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OH-CCW
January 28, 2009, 12:06 PM
I get tired of shooting with people who just what to stand in 1 position and shoot the same target for 50 or so rounds. I have a CCW permit and at my range I enjoy setting up multi targets and drawing from concealed carry. My theory is practice what may save your life. Accuracy is important to me but not the only thing, I also put a strong importantance of speed to draw and fire a round on an intended target. Now i pray to God that i never have to draw my weapon ever but with times changing I want to be prepared.

I was wanting to get some practice tips or scenarios from others.

Delaware_Dan
January 28, 2009, 12:20 PM
I'm boring, I just shoot bullseye.

noyes
January 28, 2009, 12:26 PM
right hand , left hand drills

shooting & reloading

oldkim
January 28, 2009, 12:27 PM
If your bored with just shooting from the bench and want more scenarios I would recommend you try IDPA (International Defensive Pistol Association) or USPSA (aka IPSC - United States Practical Shooting Association).

idpa.com or uspsa.com

The competition is good but putting you the shooter under pressure really steps up the game for CCW.

Keltyke
January 28, 2009, 01:10 PM
+1 "oldkim". If your range doesn't allow multiple targets or shooting across the lanes (and most don't) you can practice strong hand and weak hand shooting. Also single hand shooting and point shooting from low ready (not sighting).

ranburr
January 28, 2009, 02:03 PM
If you want to learn how to effectively shoot on the move, I would suggest you take a few classes from Gabe Suarez.

Glenn E. Meyer
January 28, 2009, 02:30 PM
I agree with the IDPA , ISPC suggestions. You also might do a search on the forums for training in Ohio - if OH means that. TDI and other places can get you off the paper.

NYPD13
January 29, 2009, 10:23 AM
Take a course in point shooting. In a gunfight you'll never see the sights. Also practice strong hand/weak hand.

Glenn E. Meyer
January 29, 2009, 10:47 AM
How come there are quite a few reports of folks seeing the sights in crystal clarity in gun fights? Did these folks lie? Cirillo is an example.

Dustin0
January 29, 2009, 10:49 AM
+2 "oldkim".

The Great Mahoo
January 29, 2009, 11:39 AM
The local indoor range here is like that, allowing only basic shooting techniques, though there is no ROF limit. Distance is a nice variable 3-50 feet, though. I generally work on right and left hand shooting and grouping drills here.

We have an outdoor range as well, which one can get away with a bit more if its not crowded. I will work on draw-fire and multi-target shots here when I can, but usually can only do that if there aren't many others on the pistol range.

I've been meaning to look into the IDPA though...

oldkim
January 29, 2009, 07:09 PM
IDPA is a totally different animal when it comes to shooting. I mean you draw and move and fire. You'll run from position to position and engage targets from standing, kneeling and on the ground (depending on scenarios).

If you think you can shoot from a bench - shooting will have a whole new meaning when you are under the clock and shooting on the move. You'll have to "relearn" how to shoot.

Just to give you a taste the next time your out and your regular range will allow it - step back 2 steps and then shoot your target while slowly walking those 2 steps. The up and down motion you'll have time.

It can be a bit scary at first but know that if you just GO to one and just watch. Let everyone know it's your first time there. They'll welcome you with both arms and most often even match you up with some experienced shooters to walk you through.

DO read the getting started section

http://idpa.com/dps_info.asp

http://uspsa.com/dw/gettingstarted.html

The sections will talk about what equipment you'll need and what the safety procedures are. For both FIRST go and watch. Bring your gear and gun(s) but be prepared to just watch. If the club can get you in that's great. Your first outing should be to focus on just getting familiar what the rules are and how to be safe. Your first time is totally to be safe and slow. You don't want to be DQ - disqualified. It does happen to experienced shooters too but it's embarrassing as heck.

Go with the attitude of having fun and learning. You'll get a kick out of it and you just may end up buying a whole lot of gear and ammo.

chopz
January 30, 2009, 03:44 PM
set up 2 targets at varying distances from one another. try 2 shots in one, then 2 in the other, then one more shot in each. this is similar to some of the idpa drills i've seen, and doesn't require running around.

TacticalDefense1911
January 31, 2009, 05:17 PM
What part of Ohio are you from? If you are around the Canal Fulton/Canton area, the range I go to (Midwest Gun Club) has a tactical practice night that we just started doing. It is all done in front of the shooting booths. We work on target aquisition, movement, shooting on the move, reloading, etc. Also, they have IDPA and USPSA on the weekends. If your local range does not have things like this see if they would at least look into if there was any interest in doing something for a nominal fee (our tactical nights are $10).

The Great Mahoo
February 3, 2009, 10:17 AM
What are the main differences between USPSA and IDPA?

I glanced over the websites and haven't found any clubs listed near me, so before I activly seek them out I am curious as to which one I would prefer to look into.

Are both largely the same?

Glenn E. Meyer
February 3, 2009, 10:35 AM
Check out our forum at http://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15

To be brief - IDPA is supposedly to be more realistic than IPSC in the use of guns that are not highly specialized for competition (but you can shoot stock guns in IPSC). Also, IDPA uses cover and courses of fire that are supposed to represent more ecologically valid scenarios.

Of course, this is a great debate about whether being a competitor will somehow reach up and bite you in a 'real' situation due to some inappropriate transfer of training. There is no evidence that this has ever really happened if you try to lay the blame to competition. There are ancedotal reports that competitors have really done well in fights.

I think the take away point is that realistic and intensive firearms training sets a base for skills and mind set. The shooting sports help keep technical shooting skills up to par.

IDPA is cheaper !

The Great Mahoo
February 3, 2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks for the info, Glenn! After reading through both websites, I am much more interested in IDPA, since I am not much for big competitions (and all the hassles that go with). That is to say, I'd rather be able to go have fun with what I have than have an arms race, dumping hundreds and thousands into equipment when that money would be better spent on ammo!