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Ryndisher
April 4, 2009, 04:25 PM
Apparently local liberals think that allowing people to handle guns is a Gander Mt. or any other gun store. witch means that all of the guns will need to be locked and behind a counter. More info http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=4704 Please call (OR EMAIL) your congressmen and tell them how ridicules this is.

Jon1911
April 4, 2009, 06:30 PM
So they want to prevent us from being able to handle guns at Gander Mountain and other stores? What would happen to gun shows?

This stuff is preposterous.

Ryndisher
April 4, 2009, 06:50 PM
Whats next is all i ask if this gets through?

Mike Irwin
April 4, 2009, 08:33 PM
Ryndisher,

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Al Norris
April 4, 2009, 09:14 PM
From the link posted in the OP:

Assembly Bill 1093 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A01093&sh=t), sponsored by Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-88), would impose new requirements on firearm retailers and require that they obtain insurance to cover criminal acts committed after the legal sale of a firearm. The companion bill to AB 1093, is Senate Bill 1715 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S01715), sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31).

Assembly Bill 1326 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A01326&sh=t), sponsored by Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4), would mandate handguns be equipped with technology which would prevent them from being operated by children.

Assembly Bill 2881 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A02881&sh=t), sponsored by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135), would ban the possession and use of "frangible" ammunition. The companion bill for AB 2881 is Senate Bill 2379 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S02379&sh=t), sponsored by State Senator Frank Padavan (R-11).

Assembly Bill 2882 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A02882&sh=t), sponsored by State Assemblyman David Koon (D-135) would provide for the submission of expended projectiles and shell casings and guns to the state police pistol and revolver ballistic identification electronic databank

Assembly Bill 5844 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A05844&sh=t), sponsored by State Assemblyman Harvey Weisenberg (D-20), would enact the "children's weapon accident prevention act" and creates crimes of failure to store a weapon safely and negligent storage. The companion bill for AB 5844 is Senate Bill 3098 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S03098&sh=t), sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31).

The following anti-gun bill is scheduled to be heard by the Assembly Tourism Committee on Tuesday, April 7:

Assembly Bill 7183 (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A07183&sh=t), sponsored by State Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D-4), prohibits the possession of concealed firearms in any park, campground or other recreation area.
It is section 903 of the first listed bill that the OP is concerned with:
903. SECURITY. EVERY DEALER SHALL IMPLEMENT A SECURITY PLAN FOR SECURING FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS, INCLUDING FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS IN SHIPMENT. THE PLAN MUST SATISFY AT LEAST THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS:

1. DISPLAY CASES SHALL BE LOCKED AT ALL TIMES EXCEPT WHEN REMOVING A SINGLE FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN TO SHOW A CUSTOMER, AND CUSTOMERS SHALL HANDLE FIREARMS, RIFLES OR SHOTGUNS ONLY UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF AN EMPLOYEE;

2. ALL FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS SHALL BE SECURED, OTHER THAN DURING BUSINESS HOURS, IN A LOCKED FIREPROOF SAFE OR VAULT IN THE LICENSEE'S BUSINESS PREMISES OR IN A SIMILAR SECURED AND LOCKED AREA; AND

3. AMMUNITION SHALL BE STORED SEPARATELY FROM THE FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS AND OUT OF REACH OF THE CUSTOMERS.
While onerous enough in its own right, section 902, which requires a $1 million bond would seem to violate the Lawfull Commerce in Arms Act, since it requires liability insurance for any supposed misuse of the firearm after a lawful sale.

jg0001
April 6, 2009, 03:52 PM
In NJ, at my local shop, they don't take a gun out of the case unless you have a handgun purchasing permit on hand. This is different from the FPID that you have to generally get to buy any weapon. NJ requires each purchase of a handgun to have its own permit, they aren't quick to get (1month+), and expire in 90 days, so random purchases of handguns don't really happen. In a similar vein, the same shop does not rent out handguns either.

azredhawk44
April 6, 2009, 04:02 PM
Assembly Bill 1093, sponsored by Assemblywoman Amy Paulin (D-88), would impose new requirements on firearm retailers and require that they obtain insurance to cover criminal acts committed after the legal sale of a firearm. The companion bill to AB 1093, is Senate Bill 1715, sponsored by State Senator Eric Schneiderman (D-31).

While onerous enough in its own right, section 902, which requires a $1 million bond would seem to violate the Lawfull Commerce in Arms Act, since it requires liability insurance for any supposed misuse of the firearm after a lawful sale.

My immediate thought, too. How could they be that dumb that they don't realize it would immediately challenged and pre-empted via federal supremacy?

Kragax
April 8, 2009, 12:19 PM
Done letter to Mr. Bill Parment

Dingoboyx
April 8, 2009, 12:26 PM
Same here in Oz, If you dont have a pistol licence, you cant TOUCH a handgun in a gun shop or gun show. A gunshop owner can get it out and show it to you, but you cant lay a finger on it :barf: