Welcome Hardy

[Smokin_Gun]

Welcome Hardy the Twin Brother of Smokin' Gun in S.C.

I have Mortally wounded Smokin' Gun in a Gunfight on a dusty street. It was somethin' that could't be helped...he winged me in the left rib cage and healing nicely.
Sorry about your Brother Hardy:O(

So you are taken over The Smokin' Gun Shop in S.C.?

SG:cool:

[Hardy]

Yeah, Smokin. But don't know what do wif it. i shoot guns--don't fix um. Back in the war we'd shoot um pick up fresh ones all over the battle field. I had a crate of em. never took a wedge out--maybe swabbed the barrel--but i'd just throw em away when they broke. But bro's got customers t need a gunsmith and" consultant"--dang,didn't know I knew a big word--gotta write dat one down. I guess daddy might want me to giv that shop to someone that has better sense than me---So I guess you need to come take it over.

The hammer has a round protrusion on it's right side cut in at an angle. I can only guess that it has something to do with trigger and spring.

WBHARDY

[mykeal]

That 'protrusion' is called a cam, and it engages one leg of the trigger/bolt spring. It is the genius in Mr. Sam's single action design.

[Hardy]

Ok Smokin and McKeal--- I clean nipples with a pipe cleaner soaked in 100 proof vodka. Before reassembling them into the cylinder, I put just a touch of 3&1 oil on the threads so they don't freeze in the chambers. The chambers were cleaned w/ ballistol -water mix then dried out with Q tips. Is this a good idea?

[Smokin_Gun]

Well the Vodka may work well specially if yer a sippin it ... :O). But I jus' soakeverythin' in hot soapy water and scrub with a nylon cleain' brish ... When dry, jus' touch the threads with a dab of oil on ly finger and thread back in snug never tight.

On the hammer I'd have to see the gin, new hammer and bolt ect. I could try to help but the shippin' would burn up any profit for you.
Now ifin ya sent me gas money or a plain ticket... :eek:LOL!:cool:

[mykeal]

The idea is right but the execution is a bit weird. Plain old rubbing alcohol is a lot less expensive.

As for the oil, that's ok too, but there are slightly better alternatives. It's probably less expensive than anti-seize grease but there is a possible drawback. It's a petroleum distillate (although a very pure one), so if exposed to high enough temperatures it could partially burn and leave behind tar-like compounds. Those compounds may not be a problem in this application, however, as they will also prevent corrosion that could lock up the nipple threads. T/C's Gorilla Grease is not petroleum based so the possibility of a problem is eliminated. If the oil has been working for you I'd keep using it, but if you've noticed any tar the flash channel you might want to change.

[Hardy]

rubbing alcohol has other agents. I learned this from a tobacconist--who cleans all his pipes with everclear and said don't use anyything but pure n(everclear) alcohol or 100 proof vodka at the minimum.Rubbin alcohol is a no-no and so is 80 proof vodca. EVERCLEAR my friends -I salute you! But we're tallkin about a smokin pipe. It could be all related. Maybe not. I remember when I was in school down in Georgia, a friend and hunter had a Remington 1858 and he soaked his nipples in everclear. this guy was still fighting the Civil War and his granddady told him akll kind of stuff so I bet back then they used moonshine whiskey to clean off that BP. I really do--now that I reflect back!
WBH

[Smokin_Gun]

Well I've always been fond of EverClear ... and woulda probly gone blind drinkin' moonshine... :O)
Good suggestion Hardy sounds pure to me...:eek:

[Hardy]

I've heard it all! I was about to post again that maybe pure grain alcohol is not good for steel and bluin. A reanactor came into the store and looked at our REMs. he wasn't sure they would pass for competition era shootin. I agreed and said the stainless steel Rem probably won't since stainless wasn't available in the day. After a brief discuss about clean/lube---- He said his regiment made up their own cleaning solution. And it was made with carburator cleaner/ alcohol/ammonia petoleum oil and some other secret stuff. Now ...Just bein' me... how does that fit in with the era!?:eek:

WBH

[Hardy]

And Smokin---They do like those Rems---or the 1860 army colts. Um---they be both expensive---except for the Johnny Reb Brass frames. I told you I decided on a whim to dip my toes into a lake of cold water. Now I'm way below my waist!:D Throw me a rope!!

WBH

[Smokin_Gun]

Well Hardy if ya promise not to try and drown me like a Coon would a Black & Tan in a stream I'd jump in and grab ya. What do you need?
How many new Brassers do you have? When you sell one, take that money and get a Used Steel Rem or 1860 on Gunbroker or Auctionarms for "less" than you made on that new Brasser you sold. Buy it only if it can be returned after a 3 day inspection. Sell that Used in good condition steel Rem for as much as you sell the Brassers for so you are makin' a profit and still selliin' Steel framed guns for the price of(or a lil' more)than a new Brasser. And if someone wants a new Steel frame jus' charge for shipping and maybe a 3-5% markup...see if that helps any.
Jus' a thought...

[Hardy]

got a lyman 1860 army w/nichol backstrap and trigger guard. Do you want it. It's comin in Fri--never been fired. It'll be around 300

WBH

[Hardy]

I mean 290 to you, Smokin:D

[Hardy]

NO Smokin-ain't gonna drown you! I'm just tryin to figure out what all you pros like and the guys that walk in the shop are wantin and willin to buy. And most of the good guns(On all internet posts) are already sold, or askin too much. Can't find 2 or 3 generation colts anymore-Yet- that haven't already been sold at reasonable prices. Yes, you see them posted but most are gone or priced too high . Are the prices goin up or just gettin bought up cheap?. You know I have a small collection. I'd sell them for 25% more than what I paid for um(except my R.E.LEE:D) but do you think hangin on to them is a good idea. That Lyman is supposed to be a good un--I'll get yu a pic when it comes in:) Actually, it seems they want small guns like pockets and sheriffs(They too are expensive) WBH

[madcratebuilder]

I remember when I was in school down in Georgia, a friend and hunter had a Remington 1858 and he soaked his nipples in everclear

I remember drinking some everclear and then soaking my nipples in it!:eek:

[Smokin_Gun]

I could tell y'all a story about nipples and Bourbon, but that was a bachlor party... kinda off topic :O)
I jus' clean um in scaldin' hot soapy water, an, rince water.

[Hardy]

That Lyman 1860 colt is comin in tommorrow:D Supposedly made in the 70's. Never knew Lyman made em. It's nichol trigger guard and backstrap. Is that a goodun for $225 or should I send it back. You know!: Just ordering projectiles, powder etc will break yor arm. Muzzleloading seaon starts here in Oct. All the stores around have quit stockin BP stuff except Academy. We have done as much advertising and word of mouth that we can and afford. I just hope and pray that hunters and bp shooters will start comin in soon:confused: And hope my daughter's built up display of handmade jewelry and limited antiques will crank a few dollars. It does look better than the video back in May:)

wbh

[Hardy]

Hey---I want to hear the story about nipples and bourbon

[Smokin_Gun]

Billy that Lyman you'll probly want to keep for yourself... but it should sell pretty quick.

I knew you'd ask about the nipples cleaned with Bourbon without a drop wasted...the secret of not wasting not is between me the stripper, and the rest of the Groom to be's party members :P) (twas a steady hand, her good aim, and my dedication to drinkin' Jack Daniels )
:O)

[mykeal]

Never knew Lyman made em.
Lyman is an importer, not a manufacturer. Their current product line is made by Investarms in Italy. The revolvers have all been discontinued; I believe Uberti was the manufacturer of most of them.

[Smokin_Gun]

Billy if you have an interested buyer for certain I can send either one to you...for what we agree upon and you deal with +whatever % above the cost you want to charge for it.
Here's some Pics...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colt%202nd%20Gen%201862%20Pocket%20Police/Colt2ndfGen2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colt%202nd%20Gen%201862%20Pocket%20Police/Colt2ndGen62BSSil.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colt%202nd%20Gen%201862%20Pocket%20Police/Colt2ndfGen6.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/ColtSigDrg/ColtSigDrg1.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/ColtSigDrg/ColtSigDrg3.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/ColtSigDrg/ColtSigDrg4.jpg

[Hardy]

Smokin--the Lyman came in and looks real good but the cylinder rattles a little when you shake it. I guess I could tighten it up but looks like it has been stored awhile and fired. Don't want to break anything on it. It has a silver plated backstrap and trigger guard. Just a hint of cylinder rotation line over bolt but other than that -looks good. If someone doesn't buy it by Sat evening I'm gonna return it. Asking $300. By the way, did you get my PMessage on yer guns? I think we can work something out where neither be hurt and both gain. Write me.

The Twin--HE HE good name I just thought up

[Smokin_Gun]

I answered the PM...Thanks

[Hardy]

Well, I do understand--had a better day at the store in a good while. Actually sold the 3rd gen51 colt navy.:D:D Now, I've been in Cap and Ball School for 5 months now and I need at least a C to go on to next semester w/ daddy payin. An F+ or D- won't get it. So either flunk me out or giv me at least a c- And I also want a nice big certificate to hang on my wall since I'm spoiled. D:D

PM me again and we''l talk what I learned today. A guy is goin to the big BP shootout in Tenn., shortly. Ya'll know anything bout that?

Wild Billy

[Hardy]

I mean't to answer as "The Twin" I guess that goes my chances for upgradin and a certificate. Dang it! I want that cerificate or my daddy ain't gonna give me his railroad money Ok , I know what you're gonna say: 2 chances for it -"Slim and None":(

The Twin

[Hardy]

Smokin-got your guns offered. :D The Police is a goodun!

I ain't gettin no certificate?

THe Twin

[Smokin_Gun]

Thanks Hardy ... there's a paper from Colt in the original box I don't know what you call it.
But I certify you anyway :O)

SG

[Hardy]

there should be 2 brochures attached to the underside of the lid.

I know I'm certified:D But not yet certified in BP---still goin to school. I just wanted a promotion to the next semester. A small certificate will do. (Something like this: Billy has learned a little bit about BP revolvers and can shoot one safely. He has been able to hit beer cans at 35 ft away without hurting himself or anyone else):D

The Twin

[Smokin_Gun]

Yup them are there along with one in an envelope...

[Hardy]

Smokin...helloo. I too want to sell some guns to give me somethin to keep the wolf from the door.But the nice ones and antiques I don't think are marketable at this time in my store. Brassers!!! are what they are buying. I grew up in the south and shot guns all my life until I discovered golf:D I feel I now know less than I did about these here guns than I did 6 mo's ago. Or learning too much!?. The story of my life: Never liked book learning --had to do it myself. Had to learn my own way. Well, anyway you and everyone else here has been a great learning experience-and I thank you. What about that piece posted on the BP thread? Of couse the nichol is gone, it's OLD. I want to know what you think:confused::)

The Twin

[Smokin_Gun]

Hardy I jus' had 11 Revs posted for sale on 3 sites including this one ... they are all gone now.
I'm sorry you missed the Backyard BP Rev Sale...

[Hardy]

Smokin---did yu read great granpa's brother's letter on the "cleanin post" I'm lookin thru a bunch of them and Ima gonna find one that talks about these REVS. Great news on you selling pistols-hope you made out good. Seriously, I do. if you know anyone that wants that original pocket(Nichol mostly gone) but still intact & operational on the BP shop site---and that conversion pocket you saw--let me know. I bought those guns to show in the shop. They help---but don't want then after Christmas. The 2 Rem 1858's were made by Palmetto. I know no one likes those here in this room--but they look, feel, cock ok. Still in the boxes. I'm asking 239 for each. That can't be too bad for retail.
The Twin

[Hardy]

Um , I only cocked one that is in display--the other is still wrapped in plastic w/factory grease in box and never been out of it.
The Twin, agin