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chatman_55
April 4, 2009, 12:21 AM
ok so i am completely new to owning a shotgun...well a gun for that matter. my first. I have a 12g pardner pump that is going to be used primarely for HD. was wondering what kind of shells i should pick up? as of right now i have a shotgun for hd with no ammo lol.

OLNfan
April 4, 2009, 12:27 AM
it varies alot!! the most common type used I would say is 00buck shot, I suggest you go shooting and pick a shot thats easy for you to control and be able to get accurate follow up shots. Personally I use 000buckshot but thats my 2nd resort, My primary firearm is a 9mm glock with 2x 10 round magazines and a small flash light (right beside my bed)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j239/seaan_2006/shotgun-shell-sizes.jpg

this shows the pellet size straing left from right 7 1/2---4BK---1BK---0BK---00BK---000BK---Slug
I saved this picture on the computer from scorpions thread I beleive.

The hd shell ranges from #4shot all the way to slugs. that leaves you with a choice between shot #4bk,3bk,2bk,1bk, 0bucks.00buck.000buck and slug.

Size Nominal diameter Pellets/oz
000 ("triple-ought") .36" (9.1 mm) 6
00 ("double-ought") .33" (8.4 mm) 8
0 ("ought") .32" (8.1 mm) 9
1 .30" (7.6 mm) 10
2 .27" (6.9 mm) 15
3 .25" (6.4 mm) 18
4 .24" (6 mm) 21
as you can see they are all a decent size caliber as you can see at shot #1 your hitting a 30 cal pellet. (just an idea on the caliber of the pellets in regualr hd most commonly used ammuntion)
Keep in mind your surroundings aswell, memebers in the house, how far away is the next house. The barrel on your shotgun etc . Should also be factors on what shot you use. GOOD luck and have fun!! hope you dont have to end up using your selected ammuntion for this purpose!

wnycollector
April 4, 2009, 06:23 AM
Whenever I pick up a new (or new to me) gun (shotgun, rifle or pistol) that I plan on using for serious purposes...I like to know that its working correctly;) For a shotgun, I would run at least 100 rounds of bird shot through it just to make sure there were no manufacturing problem/defects that might cause problems. I would then I would do what this link says http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141509 Clean and buff the internals.

Now I would run another 100 rounds of whatever ammo I was going to load it with...again to see if there are any problems. Concurrent with this 100 rounds I would pattern my shotgun at the longest shot I could concievibly take in my house. For me that is ~11 yards. Here is a link on how to pattern http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=11817

I also would suggest checking out this short clip from clint smith http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgwHQCJwWw

Now to FINALLY answer your question...I load my HD shotgun with low recoil fiocchi 00 buckshot. I think most brands of 00 buck will do the job for you. If you are worried about over penetration, check out #4 buckshot.

OLNfan
April 4, 2009, 11:36 AM
wnycollector great input! I'am a huge fan of that link you sent of clint smith I use to watch it every day! Great clip I have always wanted to see the real etntire verson. That little clip is what made me want to get a single shot break barrel shot gun (with auto eject), he made it look like to much fun to shoot.

wnycollector
April 4, 2009, 02:24 PM
Thanks OLNfan. I have always wanted to take a class with Clint Smith. Alas $$$ and time have been conspiring against me;)

Chatman_55, go out and shoot your new shotgun...you have LOTS of rounds to shoot before its HD ready:)

chatman_55
April 4, 2009, 03:41 PM
will do the next time im in an area where i can shoot, new problem has come up though, i just picked up some federal ammo. it's just some game load. i can only fit 2 shells into the tube??? from what i read on there website it should be 5. unsure if i read something wrong or if im too stupid to load a shotgun lol.

TxGun
April 4, 2009, 04:09 PM
Chatman, there is a wooden or plastic dowel in the magazine to limit capacity. Certain federal and/or state game laws, federal migratory bird for one, require that limitation when you are in the field. Remove the dowel and you'll have the capacity you expect.

chatman_55
April 4, 2009, 04:18 PM
Thank you very much, i think it got it all ready to go now.

MAX100
April 4, 2009, 04:38 PM
Get some WalMart Value Packs and have some fun, get use to your new shotgun and break her in.. My Pardner Punp Protector patterns very well with Remington Express 00 buckshot. They are very tough and reliable shotguns you made a very choice.


GC

chatman_55
April 4, 2009, 05:04 PM
ok i suck, i have one final question. does anyone know where the serial number is located on these damn guns, there is one number that could possibly be it but im pretty sure it's a model number or something.

TxGun
April 4, 2009, 06:29 PM
I've seen it before because I bought a Pardner Protector for my brother...just can't remember. You're new to this: It's going to be somewhere on the receiver..no point looking anywhere else. Try looking on the bottom...even along the edge.

banditt007
April 4, 2009, 06:35 PM
burn through a bunch of 2 3/4" shells at the shooting range, that are #7.5 or #8's and shoot some clays and other random stuff. w/ these shells we are talking target loads....the cheap shells you see in a box of 20 or 25. usually 1oz- 1 1/8 oz. these wont kick bad, are the cheapest you can get, and get you used to the gun and shooting.

for HD i'd pick up some #1, 0, or 00 buck shot. 00 buck will be the most common and easily available. infact they make it in reduced recoil loads specifically for HD. The 00 buckshot loads i speak of i'd reccomend 2 3/4" 8 or 9 pellet loads. not the magnum loads and definitly not the 3" shells. buy these and SHOOT AT LEAST A HUNDRED OF THE SAME BRAND YOU PLAN ON USING! not only will it show you their recoil, where and how they hit, but most importantly if you shoot at least 100 of them it will show you if you gun 'likes' them. meaning sometimes...randomly...a gun will not like a specific shell. and will have trouble feeding/extracting them. thats pretty much the last thing you want in a HD situation. in the meantime before you go to the range i'd pick up any shotgun shell, to have SOMETHING available for the gun you have. right now its a poor fitting expensive club with no ammo.

practice practice, the worst thing you can do is shoot the gun a few times, then keep it for HD. you need to be very familiar with it and have it be like second nature when you pick it up.

welcome to owning a firearm, have fun, good luck, and i hope you never need to use it for HD.!

chatman_55
April 4, 2009, 06:36 PM
ok so maybe right on the side? i think it is the serial number then, i figured it wouldn't be right out in the open like that.

TxGun
April 4, 2009, 06:53 PM
I'm sure you've got it. It typically is "right out in the open".

FWIW, I changed out the mag spring and follower on the Pardner I gave my brother. The stock spring & follower seemed a little flimsy.

Here's what I went with:

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=12523&title=MAGAZINE%20SPRING%20PERFORMANCE%20PACKAGE

Old Guard Dog
April 4, 2009, 09:42 PM
See my post in above thread- "SMALLER BUCKSHOT LOADS FOR HOME DEFENSE"