) out of jail on $60,000 bail Sunday.

See these web pages for details:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/08/17/2009-08-17_gus_rob_suspect_freed_on_60g_bail.html

http://www.newsday.com/nyc-man-shot-by-store-owner-free-on-bond-1.1373902


Here is a photo of NY City Police Officer's seizing Augusto's Winchester shotgun for evidence:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08142009/photos/cop_carries_shotgun.jpg

Dingoboyx
August 20, 2009, 02:26 AM
Seems strange how the laws favor the bad guy ain't it??!:eek:

Same here in Oz... it depends entirely on how much lawyer you are packing :mad:

LanceOregon
August 20, 2009, 02:58 AM
The world is becoming so corrupt and immoral that it is unbelievable.

Later today the British will release one of the Lockerbie 747 bombers from prison, on "humanitarian" grounds.

259 Americans died on the plane, and another 11 Scots died on the ground in Lockerbie from the bomb he planted.

Cannot people tell the difference between good and evil anymore??

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bds32
August 20, 2009, 02:23 PM
A good reminder on what an outstanding self-defense tool the shotgun is. One good guy armed with a shotgun against four bad guys with handguns. Superior mindset coupled with superior firepower ruled the day.

Crosshair
August 20, 2009, 08:08 PM
I wonder what kind of ammo he had the gun loaded with? Birdshot? Buckshot?

BloodyBucket03
August 20, 2009, 09:23 PM
Those scumbags got what they deserved! The other 2 low lifes that survived are lucky their not taking a dirt nap right now! Gus is a true American Patriot in my opinion. Give that man back his Shotgun!

isanchez2008
August 20, 2009, 09:41 PM
Please keep the "they got what they deserved" comments down. I may agree with you but threads get closed that way. It's a good thing the innocents came out ok. Keep in mind that just because one man was able to pull off an incredible save with a shotgun that doesn't mean you will. Train, seek professional training and spend more money shooting than you do buying new toys. Unless your rich ;)

Rich Keagy
August 23, 2009, 07:24 PM
I don't agree that one shotgun is superior to four handguns.
The lads clearly weren't expecting the gentleman's response. That worked to Gus' advantage.
So how come the two breathing boys were not charged with homicide? They would here in California.

Hallucinator
August 27, 2009, 08:18 AM
The article says they won't file charges. When they start pistol whipping your employees, it's time to get the shotgun. He did the right thing.

xjmox14x
August 27, 2009, 08:59 AM
Agreed. I was actually about 10 blocks from where it happened (construction management working at a jobsite). The one thing about NYC is that it has a lot of "grandfather laws". With the age and amount of history around here, it's very hard to "change" everything to bring it up to today's standards...with everything ranging from zoning laws and fire alarms to what you see here being gun laws. Anyway, good job lad, textbook example of why you keep a shotgun for 20 years and people say "you've had it for 20 years and you've never needed it once...". Well, one day he did, and he was ready.

Re4mer
August 28, 2009, 08:13 AM
Police said Augusto didn't have a required permit for the weapon used in the headline-grabbing shooting the Daily News called a "Pump-Action Ending."

This statement puzzled me the most. Who ever heard of a shotgun permit? I think the laws of NY are responsible for a lot of good men being unable to legally defend themselves.

Silvanus
September 4, 2009, 05:11 PM
He handled that shotgun well for not having trained with it since he bought it 20 years ago:eek: