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Singlesix1954
March 24, 2009, 11:23 PM
Planning a hog hunt soon and with a "shoot till your out of ammo, then go to town and get more" order from the ranch owner, I'm planning on bringing more than one sidearm. So I was wondering if anyone here has been using sliders on piggs.

srt 10 jimbo
March 25, 2009, 07:24 AM
:):)got one last month, Used my Marlin 336 .35 cal though.

hogdogs
March 25, 2009, 07:39 AM
I know 2 guys who are good enuff on runners that they can stand there ground (I climb the nearest tree) one swears by his .40 Glock and the other uses a Delta Elite 10mm... From the sounds of the shooting instructions, you are doing a service. The farmer may not want you wasting time tracking hogs as he will find them under the circling buzzards later. Keep this in mind. I hope you drop 'em all clean but if not move on to the next one!:D
Brent

sawrecker
March 25, 2009, 05:29 PM
I dropped one this year but used my GP100. I have thought about using my 40 with some 180 or 200 gr Double Taps in it and see how it dose. I have some of their 180 HP's that seem pretty stout, but I would really like to shoot their 200gr Controlled Exp. JHP

Ben
March 25, 2009, 05:54 PM
Call me a sheltered city-boy, but what's the point of shooting as many hogs as you want? What do the people typically do with them? How did they get out of hand in the first place? Is a service being done by ridding them?

Like I said, new at recreational killing.
Ben

azredhawk44
March 25, 2009, 06:06 PM
Ben, hogs get into crops just like any other thief. Foxes in the henhouse, deer in the corn, and so on.

With no predators to keep them down, they'll get to be a big old pack after a couple of years. Thin them down and you've got a couple years reprieve till they come back.

ETA: We don't have hogs in AZ, just javelina. Baby hogs, about 50 pounds. I've heard of lettuce farmers in the Yuma area potting them with .223, though you still legally need a game tag even if they're in your crops.

To the OP: no extermination experience with an autoloader. Good hunting, though!

Mark whiz
March 25, 2009, 06:48 PM
I've taken down hogs (or witnessed them go down) with .357Mag, .45ACP, and even my .44cal 1858Rem black powder revolver. I'm talking sows and boars from 80lb to 325lb.

Some went right to the ground and some refused to acknowledge that they were already dead and continued to run or fight................it's just the luck of the draw vs the orneriness of the critter.

DarthTedd
March 25, 2009, 06:53 PM
I've never been but watched a show on Discovery this week called "Pig Bomb". I had no clue these ferrel hogs were so out of control. Interesting stuff!

daferg2
March 25, 2009, 07:09 PM
I'm not a "sheltered city boy", but the closest thing to taking down a hog for me is the BLT I had for breakfast.

I don't think I'd want to face one with ANY handgun. I'd prefer a tree stand and a rifle. You guys are much braver than I am (or crazy. Take your pick):p

sawrecker
March 25, 2009, 07:19 PM
you need some hog meat to mix in with venison for some awesome sausage. deer by itself is too lean, about a 50 50 mix. then take the back strap cut it down the middle long way lay in jalapeno peppers and onion, wrap some bacon around it and slow cook it on the grill........

Ben
March 25, 2009, 07:41 PM
I prefer Arby's.

Ben

pacerdude
March 25, 2009, 07:53 PM
I have never personally been hogg hunting, but my friend takes his Beretta 92 chambered in 9mm with him.

chris in va
March 25, 2009, 07:56 PM
Call me a sheltered city-boy, but what's the point of shooting as many hogs as you want?

Not necessarily 'recreational' killing, but also a service. I read a thing in the paper about the out of control wild hog population in Texas, and land owners are begging hunters to thin the herd, so to speak.

Tex S
March 25, 2009, 08:17 PM
Quote:
Call me a sheltered city-boy, but what's the point of shooting as many hogs as you want?

Not necessarily 'recreational' killing, but also a service. I read a thing in the paper about the out of control wild hog population in Texas, and land owners are begging hunters to thin the herd, so to speak.

Its true. We have a place in Jacksboro, TX that has been overrun with hogs. Never hunted them with a pistol, but I wouldnt reccommend it. I wouldnt feel safe using anything smaller than a 223. Those hogs are mean if they feel threatened.

I had a buddy that hunted em with German Shepards, and I mean German Shepards only. No pistol, no knife. A 300lb boar ended up laying his leg wide open and killing one of his dogs one night. He was lucky to make it to the hospital. I might add that this fella has securely harvested many hogs using the same technique. Not me though... no way.

They do also create problems around the ranch. Big boars are capable of knocking down deer feeders and tossing the 50 gal drum full of corn around like a toy. Thats 350lbs of weight when the feeder is full.

If you take your pistol be careful...

Jason_G
March 25, 2009, 08:52 PM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/itsthewhitmans/jason/M1Aupload1.jpg

If you do decide to carry a pistol only, get something stout. A 10mm with some hunting loads would be my choice if I had to rely on a sidearm alone.
Hogs are not steel plated, they can be dropped with a .22 if shot placement is good; but if it's not good, things can get ugly fast. Get something with some "umph".

Jason

Hirlau
March 25, 2009, 09:01 PM
"I had a buddy that hunted em with German Shepards, and I mean German Shepards only. No pistol, no knife. A 300lb boar ended up laying his leg wide open and killing one of his dogs one night. He was lucky to make it to the hospital. I might add that this fella has securely harvested many hogs using the same technique. Not me though... no way."

Hogdogs,
Looks like Tex's buddies needs to borrow a couple of your dogs:D
I think I saw a photo of two of them you posted a few weeks ago. Could they hold a 300lb hog?

Singlesix1954
March 25, 2009, 09:04 PM
Ok you so far have agreed with my wife that I am crazy...so we have that out of the way. Some say 9mm, others say 40S&W, another suggested 10mm. I like that. Anyone use a 45acp, 38 super, or 375 sig.? As Texas is a 38 super territory I thought someone would have a report on it's performance. Anyway keep the views comming. I will have a .480 ruger wheelgun as the main hunter but want to take a slide for BUG. To me the 45acp is a good choice but I have one and need an exuse to buy a new cal. Thanks!

bluetopper
March 25, 2009, 09:07 PM
They are thick and a nuisance around here in NE Texas. If you see one you can bet 20 or more are very close. They stay in large packs.
The creek/river bottoms are full of them.

freakintoguns
March 25, 2009, 09:09 PM
i also saw that pig bomb show last nite. i was amazed at how much of a problem they are. really need to get my hands ona semi auto shotgun and a couple three more magaziens for my XD 45 and look for soem rancher round here wantin rid of em!

daferg2
March 25, 2009, 09:14 PM
:eek: Ok, if I was on the ground and only had a pistol, I'd want something like this:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/daferg2/Guns/AZ-C15P97S.jpg

Maybe not EXACTLY what you had in mind, but 30 rounds of .223 ought to do the trick!

pacerdude
March 25, 2009, 10:02 PM
On second thought boars are mean as all get outs, so i would reconsider the 9mm i suggested earlier as my friend first shoots them with his rifle. Maybe a faster round like a 357sig or 10mm. :)

P.S. Good Luck!

azredhawk44
March 25, 2009, 10:34 PM
Ok you so far have agreed with my wife that I am crazy...so we have that out of the way. Some say 9mm, others say 40S&W, another suggested 10mm. I like that. Anyone use a 45acp, 38 super, or 375 sig.? As Texas is a 38 super territory I thought someone would have a report on it's performance. Anyway keep the views comming. I will have a .480 ruger wheelgun as the main hunter but want to take a slide for BUG. To me the 45acp is a good choice but I have one and need an exuse to buy a new cal. Thanks!

Trick out that .45 auto as a .45 Super or .460 Rowland. 230-250gr hard cast lead at 1100fps or faster. Not quite .44magnum, but pretty respectable. Cheaper than a new gun, too.

azredhawk44
March 25, 2009, 10:35 PM
Jason G: That's what my hog rifle would be too. If I had hog to hunt.:D

Wish I was closer to nuisance pig populations in Texas... sigh.

Catfishman
March 25, 2009, 10:41 PM
My neighbor hunts them with Pit Bulls. After the dogs grab the hog he handcuffs them and brings them home. He feeds them out on corn for a few weeks and then butchers them.

Most wild hogs around here are killed with a .22. They are lured into a trap made of wire panel fencing. The opening is kind of like a fish trap. Sometimes the pen is full of hogs. I have seen a truck squated down with dozens of dead hogs.

BTW - I would rather eat boiled chitterlings than wild hog.:barf:

kwells6
March 25, 2009, 10:48 PM
when I get the chance to go, I normally carry my cz52loaded with some nasty 90gr hollow points I buy

Swampghost
March 25, 2009, 10:49 PM
Ben, until you see what hogs can do you won't understand. If you farm, think of a giant roto-tiller going through your property. I've seen a 50 yd. swath turned up in natural property. If your seeded or have young crops the damage can be much greater.

Ben
March 25, 2009, 11:23 PM
Point made. I know I can just Wikipedia this, but what crops do they typically eat? I've seen wild boars with their large tusks, and they're always portrayed as aggressive. I've never had a run-in with one though. With regards to getting injured while hunting them, well, some times the hunters become the hunted.

Ben

Doyle
March 26, 2009, 07:10 AM
Ben, it frequently isn't the crops themselves that they are after. It is the roots and grubs under the soil. Just wait until you have seen what they can do to a golf course in just one night. It looks like somebody took a disk harrow to it.

delzo
March 26, 2009, 08:57 AM
A few nights ago the news reported they were going to let a select few hunters use a bow and arrows to kill off the nuisance hogs in Bush Park on the west side of Houston.

They don't have enough traps to make a dent in the growing hog population so they are looking for more drastic measures. The meat will be donated to the Houston Food Bank.

Sounds like fun to me!

Mark whiz
March 26, 2009, 08:38 PM
Hogs are definitely Omnivoris........................they eat anything. Typically roots, grubs, acorns - things of that nature are 1st choice................but depending on what foods are available - they'll eat anything. Some of the best eating I've had with them was some that had been eating the fallen oranges from orange groves in FLA........................ pre-marinated meat - YUMMY! :D A couple of years ago, I read in some areas of drought, their food sources were so limited that they were dragging off deer that had been shot before the hunters could catch up to the carcasses. :eek:

Like has been said - wild pigs are mean SOBs and you do have to be careful. While I have used pistols, it was while I was with someone along for backup and usually with dogs as well. AS far as what caliber I would use...........44Mag or .454 Casull would be good. :) .45ACP will work as well as the .357mag - but I prefer big holes with as much velocity as I can get. I shot a 80lb sow at almost point blank range with a .357, she wouldn't go down............the outfitter I was with jumped on her and slit her throat and she STILL wouldn't stay down..............................finally a .22 in the ear laid her out. Initially I thought the .357 round didn't do it's job - but post-mortem inspection showed otherwise..............that bullet damaged both shoulders so severly that the meat in them was unharvestable...........little piglette was just too stirred up to lay down and die, even though she was already toast.

XpatBubba
March 26, 2009, 09:24 PM
Yea, I still have some land in FL that has some serious hog issues. I have taken some with a bow, mostly with the ole Winchester 1894 levergun or a 12GA slug. I carry the Desert Eagle in .50 across my shoulder when on the ground with the rifle as a primary. I miss hunting them.

NWCP
March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM
Hogs can be a bugger to take down. A .308 with a .41, or .44 magnum as a side arm would be my preference. The .308 does a number on them as will a 7.62x39, or a well placed .223. In South Carolina we used a 12GA. The brush was thick and the hogs were aggressive. Dogs can get torn up pretty bad at times. They seem to be overrunning areas in the South and Southwest. Aren't they considered a varmint in Texas?

jgcoastie
March 26, 2009, 10:34 PM
I'd recommend a Glock 20 or 20SF. Load it up with some good JHP's or a gas-checked lead round... 165/180/200grains should do the job nicely... Carry a few spare mags though. Amongst a bunch of angry hogs is not the ideal time to run dry...

hogdogs
March 26, 2009, 10:36 PM
I have no qualms sending in my bulldogs (any alone as well) on any size hog... It may be the last hog for 'em but they may make it out unharmed... Roll of the proverbial dice every time out.
If I know we have verified "dog wreckers" in the area I will take 2 bulldogs.
Brent

Mexican_Hippie
March 26, 2009, 10:54 PM
My family used to own a ranch where we guided hunts. I've shot a ton of them and have hunted them on horseback with dogs as well.

If you're on the ground with them I wouldn't go less than .45. You can shoot them behind the ear with a .22 mag, but if you barely miss you're toast.

Those things are mean. My grandpa has the most hilarious VHS tape with one of his bow hunters jumping on his truck hood. The bowhunter wounded one with an arrow as they were coming to pick him up. It chased him from his tripod to the truck.

Bowhunters:rolleyes:

Doyle
March 27, 2009, 07:12 AM
Yea, I still have some land in FL that has some serious hog issues.

If your land is near Sarasota/Bradenton, I can help with population control.

mec
March 27, 2009, 02:43 PM
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44611&stc=1&d=1238182420
Each hog situation seems to be a law unto itself. Good bullet placement is supposed to be the key but even that doesn't always drop the hog. Some people head shoot them with 22s. I've had them run a significant distance shot through both shoulders with a 180 grain 30-06. The one above soaked up four 250 grain keith bullets while running with lungs and heart hits all fully penetrating and exiting. The finishing shot was end to end at 20=-30 feet with the bullet running the spine with considerable damage, breaking the back leg and stopping under the skin of a ham.


This was the result of a single shot from a 55 grain nosler ballistic tip loaded to a sedate 3000 fps off the muzzle Distance was just over 200 yards. They arn't supposed to work out this well at that kind of range.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44612&stc=1&d=1238182420
The hog was over 200 pounds and was DRT. Rifle was a busmaster Predator.

precision_shooter
March 27, 2009, 02:44 PM
Wild Hogs are not typically considered varmints in Texas. They are considered a neusance animal. Last I heard there were 5 wild hogs to every 1 human in this state. That is why we don't have to have a license or special stamp to shoot them. All wild hogs are shoot on site with no questions asked. If you want the meat, great, take it. If not, you leave it laying there or drag it off to some brush and go on to the next one.

Hogs usually have at least 8 piglets each time they "get knocked up". And we're not talking once a year like most animals, they can have up to 3 litters each year. So thats up to 24 new hogs born each year from 1 mature hog. That is why the numbers are so high. Also, Texas has more acreage of privately owned land than any othere state in the nation. Makes it hard to keep the population in control when the hogs are thriving on peoples 5000 10000 or 20000 acre ranches.

Most of the time the ranchers won't get people to come and kill some hogs until the population on their land gets to a point where they can't handle it any longer.

Now for what I use, I usally have my .308 AR or .223 AR with my GP100 or .357 Mag Desert Eagle as a BUG. They usually don't get far when hit with the /308. The .223 has good penetration but does not cause enough shock to make them DRT so if you want the meat you have to do a little tracking with the BUG in hand. Only ever had to use the BUG 1 time and it was the GP100. 1 shot and the hog went down for the count.

KILL ALL YOU CAN WHEN YOU CAN.

hogdogs
March 27, 2009, 03:22 PM
Pre-Shooter, I consider them vermin. Not Varmint! Vermin no different than cockroaches, termites or rats...
Brent

Tamara
March 27, 2009, 03:34 PM
Frank W. James was writing about the farm at which he's helping clear some hogs (http://frankwjames.blogspot.com/2009/03/weather-is-always-factor.html).

Apparently the farmer had to re-plant 600 acres of corn. With seed, fertilizer, and labor costs, that's $60,000 in damage that hogs have done to his farm, in just the last three weeks. That's a lotta dough.

BurkGlocker
March 27, 2009, 03:41 PM
My buddy has his farm and some property up by the Red River and he had a sounder of pigs get into his corn field, tore up a good 20 acres. I can only imagine how many pigs it took to tear up 20 acres in less than 8 hours.

I have been down near his deer feeder after the pigs have come through, nothing but torn up land. It seems that everytime I go over for a visit he's complaining about something being torn up. Plus they have been suspected for killing cattle as well...

As for when I go hunting, usually the .308 Win (wished I had a lever action though) and I carry my G21 loaded with XTPs as a BUG.

hardluk1
March 27, 2009, 04:53 PM
I am new to this forum but not hogs. Don't underestamate them. A 22 behind the ear will stop them but a badly placed 223 BT can get you killed. I have shot several with a barnes x bullet.Devistateing rounds. In a rifle of most any kind that is the best bullet for the job. I have used a 357 more than anything else and allways shot 180 grain hard cast and it will take out both shoudlers with no problem and from it will go thru the chest plate in the front on it will come out the rear or low thru the chest. DON'T take them for granted. Don't shot most hollow points out of a pistol. Dpx at the higest +p in 40,45 or 10mm 357, 45lc,44, or bigger. If a shot gun ,make it a heavy slug. If a rifle most any controlled expantion rounds,X, trophy bonded, that type of round. All this is for up close and personal shooting. Nothing is better than slow cook sow.

publius
March 27, 2009, 05:45 PM
I shoot 'em every chance i get with whatever I have. I really enjoy shooting my .45 Colt. Wild hogs are very destructive, and many people don't know it but also predatory. They will eat newborn fawns, turkey eggs. etc. The nasty things even eat their own dead. Not to mention they are hell on crops. They did an estimated 1 billion worth of crop damage in Texas this past year. Part of the new stimulus plan should be supplying me with ammo to help TX farmers. :D

Kendo
March 27, 2009, 06:42 PM
I've just gotten into the hogs . I use the .308 or .223. Ive also gone with a friend with dogs and no guns. The dogs are pretty cool infact very cool but Im a gun guy. Id just a soon shoot em at 100 yds as get in a wrestlin match with em and try to tie em up. And as said above that is exactly what they do . The other day a friend of mine caught one about 250, hobbled her, as their headed thru town she gets loose and jumps out of the back of the truck . Sounds like it was quite a show gettin her back in the truck. I told him today see my way you dont have that problem.:D

Buzzcook
March 27, 2009, 06:48 PM
Pre-Shooter, I consider them vermin. Not Varmint! Vermin no different than cockroaches, termites or rats...

Except for the BBQ part I hope. :eek:

Kendo
March 27, 2009, 06:56 PM
They are extremely good eatin.

hardluk1
March 27, 2009, 07:05 PM
Anyone with that many hogs to be a problem should think about a bbq as a side business. If the helth deptment could be delt with. Or like some in florida run a add post it ever where for fresh hog> as you get orders yo can fill them. The boys around perry florida use to do that. Died, fresh and dressed with ice in the belly.

davem
March 27, 2009, 09:01 PM
Ben: getting back to your Q; hogs can tear up crops but even most Wildlife Departments don't like them and if the local hunters can't clear them out the Wildlife Dept. may contract out trappers to reduce hog populations. In any event once hogs get established in an area it becomes almost impossible to eliminate them.
You're up in Atlanta but there ought to be plenty down on the Savanna River near Savanna proper. I'm in Florida and hogs can become a problem tearing up the ground, etc.
I think the ultimate "hog experience" is with the knife. You need dogs to catch the critter and then you slip in quick and finish him off. I'm still working up some nerve before trying that one. Up to your elbows in pig blood. Way cool. :cool:

hogdogs
March 27, 2009, 09:10 PM
I try to keep or "give away" all high quality pork pig. It is a fine line ;tween sale and buchering the swine. The "buyer" or gatherer will assist in my free service.
Brent

Fat White Boy
March 27, 2009, 11:11 PM
I use my .270 or .308. I carry a Ruger Security Six in .357 Magnum for my side arm...

A small group of pigs can make a barley field look like it was disced an a night or two...

SilentSoul
March 28, 2009, 05:12 AM
the only hunting i have ever done is hog hunting thus far:D i have seen a lot of things, my families.. hell bound way of hunting at times results in a good laugh, if we get bored, we hunt with no catch dogs, and no firearms.. just big sharp knives and beer :D seems to work if you don't mind a few cuts and bruises every now and then.. but thats part of being young and dumb, the smart people find a tree when you see the palmettos rustling and hear that screaming thing coming towards you, or at least pull out a gun and start shooting

as for what gun i would want, Ruger Alaskan.454 casull, i love the round.. but i don't like the gun its chambered in for that type of work, i want a semi-auto .454.. though i have never seen nor heard of such a thing in the real world anyway, so what can you do...

my advice.. be a man and bring a sword :D or bring the biggest gun you can carry in one hand and squeeze the trigger on

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a31/ReQ-uiEm/stuff/2009-03-2806-09-04140.jpg
28" 3.2lbs razor blade, perfect for the hog on the go

Para Bellum
March 28, 2009, 12:45 PM
Are you sure you only want to bring sidearms for hog hunting? Are we talking sus scrofa here? It's already hard to stop a (weak!) huma in his tracks with any handgun. I don't know what hogs you are expecting, but the ones we have rip daredevil hunters to pieces:

http://www.huntingpage.de/mediac/400_0/media/Keiler_01klein.jpg

I'd pick a medium to stout caliber rifle (7x57, .308, .270 up tp 300 WinMag, 8x68S) and as a backup for pure survival (or controlled suiciede) a handgung I can handle very well with deeply penetrating ammo (in my case Glock 19 with Hirtenberger FL).

Catfishman
March 28, 2009, 04:12 PM
Para Bellum, that's a big pig. How much did it weigh?

nickE10mm
March 29, 2009, 01:56 PM
I always carry my Dan Wesson Razorback (10mm) loaded with some nice DoubleTap 200 grain 8eartooth flat nose loads running about 1300+ fps and a few extra mags. I also carry a flashlight since we do some night hunting too.

Para Bellum
March 29, 2009, 02:22 PM
Not me or my hunt in that pic, but bigs in my area are ususally between 80 and 200 Kg (88 - 440#). Sus scrofa in Europe....
tough beasts, I'd never thing of tracking them with only a handgun.

There are mich bigger ones then the one posted above...

http://www.xxl-jagen.de/var/plain_site/storage/images/xxl_jagen_de/jagen/trophaeengalerie/starker_keiler_aus_der_nordtuerkei/603861-2-ger-DE/starker_keiler_aus_der_nordtuerkei_large600.jpg

That one's exceptional: 285kg (627 [corrected, typo]):

http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/9,3-mm/Bilder/9,3x62/9,3-mm-KJG-Dettmann-Keiler-2006-3.jpg

Scorch
March 29, 2009, 02:40 PM
That one's exceptional: 285kg (712#):Wow, that's a beauty, a true trophy if there ever was one.

Your conversion is off a bit (627#).

Tamara
March 31, 2009, 09:58 PM
as for what gun i would want, Ruger Alaskan.454 casull, i love the round.. but i don't like the gun its chambered in for that type of work, i want a semi-auto .454.. though i have never seen nor heard of such a thing in the real world anyway, so what can you do...

my advice.. be a man and bring a sword

Congratulations.

In just over one paragraph you have ensured that everyone here who is familiar with the topic will ignore any post you make from this point forward.

SilentSoul
April 1, 2009, 10:01 AM
In just over one paragraph you have ensured that everyone here who is familiar with the topic will ignore any post you make from this point forward.

How so? i will assume its because no one has a sense of humor... or maybe mine is just too different

is the "mall ninja" stigma really that bad? just because i mention a sword in a post... means everyone will ignore me? guess we can ignore the fact that i have had martial arts training since i was 9, actually know how to use many different weapons, and have experience with the "real world" so im not some deluded wanna be "operator", but i suppose the "be a man, bring a sword" comment was much to vague.. because of course, i have actually carried a sword out into the bush and dispatched a hog with it, and would suggest everyone try it at least once, you know.. to "be a man"

as for the other part.. a .454 casull, i fail to see whats wrong with this, except for the fact that i made mention of the round being used in a traditional auto loading form factor, i wont bother touching on that, im sure its been done


I do thank you for the "heads up" its nice to know the type of community im really dealing with

/sigh

PS. no, that is not a fake sword.. if anyone is wondering -.- 9260 silicon alloy carbon steel, my tatami omote blade in shirasaya, waiting to be redressed

hogdogs
April 1, 2009, 10:22 AM
While I did see the humor attempt and Tamara's point as well...
Be a real man and use this...
http://b42-shop.nl/shop/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Buck_110_Folding_493542aaeea6c.jpg
I have used smaller but find under the 3.75 inch blade of the Buck 110 it takes too much work...:D
And you gotta draw and open it one handed as you try to hold the hog's tail to keep it off you...:eek:
Brent

SilentSoul
April 1, 2009, 10:55 AM
I understood as well, which is why i decided to explain myself somewhat, i don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about me, i have issues with getting the "emotion" across in my posts, while i may be sitting here laughing.. it comes across more.. serious:eek:


that aside, i dont carry folding knives anymore, for that very reason.. i didn't get one locked open once, cut my finger to the bone when it shut back.. but thats ok, i usually don't hunt with dogs anymore, more fun to do it the "hard" way, not to mention all the work involved, pain and suffering to the dogs, and in my opinion.. the meat tastes a lot better when the hog wasn't killed in such a manner, not sure why.. everyone says its because of all the stress, but they can't explain why

I have dropped, and will keep dropping hogs with my 870 12g +slugs, worked flawlessly so far

hogdogs
April 1, 2009, 11:25 AM
Thre flavor is better if the hog is killed while "at rest" adrenaline and testosterone are but 2 chemicals released in stressed situations. But we rarely ever dispatch our dog caught hogs at the scene of the catch as we prefer to pen them for a week at least then butcher them.
Tastes as good as possible this way. If a hog survives even for a few moments after initially shot or even shot at these chemicals are in the meat as well. But to save the dogs I have gone in for the "stick" in battle and those hogs are resigned to 100% sausage meat...
Brent

Catfishman
April 1, 2009, 11:03 PM
Para Bellum,

Do you know were that monster was killed? The biggest bore I have ever seen was about half that size, and it was huge.
Thanks for the great pictures!

Hirlau
April 2, 2009, 01:14 AM
Thank for the photos Para Bellum. From the size of that hog, if I ever start hunting again, I'd better take my .375 H&H.
and an AK back-up.

Singlesix1954
April 3, 2009, 09:10 PM
Thank to all ! I guess I'll buy a 10mm slide as a backup to my .480 wheel for this trip. It just so happens that I was @ the Hornady factory Monday and they were testing a 10mm in the 2nd tunnel and I was impressed. So when the hunt is over I'll be back with pics.

Thanks...Single Six 1954

Para Bellum
April 4, 2009, 03:27 AM
Para Bellum,

Do you know were that monster was killed? The biggest bore I have ever seen was about half that size, and it was huge.
Thanks for the great pictures!

Sorry, no. But if I read the faces of the two gentlemen right, the blond one is German, Dutch or Skandinavian and the dark one - I assume the guide - is central asian, I assum from Kasachstan. They have BIG HOGS there I have heared.