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camoman33935
March 21, 2009, 04:49 PM
what is the minimum age you have to be, to be able to have an SBS done?

Im 18 now. also, im in FL if that matters

PTK
March 21, 2009, 05:23 PM
I had my first NFA around that age - but on a Form 1. If you fill out a Form 1 for yourself, you can make a SBS, SBR, AOW, DD, or silencer at 18. :)

Hkmp5sd
March 21, 2009, 05:26 PM
You must be 21 for any NFA item, including SBS.

PTK
March 21, 2009, 05:27 PM
You must be 21 for any NFA item, including SBS.

While you are correct for Form 4s, I have three approved Form 1s with a date before my 21st birthday, and with "are you 21 years of age" checked "NO". :)

Hkmp5sd
March 21, 2009, 05:39 PM
Were they signed by a CLEO or did you use a Corp or Trust?

PTK
March 21, 2009, 06:24 PM
Used a revocable living trust. :)

Hkmp5sd
March 21, 2009, 06:28 PM
And there you go. :) A living trust has no age. An individual must be 21, even on a Form 1.

camoman33935
March 21, 2009, 06:45 PM
so whats the answer

Hkmp5sd
March 21, 2009, 06:48 PM
You have to be 21 to buy a NFA item. You can form a corporation or a living trust (generally need a laywer) and it seems that entity can buy NFA items regardless of age.

camoman33935
March 21, 2009, 08:05 PM
ok....what if i do the form 1 to make a SBS? do i still gotta be 21?

Hkmp5sd
March 21, 2009, 08:32 PM
Yes, you have to be 21 on a Form 1.

David Hineline
March 22, 2009, 12:07 AM
18 to make NFA on form 1 or to buy any NFA from an individual in your own state. 21 only applies to buying from a dealer.

Any other answer is incorrect.

Hkmp5sd
March 22, 2009, 10:13 AM
If that is true, then I stand corrected. I have been wrong for 30 years.

David Hineline
March 22, 2009, 10:34 AM
It is possible that state law may be tighter where ever you are but federal is as I put.

PTK
March 22, 2009, 11:01 PM
Hkmp5sd

You are indeed incorrect. I'll dig up the letter from the BATFE to that effect. I'll try to post it in the next day or two. :)

Hkmp5sd
March 23, 2009, 05:42 PM
Oh, I believe you. I've just always thought it was 21 for some reason.

David Hineline
March 23, 2009, 06:41 PM
Cause that's what they want you to think, goto a std. guns show 75% of the attendees will thing a sawed off shotgun is illegal.

Life changes after you take the red pill.

David Hineline
March 23, 2009, 06:51 PM
Cause that's what they want you to think, goto a std. guns show 75% of the attendees will thing a sawed off shotgun is illegal.

Life changes after you take the red pill.

Crosshair
March 23, 2009, 08:34 PM
There was a thread on this subject on silencertalk.com. If it's a Form 1, you can be 18. A Form 4, you have to be 21.

Yes it sounds stupid. Just like how you have to be 21 to buy 9mm ammo for a Glock 17, but 18 to buy 9mm ammo for a Sub-2000.

PTK
March 24, 2009, 03:34 AM
If it's a Form 1, you can be 18. A Form 4 from a dealer purchase, you have to be 21.

Fixed it for you. A person-to-person in-state transfer of NFA items on Form 4s can be done at 18. :)