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Doc Hoy
March 2, 2009, 10:53 AM
Experts,

Picked up an 1851 Navy (.36) Sheriff's model at the gun show yesterday and the only Manuf. mark I can find is "C.O.M." and am trying to determine who made this pistol.

I have looked at the various manufacturer identification data and have had no success.

To be specific, the pistol has an octagon barrel, five inches in length. (Just like an 1851 Colt in Navy caliber with a five inch barrel.) Markings include the various government proof marks from all Italian manufacturers. It was made in 1977 and marked "Cal. 36 NAVY MODEL Made in Italy"

On the bottom of the barrel under the loading lever it is marked "C.O.M"

It is a brass frame, blued steel, barrel and cylinder, brass back strap and trigger guard.

Can anyone tell me what manufacturer is denoted by the C.O.M.?

Doc Hoy
March 2, 2009, 11:54 AM
Folks,

Here are some photos of the pistol. Any info you have would be much appreciated.

pohill
March 2, 2009, 04:46 PM
I'm guessing that C.O.M. was the importer.
Have you seen this site?
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdf

Doc Hoy
March 2, 2009, 04:59 PM
Thanks Pohill,

This is actually the first place I went. It is what I use for date codes.

Tnx,

Barry

pohill
March 2, 2009, 05:09 PM
Are there any manufacturer codes on the gun that you can ID from that site?
Ooops, I just re-read your 1st post and saw that you already tried.

Fingers McGee
March 2, 2009, 05:18 PM
COM is one of the markings (manufacturers mark???) that Dr Jim Davis at RPRCA is trying to nail down. As of now, no one seems to know who the maker is.

FM

Doc Hoy
March 2, 2009, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the heads up Fingers. As I get more familiar with what all is out there, I will do some comparsons.

arcticap
March 2, 2009, 11:15 PM
If it's from Italy, then one of the licensed gunsmiths in this list must have been involved with its production:


http://www.earmi.it/armi/database/armieri.htm

Did you see this thread?

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3342038#post3342038

If COM was the U.S. importer, then the initials should be listed here, but they're not:

http://www.ncsconline.org/D_Tech/wayfarer/showtype.asp?id=365



In the final analysis, they probably just fit the parts together that they bought in rough form from one of the major Italian manufacturers. So does it really matter who fit the parts together and tuned it up? It's nice to know but not all that important as to its value or collectability, is it? :rolleyes:

Doc Hoy
March 3, 2009, 03:05 AM
Thanks,


I had checked out the first thread for a different reason but then lost track of it. I now have it bookmarked as a reference. Thanks for the reconnection.

I read the second thread with interest.

Finally IMHO you are precisely correct in your last sentence. It is only a nice-to-know tidbit.