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mrt949
March 21, 2009, 06:13 PM
I was loohing at them at the shot show in orlando They look great for practice with ammo being a problem in some areas.What do you think.;)

ken grant
March 21, 2009, 07:06 PM
I think the Airsofts are great for home training and I do it all the time.
I have Gas Blow Blacks for a Glock 19 and a 1911.
The Glock is a KWA and I have shot over 16,000 BB's through it with no problems at all. In fact, I didn't expect it to really last a long time and bought some spares but have not used them yet.
I use Coleman Propane Bottles for gas and in warm temps can get over 6,000 shots per bottle at a cost of less than $3.00 ea.
I gave one of my spares to my Grandson and he has shot I don't know how many through his and as of today, it is still going strong.

My 1911 is a WE Tactical and it gave problems at first and broke parts but after replacing them and cuting a little of the guide rod, it is going strong as well but I have not shot it as much as the KWA Glock.

DiscoRacing
March 21, 2009, 07:13 PM
i have a couple... used to shoot em all the time... now i gave em up when i started reloading rifle ammo

bigghoss
March 21, 2009, 07:58 PM
just ordered a KWA glock 18

Dave R
March 22, 2009, 12:15 AM
I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only. I shoot 'em in my garage, doing draw-from-cover-to-first shot drills.

Same concept, I suppose, except it really is my pistol.

I find it very valuable.

bigghoss
March 22, 2009, 12:26 PM
I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only.

that wouldn't work for me because I live in an apartment.

the airsoft would allow me to practice in my home and get an good idea of clearing my apartment should I hear a bump in the night but I'm not sure if someone has actually broken in or if that crap pressboard bookshelf from walmart finally gave way.

I also plan on getting a .22 kit for when I actually get to the range

I also have the fun of a full auto airsoft pistol:D

Ricklin
March 22, 2009, 12:58 PM
I've been practicing with airguns for years. I've now switched to airsoft, not as accurate as a pellet pistol, but quiet and safe.

If you can shoot good groups with the crappy airsoft triggers, a real weapon is a pleasure.

Practice Practice Practice

scorpion_tyr
March 22, 2009, 08:31 PM
I'm trying to talk the wife into doing some drills and scenarios with some airsoft guns. She doesn't think it's a good idea, but I think it could be a great tool for HD.

The rubber BBs won't cause any real injuries (keep safety glasses on), but the sting you get from being shot will teach you a lesson if you're doing something wrong.

SilentHitz
March 22, 2009, 08:48 PM
I've also got a KWA 1911 blowback, just paid $59 as a close out item. Shot it so much the front sight came off, super glued it, and it eventually came off again LOL. Think it's about time I flipped for a more expensive model ( all steel), cause they're too much fun. I live in an apartment too, and it's just the ticket...got a cardboard box with target taped on it in the bedroom.

It's not too hard for my sister to tell my brother and I have been playing...she finds all the rounds that happen to wind up on the floor...usually finds a few when she runs the vacume cleaner too. ;)

KnightZero
March 22, 2009, 09:19 PM
There are 4 Pepsi cans sitting on top of my television. I'm sitting here wishing that I had an airsoft to pick them off with. I would like to invest in a model that emulates one of my carry guns, but I can't seem to find a model of my XD or my Millennium in blowback. I'm thinking about getting the cheapo Millennium spring gun for now.

I used to have a couple of Beretta 92 spring guns, and a Glock spring gun, but they all ended up with my ex-fiancee when we broke up.

Those Pepsi cans really won't stop calling me now.

matthew temkin
March 22, 2009, 09:20 PM
Great training aids.
Fun, too.

SilentHitz
March 22, 2009, 09:52 PM
Not practical at all, but I want one of these just to play with:D LOL:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-HWA-6801-STG.htm

Croz
March 22, 2009, 10:08 PM
I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only. I shoot 'em in my garage, doing draw-from-cover-to-first shot drills.

What caliber? We used to do that when I was a kid with my dad's .38 special. I didn't think they were available in many calibers. I'd love to be able to do that with my 9mm.

NYPD13
March 23, 2009, 06:53 AM
With the price of ammo, sure do. Besides airsoft is just plain fun.

SpookBoy
March 23, 2009, 07:15 AM
Yes i do, especially reloads. and sometimes i practice the reloads with or without a flashlight in the dark.Works for me and cheap as dirt.

bigghoss
March 23, 2009, 10:52 AM
Not practical at all, but I want one of these just to play with LOL:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-HWA-6801-STG.htm

that thing is too friggin cool!:D DO WANT!!!

the only cooler one I've seen was a m203 grenade launcher under an m4airsoft that shot 20 pellets at once I think.

SilentHitz
March 23, 2009, 10:57 AM
Finally ordered it this morning, just couldn't resist any longer.:D

Housezealot
March 23, 2009, 11:18 AM
I have got a couple of beer cans on strings I hang up and shoot at while I watch tv, and if you think Its not dangerous thats only becuse you haven't seen my wife when her vacuum sounds like a popcorn maker thanks to hundreds of pellets;)
I have a cheap 39 dollar spring gun, I have been wondering how many rounds you get out of the co2 guns befor you have to replace the air cartridge?
any body know off the top of their head?

SPUSCG
March 23, 2009, 01:33 PM
Airsoft I can dual wield rifles, and do. i almost solely dual weld airsoft guns, as they are so inaccurate that fun is about it. They do teach some stuff though. Like reacton time, aquiring a moving target, taking cover. It also teaches that a bush or trashcan is good cover though. Its fun though, need to get some pics of dual wielding a crossman c-11 and a G-22 airsoft.

ranburr
March 23, 2009, 01:38 PM
Great for FOF.

G-man 26
March 23, 2009, 02:29 PM
I have a friend who trains religiously with air soft. Do you guys recommend this? He does, I haven't taken the plunge on this one yet. May have to, or not, can't decide. It sounds like fun times, but I don't know how much I would trust them as a training aide.

THEZACHARIAS
March 23, 2009, 02:48 PM
Any practice you can get will help, and airsoft definately counts. I wish the recoil on those things was a little more realistic, but it does help in other ways if you can find an airsoft gun with similar weight and balance to your normal weapon. I also consider any time spent on a paintball field as shoot-on-the-move and tactical practice as well, since its the closest thing you're going to get to being shot at with real bullets.

csmsss
March 23, 2009, 03:51 PM
Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see what benefit you get from training with an Airsoft rifle/pistol. An Airsoft pistol will feel different in your hands, will have different sights and POI, and can't duplicate the noise and muzzle flash of an actual firearm. I don't see what advantage it possesses over training with an unloaded weapon.

ranburr
March 23, 2009, 10:44 PM
CSMSSS, the advantage of training with airsoft is in force on force scenarios. It allows you to safely practice close combat drills that you can't do with live ammo for obvious reasons. I used to consider airsoft a childs toy until I went to a class that used it in FOF. It is a very eye opening experience and gives you a pretty good idea of what tactics will get you shot and which ones will get you out of the line of fire.

Doggieman
March 24, 2009, 02:57 AM
I agree Airsoft would be good for COMBAT TACTICS, but in a home defense situation there really aren't any 'tactics' per se, from all the dozens of stories I've read about them. The only tactics I've read about were that the homeowner 1) had a gun and 2) fired it at the intruders. 99.99% of all attacks are criminals looking for an easy score. Once the guns start blazing the criminals leave very quickly.

That said, if you think you're going to be in a situation where armed dudes are going to break into your place with you there and they will know you are armed and are going to do it anyway, then you might need some tactics. But if you're involved in a situation where that might happen I'd hope you'd have the cash to spend on a few bodyguards and their weaponry and/or other home defense stuff.

For the obvious reasons IMHO Airsoft are not good for standard home defense situations because they do not replicate the recoil, the DEAFENING SOUND, the acrid smell and possible smoky haze of actually firing a weapon indoors.

ranburr
March 24, 2009, 10:10 AM
Doggieman, I have to agree and disagree with you at the same time. You are right in that very few homeowners deploy any real tactics per say. I would argue that the reason for this is that they have no training. I would also argue that airsoft is a good training tool in that it gets you as close to the real thing as is practical with the obvious household restraints. I don't know of too many people who are going to shoot live ammo or even simunitions off inside their living room in the interest of training. Using your logic MILES gear used by the military is worthless. The airsoft does a very good job of showing you how to draw, move, search, avoid taking hits, and how to get on target.

Doggieman
March 24, 2009, 03:05 PM
all's I'm saying is that sort of tactical training for homeowners is almost completely unnecessary. If you want to do it, then great. I think the money would be better spent, for most people, for range ammo. The firing of a real gun in an artificial environment is IMHO better than the firing of an unreal gun in your home for training purposes.

If you really really want to practice "sweeping" your house or whatever, I believe you could do so with your unloaded real gun. Shooting little plastic pellets doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me, because what you're really going to have to deal with is not various guys moving around the house shooting at you from behind cover while you do commando rolls behind the bidet, etc., , but the simple fact that you're going to have to 1) get one of your guns in a hurry 2) possibly shoot the gun indoors and 3) watch the bad guys run like the Keystone Kops back to where they came from.

justinicus
March 24, 2009, 06:11 PM
can anyone tell me how loud the electric and gas airsoft guns are? I picked up a cheapo spring piston pistol and it's easily quiet enough that I don't bug the neighbors. I've seen a few AEG videos on youtube though that make it seem like it's about as loud as my paintball gun. That would definitely too loud for hitting my Crosman gel dartboard target at 2am like I can now.