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mwfields
February 28, 2009, 09:24 PM
I may have a real problem. My son removed the slide stop from my PM9 and something's wrong. The slide will not come off (or move at all) and I can't get the slide stop back in place either. Any ideas?

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 09:29 PM
Just disassemble the gun completely and then put it back together. How old is your son?

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 09:46 PM
How do I disassemble it completely? I can't get the slide to move more than 1/16 of an inch either way.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 09:54 PM
The slide should not lock up from simply removing the slide stop. Are you sure he did nothing else? Once the slide stop is removed you should just pull the trigger and remove the slide while holding the trigger. Sometimes mine will stick if I am not holding the trigger down.

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 09:58 PM
I'm not sure what he did. The fact is that the stop is out and the slide will not move either direction - with the trigger depressed or pushed forward.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 10:00 PM
Is the slide all the way forward or are the notches on the side lined up for removing the slide stop? Have a digital camera to take a pic?

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:04 PM
The rear of the slide is about 1/16th of an inch forward of the rear of the frame.

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:06 PM
If I pull the trigger (with some pressure) the slide moves rearward slightly - but not flush with the rear of the frame.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 10:06 PM
Is there a round in the chamber???

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:07 PM
No, I am certain of that.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 10:07 PM
Oh, and the magazine is out...correct?

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:10 PM
Yes, the mag is out.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 10:12 PM
If it was me I would just try to pull the slide back to the locked position first and go from there. Unless your kid lodged something in there, it should go. You might need to use a little muscle. I would also consider getting a new kid...or not letting that one touch my guns again. :D

nate45
February 28, 2009, 10:14 PM
Here is a link to the PM9 takedown and assembly video.

http://www.kahr.com/PA-1_9mm_pm.html

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:16 PM
But he's fired it and cleaned it a dozen times before. Something's wrong inside. With all my strength I can not move the slide either direction. I've tried sliding it with the trigger pulled all the way, depressed slightly and pushed forward. I've tried pushing the slide forward with a lot of force too - it just won't move. Is it possible that maybe he removed the stop and then pulled the trigger too soon or too late or something and now the trigger is in the way of the slide moving?

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:18 PM
We've watched that before and again tonight. It doesn't help with where we are now.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 10:25 PM
Mine has frozen on my MK40 before. I just had to wiggle it back and forth while pulling the trigger. With the trigger pulled it should come free. if not, something has been broken. It is so hard to diagnose without seeing it.

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:26 PM
I'll let you know what we come up with.

nate45
February 28, 2009, 10:29 PM
I just used my PM9 to figure it out.

What happened was he pulled the trigger and dry fired the pistol before he removed the slide stop and did not re cock it, but its OK. Just pull back hard on the trigger till it clicks then pull the slide forward. Don't be afraid you are going to break it pull the trigger till it makes a loud click.

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:33 PM
Nope. With all my strength I can not pull the trigger hard enough to get it to click. I even put a wooden dowel through the trigger and pulled with two hands.

nate45
February 28, 2009, 10:36 PM
I'm out of ideas, you better call Kahr Monday morning.

Playboypenguin
February 28, 2009, 10:37 PM
Well, the issue does seem to be that he tried to slide the slide off without pulling the trigger. I cannot believe the slide will not budge at all. If nothing else it should give way and break. You need to get it back to a position where the notches are alligned.

mwfields
February 28, 2009, 10:39 PM
I really appreciate all your help and idea. I'll call Kahr Monday AM and let you know what I find out.

Thanks again.

orionengnr
March 4, 2009, 11:59 AM
Interesting. Please report back and let us know how it works out.