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SteelyNirvana
May 25, 2009, 06:28 PM
Yesterday I bought a Remington model 58 in 12 gauge for $100 from a longtime friend of my family. The reason why he was getting of it is because the bolt won't close unless you release the bolt on a empty or fresh shell that's already in the chamber. The extractor that's closest to the bolt handle is pushing inwards which prevents it from getting in it's resting slot but when it's wrapped around a shell it pushes it outwards enough to get in its resting slot, allowing the bolt to close. I'm posting a pic so you can see exactly what I'm talking about. He said he took it to a gunsmith and he said that they would have to make a part to fix it and would cost about $180, so my friend decided based on the age of the gun he'd be better off to buy a new auto-loader, which he did.

I have three questions I need to ask about this gun. 1) Was the gunsmith right about having to make a part or is it a simple fix that I can buy from Brownells or other online gun-shop? I know the extractor,spring and plunger from a 870 will work but are these the problem or is it something else? 2) My friend said to only shoot lead shot from this gun as it was built before steel came on the market. Can I shoot steel or should I listen to my friend and take it easy and stick with lead? 3) I would like to try to refinish the stock on this myself sometime. Can you recommend a video or good book on the subject so I can get familiar with what it takes and what I need to do it?

Thanks in advance.

Bolt not in battery (empty chamber)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s118/briancraig81/remington582.jpg


Bolt in battery (shell in chamber)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s118/briancraig81/remington583.jpg

Ruger4570
May 25, 2009, 10:19 PM
I certainly am not an ex spurt on your problem, but I did own a Model 58 and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last year for a night.

I would "think" that the bolt parts from an 1100 or 870 would work in the 58.

I also wonder if the recoil spring is either dirty in the stock or worn to where it doesn't have the "oomph" to close the bolt well.

It also seem as though having a hulls rim in place cures the problem, so I again suspect there is something messed up with the extractor, possibly the spring too.

I would definatly take it to another gunsmith or two for a second and third opinion.

Don't shoot steel, the gun was NOT made for it.

Great luck... They were neat guns.

tsgalloway
May 25, 2009, 11:21 PM
I have the same gun. The spring broke and I haven't been able to fix it. A gunsmith told me that he couldn't get the part for it either...

Scorch
May 26, 2009, 11:46 AM
First, completely disassemble the shotgun and clean it, including the action spring in the tube in the buttstock. Then if you decide you need parts, Gun Parts Corporation has the parts you think you need.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=325410G

SteelyNirvana
May 27, 2009, 05:40 AM
Anyone know how to get the bolt out of this gun? I've got it all torn down exept for the bolt, bolt carrier and the arms that are attatched to the piston. I spent an hour messing around with it last night and I can't figure out how to get it out. Is there anyone here who has done this before?

Thanks!

Goatwhiskers
May 27, 2009, 11:10 AM
Pull bolt handle straight out--sometimes a little stiff. Depress shell latch and slide entire assembly forward out of the gun. Here endeth the epistle.

James K
May 27, 2009, 09:40 PM
I suspect that someone tried to "fix" the extractor to get a better grip and either bent it or filed it down so it would sit further in, so now it is hitting the barrel. If only the extractor was changed, it can be replaced. If the bolt was altered, you have a bigger problem but check back after you try a new extractor.

The extractor for a Model 11 should fit OK; you can check www.gunpartscorp.com for availability and price. If you want to try locally, gunsmiths usually keep a good stock of those Remington extractors as they keep popping out, so finding one should not be hard.

(If the extractor fix works, don't forget to clean up any peening the extractor might have caused in the inside of the chamber, otherwise shell extraction could be a problem.)

Jim