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Magnum Wheel Man
April 29, 2009, 11:28 AM
I have several guns that I have the potential to hunt with in the next couple years that are custom, & in need of some sort of metal finish... a good share of them are custom Contender barrels...

I've been hunting with Contenders for years, & for last years deer hunting season I had 2 different actions & barrels out because of the variety of terrain... it sleeted most all week, & between getting soaked, & the humidity in the hunting shack of drying boots & jackets, I had a real hard time fighting rust on my 2 guns...

I have a custom 223 & 280 SPC barrel that need a finish as well...

I've been looking at camo finishes, because some of the deer I hunt, can be almost too close, & for varmint hunting & such, but worry about holstering my 10" Contender, & jogging 60-70 yards down a fire lane to get a better shot, or hiking up a steep bluff ( sometimes almost cliffs ) & getting to the top & realizing that some how I'd dropped my camo colored weapon... I'm not a real big fan of camo colored radios etc... & would prefer a color more easy to see...

anyway... I'm thinking I don't want to do my whole gun in orange camo just in case TSHTF or something, so I've been thinking about camo on the gun, & a matching camo on the grips, only substatuting orange for one of the camo colors, so the gun is camo, but the grips are orange camo... that way if TSHTF I could swap out the grip & fore end for either a matching camo, or black, or wood...

anyone ever do anything similar ???

here is an AR I did up in paint with some ideas... anything I could improve on???

I have a local custom painter that paints my ATV's & is very tallented, & has the equipment & special paint needed to paint the plastic grips, etc.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46246&stc=1&d=1241022637

davlandrum
April 29, 2009, 12:23 PM
AARRGGHHH - MY EYES!!!!!

Sorry, nothing more constructive than that....

Magnum Wheel Man
April 29, 2009, 01:22 PM
Hey that's fair... 1st off I'm not an AR guy, ( I found a pic of an AR that had a similar "pattern" to what think I was looking for...I'm talking mostly Contenders both handguns & Carbines, which would have much simpler lines...

& I'm talking turkey gun "style" camo...

so now that I burned your eyes... help me prevent that in the future ( because there will be pics later ) by helping me "refine" what I'm trying to do here... what do you think think would look better ( even if it isn't your type of thing ) ( camo rifles are not really my kind of thing, I currently don't own any gun that is camo... I don't even like black guns ) differnt "style" of camo different color scheme ???

Dingoboyx
April 29, 2009, 01:27 PM
Looks like someone was eating a pizza and puked on your gun..... sorry :eek::D

fbrown333@suddenlink
April 29, 2009, 01:29 PM
I wouldn't do it for the turkey gun but for some of the others it might be ok. They are your firearms and you can do what you want. Turkeys see color very well and would likely spot you with the orange. I try not to miss match my camo when ever possible (makes you kinda stand out) in my opinion. It will let other hunters be more likely to see you though( could be good could be bad).

hogdogs
April 29, 2009, 02:37 PM
Go digital style... easy to do...
Go to a hobby shop dealing in planes and cars of the R/C type. They should have a display of metal plate and tube in brass and other metal.
A few square tubes of various size and some manilla folders will make templates. Punching the holes takes a sharpened end that will need redone several times. Use a backer plate of several layers of cardboard that you can replace if needed.
The trick is not to make just a square but using the same size tube (smalltube) punch a square corner above a larger square etc. Look at digital camo images for ideas.
Spray entire surface with your orange first and nearly cover it with your camo colors...
Brent

davlandrum
April 29, 2009, 03:14 PM
If I was going to go camo on a gun, I would go Vietnam tiger-stripe because I think it looks cool. Digital camo does nothing for me.

One solution (instead of blaze orange) might be to put a lanyard ring on your contender and use a lanyard (in the Army, we called them "dummy cords").

Just a thought

hogdogs
April 29, 2009, 03:33 PM
Dav, please enlighten me... what does a piece of parachute cord have in common with a paintjob?:o
I am thinking he means a visible gun for safety sake not a gun tied to yer wrist in case you drop it in like colored leaves:D I know of a camo pocket knife lost in low light that could have used a "sissy strap"...
Brent

davlandrum
April 29, 2009, 03:40 PM
Brent,

getting to the top & realizing that some how I'd dropped my camo colored weapon... I'm not a real big fan of camo colored radios etc... & would prefer a color more easy to see...


That is exactly why he wanted it orange. Or at least the way I understood the OP.

Dave

hogdogs
April 29, 2009, 03:45 PM
OOps, my mistake....:o
Brent

davlandrum
April 29, 2009, 03:47 PM
Brent,

Sometimes I get lucky while dispensing my pearls of wisdom, sometimes not...:p

Magnum Wheel Man
April 29, 2009, 03:50 PM
I wanted some orange on it in case it got dropped from the holster...

a lanyard has other issues though... if it was attached to my wrist, it would keep me from holstering it, to use my hands for climbing, if it was attached to the holster, it would have to be long enough to extend to my reach, & would then always be getting tangled in the thick brush...

I do have a hammer loop ( I'm using a cowboy rig :rolleyes: ) but if I had the gun out, & reholstered it while moving through some thick brush quickly, I might forget to put the hammer loop back on...

shortwave
April 29, 2009, 03:50 PM
As fbrown333 referred to, paint blaze orange on a turkey gun and you`ll surely come home with empty pockets. As far as your color scheme ,w e l l, I`ll just say if it makes you happy, it tickle`s me greatly;).

Magnum Wheel Man
April 29, 2009, 03:56 PM
sorry... I used turkey as an example... the guns would all be used for big game hunting, or varmints...

as for the little bit of orange ??? in the fall might not be so bad, you have summac & red oak & maple leaves with similar color...

last year while deer hunting in a "fab in place" blind on a fallen oak, I had litterally 20 turkeys go right over the top of me... I was laying on the ground in a blaze orange coveralls :confused:

davlandrum
April 29, 2009, 03:59 PM
Best set up for a lanyard (my opinion) is tied chest high on your pack strap, or even through a chest pocket button hole. From there, you need very little slack in it to go from holster to draw.

Anyway, I will let you get back to the painting discussion after I totally took a left turn on this...:o

Daryl
April 29, 2009, 04:00 PM
I painted one rifle with a really nice camo pattern. Never again.

The paint chips, and rubs off fairly easily, and isn't necessary in any way, shape, or form.

If your gun is shiney, wrap some black, brown, or green vet wrap around it. It's available at your local feed store, comes off easily, and leaves no mess on the firearm.

Seriously though, I've been pretty close to a lot of game, and never had a problem with them noticing my rifle. They'll see your face or movement first.

Daryl

Magnum Wheel Man
April 29, 2009, 04:11 PM
I'm as much concerned about corrosion resistance as anything ( those engraved mountain lions on the sides of the action will draw rust very very easily on even a well oiled gun if out in the rain / sleet all day...

the guy I know could do the "Dura Kote" type paint on both the metal the plastic fore arm & grip ( I just changed out my fore arm & grip from the rubber "packy's" to the stock rynite or what ever black plastic fore end & grip...

I was close enough ( too close ) to several deer last year that anything I can do to mask my movement would help...

masterhunter
April 29, 2009, 04:18 PM
Hey its your gun whatever.........http://www.hydro-dip.com/images/Custom_Dashes/WTP-311.jpg

masterhunter
April 29, 2009, 04:20 PM
This may be more up your alley.....
http://www.hydro-dip.com/images/all_pa20.jpg

Magnum Wheel Man
April 29, 2009, 04:21 PM
Master... I've seen the "moth" camo... it's pretty cool :cool: but too big a patterns for the little Contenders...

now a set of Coveralls to replace my plain blaze orange one... now were talking...

:eek: nope... the pink is not my style at all...

masterhunter
April 29, 2009, 04:28 PM
Just giving ya options..........

Playboypenguin
April 29, 2009, 04:31 PM
When the heck is that pink camo supposed to be useful? While infiltrating a "Hello Kitty" convention? :)

L_Killkenny
April 29, 2009, 04:46 PM
I painted a .22 blaze orange for the same reason you want to. I used the gun for coon hunting and was always leaning it against a tree or log when tying dogs back skinning the coon. I was always have to search for it afterwards.

First off, I think camo on rifles is overrated. I've seen a bunch of coyotes come charging in to unpainted, wood stocked guns. Even with movement from the shooter to get on target. So you might consider just getting some orange "vet wrap" and wrap part of your stock up to make it more visible to you.

I painted my yote gun because it was solid black. Stock and all. Here's a pic:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii178/L_Killkenny/IMG_1630.jpg

I used leaves to make templates. You could substitute orange for any of the colors on there and make it work without it being to obnoxious.

Magnum Wheel Man
April 30, 2009, 06:18 AM
this is my 45 Colt +P Contender with Williams fiber optic ghost ring sights... the barrel is customized with a tighter chamber & target crown... the original front sight was silver soldered on, & the barrel is a left hand twist that was formerly chambered in 45 Win Mag... ( I used to have a 10" 45 Colt / 410... but wanted a better chamber for the 45 Colt round for hunting )

the action & barrel wears a Packy rubber grip & fore end for target / range use, but I've picked up this set of stock ( paintable ) rynite grip & fore end for hunting use...

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46318&stc=1&d=1241089948

this is the same gun with some paint program color added... I can't get the exact colors I'm after. but want to get a rough idea as to pattern & how it would look... I don't have a good darker green, & the black should be a flatter black maybe more grey... I'll have to tweak the colors, but I like how the orange stripes blend with the brown stripes between the metal & the plastic... I also thought the engraving would look fine with black sprayed into the recesses, then wiped off the high parts which would already be painted in that sectional color...

thoughts ???

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46319&stc=1&d=1241090087

Kreyzhorse
April 30, 2009, 06:42 AM
I've got to be honest, that color combo is just terrible.

Magnum Wheel Man
April 30, 2009, 06:48 AM
thanks for the comments... again... I just used the standard colors in my paint program, & would be using "normal" camo colors in the painting of the gun, I'm just trying to get an idea of pattern, & relation to grip & gun after painted, the gun & grips would be clear coated in matt clear, & I'm sure I'll have to polish out any metal to metal contact points

& that is my 2nd attempt at doing this, the AR, I pretty much copied the pattern on the gun, this one is all freehand... as I refine the pattern, I'll import some more normal camo colors...

all the work involved in doing the gun, maybe I'm better off just parkerizing or some other non thickness corrosion resistant coating on the gun, & just adding a couple blaze orange stripes on the plastic ??? keeping it just flat black & blaze orange

fbrown333@suddenlink
April 30, 2009, 11:32 AM
I think you are on the right track ith the parkerizing and then adding the orange. It would be less work and would end in basicly the same results.

masterhunter
April 30, 2009, 11:35 AM
Theres always this.http://www.hydro-dip.com/images/Custom_Dashes/WTP-245.jpg

gunn308
April 30, 2009, 02:29 PM
Check this out:
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=53087463&an=0&page=0#53087463
I've camoed my Mossy turkey gun but not sponged might do my Mini this way.

Kreyzhorse
April 30, 2009, 07:01 PM
Why not do something like this Alpine Pattern. The red color could be sub'd for orange.

http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Swiss_Military_M83_Camo_Jacket_New_MS803220.html

hogdogs
April 30, 2009, 07:35 PM
Some of those on P-Masters forum seem like what i was trying to describe. Some look real nice...
I wanted to do my el cheapo .22 savage in Florida camo kinda along this line...
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd301/draco8494/Toyota/100_1253.jpg
with miniature palm frond shape cut into manilla folder but was afraid it would look too much like pot leaf.
Brent

PredatorHunter
May 2, 2009, 09:43 AM
Love your guns like your children. Would you send your kid to school like that?? DON'T DO IT! :barf:

pmeisel
May 10, 2009, 11:12 PM
Why not paint just the foreend and grip? Easily replaced if you hate it or want to sell. Easy to remove to touch up or repaint if you have to....

I would go with an orange and tan instead of green, that bright green contrasted with orange just does bad things to my head.

I like the truck!

Hirlau
May 11, 2009, 12:13 AM
Magnum,
Think about the environment you will be in. Make your weapon blend in with nature. A good graphic artist could use a design like this one and your Contender would appear to be just another work of nature.:D

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk73/typhoonwinds/GetItOn.jpg

MikeGoob
May 11, 2009, 12:16 AM
Found some cool patterns.
http://i34.tinypic.com/5a12l4.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2yn2on7.jpg

impalacustom
May 11, 2009, 02:46 AM
Here go to this website and do it right. http://www.hydro-dip.com/all_patterns.htm They have anything and everything you would want/need, plus the prices aren't bad.

publius
May 11, 2009, 02:59 PM
I think that if you must have some orange I would paint the stocks solid blaze orange and the metal camo. I think you will come out with a much better looking piece.

Magnum Wheel Man
May 11, 2009, 03:08 PM
I'm kinda leaning towards black on the gun, & an orange camo pattern on the grips

since the guy does custom stuff maybe black with black ghost flames on the gun ( that would break up the outlines ) & blaze orange flames on the grips... if the flames were done right, it would be tightly striped like the tiger stripe camo pattern???

MrCleanOK
May 17, 2009, 02:24 PM
Am I missing something here? Why not just find some orange adhesive tape and stick it on the grips? Or some of that orange plastic tape they tie around the top of survey stakes, and tie or wrap some around the grip? When you don't want it, just rip it off.