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B. Lahey
July 25, 2009, 09:15 PM
Bars seem like relatively high-risk areas, what common barroom object do you guys think would be best to jump behind if things were to turn ugly?

Pool-table?

The bar?

Would one of those tall electronic dartboards stop anything?

How about a video game machine?

Old-school jukebox? Newer jukebox?

hogdogs
July 25, 2009, 09:18 PM
typically I rush the closest participant and commence landing bombs...
But if that doesn't sound like fun right then... I would either hide behind the biggest sum buck (I hide real easy being fairly slight in dimensions) or better yet hide behind the front door as you scoot boots for the ride outta there!
Brent

Composer_1777
July 25, 2009, 09:19 PM
In metro areas most bars have a security detail or bouncers. no figts or u get thrown out. Hell, I've been thrown out of bars all over the place even in other countries, lol and never had to throw a punch.

Sefner
July 25, 2009, 09:21 PM
The bar itself would be a pretty good one depending on the angles of the shooters.

Jukeboxes may or may not stop boolletts, but a heavy jacket plus a jukebox just might do the trick.

More importantly is what NOT to hide behind: tables (tables do not generally stop boollets) and other people (that's just cold... just kidding, that actually might work).

MLeake
July 25, 2009, 09:27 PM
I'll just hide behind Norm, and let Cliffie talk the brawlers to sleep.

B. Lahey
July 25, 2009, 09:27 PM
Well, yeah, it's obviously best to get the heck out of there if you have any kind of warning. I left a bar early just last night because things looked questionable. The situation I'm thinking of is somebody opening fire without warning. A lot of bars are kind of tight, so you could have multiple objects to jump behind...

I could see using a bouncer like spacemanspiff as cover, but not all security dudes offer that much ballistic protection.:D

Brian Pfleuger
July 25, 2009, 09:32 PM
Been in a bar twice in my life. Second time ended up with a guy landing a punch on a cop and guns drawn. There won't be a third time. No better cover than not being there.

Catfishman
July 25, 2009, 09:33 PM
The ladies room:)

Chuck Dye
July 25, 2009, 09:57 PM
An exit, one you know is not blocked. If you doubt me, run a search on The Station and Great White Fire. Not all your risks are drunken humans.

SAIGAFISH
July 25, 2009, 10:00 PM
IM with peet just stay out of bars

James K
July 25, 2009, 10:08 PM
1. Avoid that kind of bar.

2. If you disregard 1, and you have enough time to get behind something, you probably have enough time to get out the door. Do so.

There was once a place in this area that was so bad folks said they had a metal detector at the door. If you weren't armed, they wouldn't let you in.

Jim

sakeneko
July 25, 2009, 11:27 PM
Bars seem like relatively high-risk areas, what common barroom object do you guys think would be best to jump behind if things were to turn ugly?

The door, if you can reach it. :D

WIN71
July 25, 2009, 11:34 PM
Always sit next to a fat gal. You’d be surprised how much trouble that will keep you out of.

Xyas
July 25, 2009, 11:36 PM
I would recommend against arcade machines. Most of them are basically hollow and wouldn't provide much protection at all. The best thing to do would be to get out of there, like previous posters have mentioned.

WeedWacker
July 26, 2009, 02:22 AM
Isn't the primary use of cover not so much to stop a bullet, which is preferable, but to conceal your exact location? So tipping a couple of tables over, peeking out and making a break for the door would probably be the best bet if you are unarmed.

Or have the poker game and drinks at home with friends which would be my preference.

kozak6
July 26, 2009, 05:15 AM
I think the best cover would be behind the back door. Far behind the back door. The farther the better, even.

Isn't the primary use of cover not so much to stop a bullet, which is preferable, but to conceal your exact location?

No. Cover and concealment, when used to refer to tactical situations, have specific definitions.

Cover is specifically defined as something that stops bullets.

robmkivseries70
July 26, 2009, 10:04 AM
The best defense is not to be there when the punch is thrown.
Best,
Rob

Ian0351
July 26, 2009, 10:17 AM
"Well I was cuttin' a rug down at a place called the Jug..."

Anyway... the bar is your best bet, and a good heavy table can be flipped over... but if one person can do so it ain't stopping any bullets. My advice is stay behind someone wider than thyself... Like Brent, I am on the 'trim' side so there are always a few good options. Fortunately, none of the barfights I've been in have involved guns, not that getting hit with a pool cue is any fun.

"Cuz I'm a tellin' ya son, that it ain't no fun, starin' straight down a .44..."

jjwestbrook
July 26, 2009, 10:24 AM
I agree with several posters my favorite cover is about 2 miles of space. Since i can't carry in em I don't go there.

jc650
July 26, 2009, 03:50 PM
If you perceive the bar to be that much of a risk you probably shouldnt go. After about 10 drinks your probably not thinkin much about it anymore anyway. I dont recall ever having to hide at a bar in my life or take cover or whatever you want to call it.

curt.45
July 26, 2009, 04:02 PM
great. just great. next time I'm in a bar and a fight breaks out I'm gonna have a bunch of guys trying to hide behind me and me trying to get my fat butt over the bar rail. :eek:

Steve1911
July 26, 2009, 09:56 PM
I learned a long time ago that alcohol gives people "false courage" and tequila makes some people mean.

Best to avoid the places all together... :D

Run is the 2nd best option... moving targets are harder to hit.

Especially if they are a little drunk:D

Frank Ettin
July 26, 2009, 11:07 PM
....what common barroom object do you guys think would be best to jump behind if things were to turn ugly?...The bartender?:D

Anyway, it really depends on the bar and its layout. My first choice would be to get out. Failing that, I'd look for something solid and substantial.

CorpITGuy
July 27, 2009, 09:26 PM
Since bars are victim zones in nearly every state, I avoid them when I can. (Disclaimer: sometimes it's unavoidable due to business).

Wanna get drunk? It's cheaper (and safer) at home. You can even have all your buddies over. Make them buy beer. :)

Wobble
July 27, 2009, 09:39 PM
The front door is a great place to be behind -- on the outside side.

Wildalaska
July 27, 2009, 10:36 PM
I was in this bar in Tibet one night when a bunch of Nazis walked in with MP40s and started blasting. I had to take cover behind an overturned table and I returned fire with my Hipower and the endless magazine. I set a fire too.

WildthenmyadventurescontiunedfortwomorehoursAlaska TM

MLeake
July 27, 2009, 10:39 PM
... your woman had to bail you out.

For a hottie, she can drink and throw a good punch, WA.

MlovedthatmoviesinceiwasinjuniorhighLeake

Hellbilly5000
July 28, 2009, 01:57 AM
I learned a long time ago that alcohol gives people "false courage" and tequila makes some people mean.

Best to avoid the places all together...

Run is the 2nd best option... moving targets are harder to hit.

Especially if they are a little drunk

I know from experience chasing drunks through Korea when I was an mp

1) they run faster then they think there running
2) there is no such thing as a straight line or even close to it
3)its normally easiest to pace them and wait for them to run into a telephone pole/parked car/ fence that just jumped right out in front of them

back on topic if the shtf in a bar I will go out the nearest exit no matter what kind of exit it is window firedoor back door through the kitchen

on the note of hiding behind someone I am 6'3 There aint very many people I can hide behind where my head aint above theres

meanoldman
July 28, 2009, 01:56 PM
I usually pull my wife in front of me and use her shoulder as a rest.

grymster2007
July 28, 2009, 03:35 PM
When the shooting commences, I calmly order another drink (usually a double), sit back and watch the fun. That's why I like bars with big mirrors behind the bar... don't even need to swivel my barstool around....

.... "more pretzels please!" :)

markj
July 28, 2009, 03:53 PM
Years ago in my Dads bar I was bouncing, a little teeny dude was whipping rear on the pool table, a guy lost and wanted to beat his head in the teeny dude gets behind me grabbing my shirt pushing me at the big dude. I was laffing so hard at this, the big guy circling me trying to hit the teeny guy who is trying to keep me in front of him. I made em play the game over, teeny guy won again, big guy left in a huff.

Bar fights are usually over some stupid event like losing at pool. or looking at a guys lady too hard, had to break up a lot of em, next day all involved (cept me) act like they knew it too.

Never in my life seen a huge brawl like the movies tho.

Had a guy claim he "cleared" bars, but when he hit me upside my head I found he was easy to put down :) never met a tough drunk yet. :)

pax
July 28, 2009, 04:13 PM
This thread had potential. It was a good and reasonable question.

It deteriorated into a contest to see who could be the most silly.

Closed for high noise, low signal.

pax