View Full Version : If you could only take one Shotgun into battle...
March 9, 2009, 09:26 PM
If you had to blast your way out of a prolonged, nasty situation, what would be your shotgun of your choice?
March 9, 2009, 09:34 PM
simple my Saiga 12 with my drum magazines. For the situation you list this would be the best shotgun that I have, not necessarily the best that I own.
March 9, 2009, 09:34 PM
March 9, 2009, 09:36 PM
Whichever one I could shoot while running the other way......
March 9, 2009, 09:37 PM
Those are really cool, I wanted to look at one...but in Kalifornia the slaves cant have certain guns....sigh.
March 9, 2009, 09:40 PM
"Whichever one I could shoot while running the other way......"
agreed. wouldn't want to be in an intense firefight with a shotgun if i wasn't well supported by rifles, but in which case a shotgun becomes truly deadly. but probably a 590 because of the mag capacity.
March 9, 2009, 09:41 PM
Mossberg 5 series. if I could have any of them I'd take a 590 with an AR style pistol-grip shoulder stock and a bayonet, loaded with #7 turkey. If it was one I have It'd be my 500 with the 18.5" smooth barrel, still loaded #7 turkey.
March 9, 2009, 09:45 PM
Maybe I should clarify...it wouldnt be an army type firefight where you are going up against rifles... more of a "without rule of law" situation where you gotta "escape from l.a" and you'd be up against hoardes of human zombies trying to stop you.
Think of the final scene in Natural Born Killers where Woody Harrelson is escaping the jail. :)
March 9, 2009, 09:49 PM
Not likely to happen but I'd take my Mossberg 500.
March 9, 2009, 10:29 PM
12 gauge semi auto with atleast a 10 shot capacity.loaded with 0 buckshot
March 9, 2009, 10:36 PM
12 gauge semi auto with atleast a 10 shot capacity.loaded with 0 buckshot
can you give an example other than a saiga and an atchison?
March 9, 2009, 11:09 PM
well, there's a 9+1 benelli autoloader, mossberg 500 with extension tube holds 11 2 3/4" shells (just use a 24"barrel), SPAS12 holds 10+1...
March 9, 2009, 11:12 PM
Benelli M4 Tactical
March 9, 2009, 11:13 PM
ive never seen the benelli 9+1. sounds menacing. how long is the barrel?
March 10, 2009, 12:34 AM
My Mossberg SPX and a wheelbarrel load of Federal Tactical ammo
March 10, 2009, 12:43 AM
I have the Saiga 12 and an 870. Hard decision, but I must go with the 870.
March 10, 2009, 12:58 AM
I'm thinking an old 105 firing flechette rounds.
March 10, 2009, 01:45 AM
benelli 9+1. sounds menacing. how long is the barrel?
I'm not 100% on this but I think the berrel is 28". My buddy has one and it is about as long as my 500 with the field barrel attached. I think it's worth the inches to have the rounds and be semi-auto, but it cost him almost a grand new, so I'll stick with the Mossberg unless he tries to unload it cheap.
March 10, 2009, 07:45 AM
colostomyclown, a remington modell 1100 with a 26" plain, fixed IC choked barrel and mag extension. many moons ago before the clinton and florio bull we could have such a combonation
March 10, 2009, 07:51 AM
But how reliable are most autos with the possibility of mud and dirt and sand in the mix? Or ammo probs? Not some pampered gun in a duck blind. Maybe a pump gun. Something with a mil. track record like a Win 97 or one of the modern mil, not police, versions. I only have an 870. Guess it would do. I am too old and tired for combat patrols, I will stay at the fort with it and hold off the indians.
March 10, 2009, 07:52 AM
I'd take an AR, AK, AUG or FAMAS.
...ease of recoil, capacity, terminal ballistics.
March 10, 2009, 01:23 PM
Whatever was available. I would only use it until I could get my hands on a rifle.
March 10, 2009, 01:39 PM
Shot gun don't matter to me so much as ammo. if I had an 18 inch barrel for my mav 88 12 it would be preferred but I would grab my 500 20 and as much #3 buck, slugs and 7 1/2 and "lay to"...
March 10, 2009, 03:04 PM
Shotguns are very limited in combat, but if I HAD to, it would be the 870.
March 10, 2009, 03:25 PM
any sawed off pistol grip, much more accurate and way cooler.:p
March 10, 2009, 03:55 PM
This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c
March 10, 2009, 04:03 PM
In addition to sacrificing accuracy and requiring you to take the gun off target to rack the slide, you give up the buttstroke option. In a true SHTF situation (especially one involving prohibited post topic beginning with 'Z') ammunition will be a scarce commodity and having a melee attack readily available will be a boon. For the buttstroke I also recommend a wooden stock shotgun, with the recoil pad removed. It's a damn shame my 500 doesn't have a bayonet lug, the more I think about it I just may have to upgrade to the 590...
March 10, 2009, 04:26 PM
=1 ON THE AA12
I believe the 12 gauge granades (Frag 12) are currently operational.:D
March 10, 2009, 04:37 PM
to hell with all these guns. id take a sawed off new england firearms 20 gauge single shot.
March 10, 2009, 05:32 PM
My Mossberg 590 sense it's the only one I have.
March 10, 2009, 06:03 PM
sparkysteve: Lol the the AA 12 is what I was thinking too! Loaded with 00 buck shot. with a 32 round drum
If I had to use one of my own shotguns I would use my mossberg 500 with my ar-retractable stock. with again 00 buck shot.
March 10, 2009, 06:49 PM
It would be my 18.5" barreled US military Model 12 winchester. In my opinion the model 12 was probably the most reliable shotgun ever built.
March 10, 2009, 08:12 PM
March 14, 2009, 11:45 AM
Ditto on the running if all I had was a shotgun in a fire fight. MAYBE the AA12 if I had someone with a rifle to back me up. Don't think those bad guys will wait for you to reload.
I think I would rather like an AR-15, or any rifle really that is center fire.
March 14, 2009, 09:46 PM
A Vietnam era US GI Ithaca 37 and full brass 00 buck.
March 14, 2009, 09:47 PM
Winchester 1300 Camper
March 14, 2009, 11:25 PM
I decided NOT to post my Ninja comments
March 14, 2009, 11:59 PM
For the proverbial repelling the borders against the hordes, the AA-12 would seem to be just the ticket. Use the drums or box magazines.
In the PRK, I'll use an 870 if I have one, a Mossberg or a Winchester 1300, whichever is available. #1 buckshot and #00 with some slugs available for longer shots.
March 15, 2009, 01:30 AM
1986 Wingmaster Special Purpose12ga. Mag recieiver with 2005(new style) Police Imp cyl RS 18" barrel , Trigicon tritium sight inserts,Factory mag extension with Vang follower ,Vang Safety, Vang Polished chamber throat,forcing cone and bore,Surefire 9volt foreend with LED Turbo Head. GG&G single point plate on a Houge 12" Stock , Sidesaddle locktited real good.Wolfe spring upgrades and 4 pound trigger job Last Awerbuck SG course (of 6 prior ones)I ran with this gun and it WORKS better than the old 1988 Robar 870 it replaced as #1 .
Those green shells are Rem LE Reduced recoil slugs (1 oz soft lead at 1150 FPS) which this gun prints into 3" at 50 yards.
March 15, 2009, 02:12 AM
In some situations a shotgun might be OK, searching buildings, very close quarters, etc. If it were normal modern day military battle though with enemies wearing body armor, distances over 50 yards, I would much rather have a rifle.
If I was forced to carry a shotgun, I suppose a good pump with ghost ring sights and an assortment of buck shot and slugs would be OK. A Benelli M4 or M3 with ghost ring sights would be pretty good too.
March 15, 2009, 02:29 AM
Saw them on that Fox "Future weapons" show (with that bald dude, ex seal) AA-12 fires 275 RPM, has drum or stick magazine, can fire shot, slugs, mini grenades (9' burst radius) accurate to 175 meters :eek: Do a google search, or look on youtube, I bet you'll want one (at least) It is sort of the "dillon MG of shotguns :D
Gimme gimme ;)
March 15, 2009, 08:34 AM
WOW!!! Winchester Model 12's & 97's. Pretty sure they both hold 7 shells. I have a thumb scar from a 97 that is older than most of the other guns mentioned. Worship the Winchester. You guys are cool!!!!!!!!
March 15, 2009, 08:44 AM
An M-79 loaded with M576 would be pretty sweet.
"For close range fighting two styles of M79 rounds were developed. The first was a flechette or Bee Hive round which fired dozens of small darts at once. Later in the war this was replaced by the M576 buckshot round. Containing twenty-seven 00 buckshot, this round was devastating at close ranges. "
Although if you're talking about what I have that I could grab and go with either 870 with 21" barrel, modified rem-choke and full wooden stock (preferred) or my 500A Persuader with pistol grip, side saddle and 18" IC barrel. I guess it would depend on if I thought I would need to carry it discretely in a backpack. I would trust either, but I have had the 870 for so long and shot it so many times I feel my muscle memory is better with that manual of arms.
March 15, 2009, 08:51 AM
I don't have many shotguns..ok 4 but only one is a pump all the others are single shots so I would have to say my Mossberg 500 without the plug and good dose of 00 buck its all I've got really.
March 15, 2009, 12:45 PM
Mossberg 500 homeland defender edition. Are there better ones out there? Probably, but thats what I know, its high cap, controlable and combat proven.
March 15, 2009, 01:15 PM
I love the pic of Gordo's Mall Gun, especially alongside his little rubber ducky. It is true, a picture IS worth a 1,000 words.
March 16, 2009, 12:47 AM
"to hell with all these guns. id take a sawed off new england firearms 20 gauge single shot."
The dreaded "crackhead cannon" :(
Love that 12" Hogue (and the rest of it, sidesaddles are not for me but that is one night fighting SOB) Gordo, are they available for Mossys?
March 16, 2009, 02:21 AM
March 16, 2009, 02:54 AM
remington870 becasue its what i currently own. if i had a choice of what to grab it would be hard. other variables would weigh into the desicion to, such as the type of bug-out gear i had, number of shells and type of shells i had readily available, where i was heading (IE the woods or the desert), what kind of support i had, if i had avehicle available and what kind, etc etc
March 17, 2009, 09:09 AM
Its just a prototype with some kinks in it - but I am impressed. Very cool. He says he will be at knob creek - someone should give an AAR if they go.
From the site:
"I have designed and patents pending on this.. Its a beltfed 12 gauge upper receiver for a ar-15 or m16 lower receiver. It uses your lower receiver, so if you have a ar15 its a semi auto shotgun, however if you have a registered m16 lower or a drop in auto sear it becomes a full auto 12 gauge machine gun. This is a prototype model and all the bugs arent worked out quite yet. Most of the problems that I have encountered revolve around the shotgun sheels not being consistent enough to eject sometimes. However I will have it a Knob Creek machine gun shoot in april for everyone to see it work in person. If you have questions or would like more info on how to get one please E-mail me at [email protected]
March 17, 2009, 09:13 AM
I would have to bring my Mossberg 590A1....
March 19, 2009, 08:22 PM
Jackhammer Mk3A1, Drum Mags, Tweaked for full auto option
March 19, 2009, 09:10 PM
I'm pretty sure this was made for such an occasion.
James R. Burke
March 21, 2009, 11:44 AM
I would aggree with Rem870hunter, even thouht I do not have one. I guess I would be stuck with my double barrels running the other way with wide chokes.
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