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JohnH1963
February 1, 2009, 09:44 PM
Just thought I would post a useful poll and have a discussion on what means the most. Feel free to add your thoughts on the issue.

You can choose more then one option in the poll.

Playboypenguin
February 1, 2009, 09:49 PM
Reliability of course. If it does not go bang every time the rest of the stuff is pretty irrelevant. :)

SilentHitz
February 1, 2009, 09:53 PM
Easiest poll I've done...if it don't go bang everytime, your problems have just begun. Pretty won't get you squat.:eek:

tony pasley
February 1, 2009, 09:53 PM
Facing a bad guy is not the time to find out you pay a lot of money for a very small club to hit some one with.

tirod
February 2, 2009, 04:09 PM
I don't see a trend to venerated US military pistols much here. Not that a compact 9MM poly Commander couldn't do, but science marches on.

The majority of modern self defense pistols seem to be gravitating to shorter barrels, less ammo, poly frames, double actions, and few or no external safeties. Other than making the magazine non-circular, pretty much what the revolver offered for decades.

Add a striker mechanism with drop block safety, you get product liability for the 21st century. The more things change - well, the more they stay the same.

doc540
February 2, 2009, 04:12 PM
"Other characteristic not mentioned": my confidence and competence with the piece

Hawaiian Eye
February 2, 2009, 04:22 PM
I was tempted to choose "Other charecteristics not mentioned" and enter the ability to quickly acquire a sight picture for the first shot, but, then figured that might be more of a shooter function than the gun itself. Yep, it's got to fire or no matter how accurate, or how effective a round it fires, it ain't worth the price.

Keltyke
February 2, 2009, 04:49 PM
Unless I misread something, you missed COMFORT IN THE HAND. My gun has to fit my hand like I was born with it there.

David Armstrong
February 2, 2009, 05:10 PM
Reliability and comfort. Basically will it work and will you have it with you. After that, everything is fairly low on the scale.

BillCA
February 2, 2009, 05:10 PM
Reliability
Accuracy
Quick Follow-up shots

For reliability, tony pasley said it best above.

Accuracy is next. If it goes bang, I want the bullets going where I've aimed. I can't miss fast enough to win.

Quick follow-up shots - this means I can fire a 2nd shot within 1/2 second or less reasonably accurately (it doesn't mean I'll enjoy it though). In a gunfight for my life, if a fired round didn't work, I want to be able to hit him again and again rapidly until it works or I get to cover!

Caliber doesn't matter as much as the ability of the round to meet the above AND penetrate sufficiently to reach the CNS or shock the body into incapacitation. A .38 Special in expert hands can beat a .45ACP in a novice's hands.

One gun that meets my criteria of reliable, accurate and quick follow-up shots is
my 3" .45ACP Model 25 by John Jovino.
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/nf/M25/M25JJ01S.jpg

And this one just barely scoots under the wire for quick follow-up shots.
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/BillCA/Hobby/nf/M657/M657_1753M.jpg

R_CRUZ
February 2, 2009, 05:20 PM
1. ERGONOMICS
2. Reliability
3. Concealment
4. Caliber

scorpion_tyr
February 2, 2009, 05:27 PM
The most important thing to me when it comes to home/self defense firearms is training. I don't trust the gun with my life, I trust my skills with the gun to save my life.

Deet
February 2, 2009, 05:43 PM
Power- I'll hit what I'm aiming at, I want the BG to go down fast. The .357 magnum meets my needs.

Deaf Smith
February 2, 2009, 07:24 PM
It's there when I need it.

If it's not there, well it isn't worth a dang, right?

alloy
February 2, 2009, 07:43 PM
mainly the concealment and some comfort. if it isn't with me...i guess it wont help. but not mouse or pocket guns.

KnightZero
February 3, 2009, 12:03 AM
Reliability tops my list. Accuracy comes in a close second - doesn't have to be bulls-eye, but I like to know that I'll be hitting what I intend to shoot. Concealability and CC Comfort follow suit.

My Taurus PT140 Millennium Pro has lived up to all of the above so far. I purchased an XD40 service recently, and it has become my bedside gun - it far exceeds my Taurus in the first two respects, but fails miserably on my other two requirements.

MJZZZ
February 4, 2009, 08:59 AM
My priorities are simple.

1-It has to be absolutely reliable.
2-It has to be accurate.
3-I need to be able to conceal it comfortably.
My CZ Rami fits all these needs. Mike

The Great Mahoo
February 4, 2009, 09:34 AM
1. Reliability - it just has to work. Period.
2. Ergenomic - has to point naturally and handle well
3. Concealable - If I can't carry it well, it will end up at home doing me no good

4a. Quick follow-up shots
4b. Accurate
4c. Powerful
I'm going to group these together, since its a combination of them. If the gun accels in one, the others can be a bit less. Its a balance of each element to find a good firearm. I'll take a .32 or .380 that is accurate and I can shoot quickly, or I'll take a .357 that I can shot accurately but have a slower second shot (or faster second shots that are less accurate if in a jam.)

5. Capacity / ease of reload - Not a major concern, as I am confident in a 5 or 6 shot firearm, but something to consider. I wouldn't want a 2 shot derringer, unless nothing else was available.

6. Looks. I'd like it to be in good shape and look nice, but its at the bottom of my list and definately not a deal breaker/maker.

SDDL-UP
February 4, 2009, 09:48 AM
I didn't realize it was a multiple choice poll!

I voted reliability, but that would be followed by capacity, and then ergonomics.

The CZ-75 series suits my needs, but if I had to choose a different type it would be a Glock 17 (I have one of these also).

JohnH1963
February 4, 2009, 11:06 PM
Thanks for all those that responded. The poll results reflect my own view and opinion about the ultimate self defense weapon. Reliable, accurate, concealable and comfort in concealment.

Here is my definition:

Reliability-
-Able to fire even if dirty and not maintained.
-A sudden drop from 6 feet on to concrete does not render the weapon unusable.
-Able to fire 100 rounds in one sitting with no malfunctions.
-Able to be dropped into the mud, water or dirt and still be able to fire.

Accurate-
- Able to hit a target the size of a pie plate from 25 yards consistently.

Concealment-

- Able to be concealed and worn comfortably for the whole day. The "trained eye" should not be able to detect that you are concealing a firearm.

2rott
February 4, 2009, 11:25 PM
Of course the obvious & fit & ergonomics. Also very important to me that it's a natural pointer. Not all guns are created equal in this last area. Very important for a instinctive shooter.

Hardtarget
February 7, 2009, 12:58 AM
Maybe I was wrong, but I voted in two places.

It must be reliable. I've got to know it will shoot.
Larger than 9mm. Just personal preference.

Mark.

Kline605
February 7, 2009, 04:48 PM
I guess pretty much everyone has said it "Reliability". If it doen't go bang it's an expensive club.

G-man 26
February 7, 2009, 11:46 PM
Looks like most agree,
* Reliable
* Accurate
And I'll say
* Concealment
* High cap.
I like my pocket rocket to take the full cap mags of my service sized pistol. Just a personal preferance.