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possum272
July 29, 2009, 05:58 PM
(Introducing the easiest, most accurate full auto type trigger system in the world. This incredible system allows you to pull your own trigger and shoot single shots, bursts or empty complete mags at a full automatic rate, legally and accurately. It’s all metal construction goes on or off in seconds, and works on most any semi-automatic rifle or pistol. Installs in seconds and comes with it’s own installation wrench. Can be shot from any position. *Easy to install - mounts in seconds *Versatile - one unit fits most weapons *Legal - comes with certificate *Accurate - can be fired from semi-autos *Tough - all metal construction Fits: AR15, AK47/MAK90, SKS, 10/22, Mini 14/30 and most other rifles pistols and submachine guns.)(www.firequest.com/catalog/AB225moreifno.html)

Anyone ever heard of this?
and is it really legal?

Superhouse 15
July 29, 2009, 06:54 PM
Welcome.

Looks like another device to help you bump-fire. There have been similar designs in the past, probably the most well known is the "Hell Fire" system. There are letters from The Man stating that they are legal, but don't forget about the infamous shoelace machinegun. They could declare it illegal tomorrow, or you could get caught with it when someone sees or hears you shooting and calls the law and then have to prove that it is indeed a legal device. In my opinion an ammo waster.

Dustin0
July 29, 2009, 06:58 PM
I have one just like that collecting dust in the safe never go around to putting on a 10/22.

AMX
July 29, 2009, 07:36 PM
Yes it's legal, it's also junk. If it wasn't junk it probably wouldn't be legal. If you want to bumpfire save the $35 bucks and just bumpfire the old fashion way.

I'm ashamed to say I bought one of those back before we were allowed to have MG's here in MI. It's cheap tin parts bend out of shape when you try to adjust it. Trust me, it's junk.

5whiskey
July 30, 2009, 09:15 AM
I've never used one, but I've heard they are all pretty much junk. FA fire is pretty much useless except for a very few applications that most of us will never see. It sure is fun, though:D

At any rate, as fun as FA fire is I can't afford it. Well, maybe on a .22 but I don't think a bump fire device would work on a 22. After all, it uses the recoil to pull the trigger faster than what would otherwise be possible. Since .22s have virtually no recoil I wouldn't think that it would work. IDK, you may get it to but I wouldn't waste the money.

Tom Servo
July 30, 2009, 12:02 PM
I was told by an ATF agent last week that those are now considered NFA items. Apparently, GAT triggers, Hellfire and anything of the sort is now illegal. He mentioned that the crank mechanisms were OK, but stuff like this apparently constitutes modification.

I'll see if I can find the relevant memo and I'll post it here.

Csspecs
July 30, 2009, 03:13 PM
Well its not on the ATFs website that I know of... But the devices don't work all that well.

now the akins device and the awsims are regulated by the NFA, but that is because they actually work as a machine gun.

Tucker 1371
July 30, 2009, 03:24 PM
I want to find something like this that works, install it and an MG42 kit on my 10/22 :D.

Hkmp5sd
July 30, 2009, 03:35 PM
Fits: AR15, AK47/MAK90, SKS, 10/22, Mini 14/30 and most other rifles pistols and submachine guns.

Why would you want one that fits submachineguns?

Tucker 1371
July 30, 2009, 05:10 PM
I wondered about the submachinegun thing too... poor word choice.

This video on youtube shows this thing completely failing to function as advertised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah9WDmjiwdQ