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PTK
December 3, 2008, 07:33 AM
Just thought some of you might be interested, took video of my new .45 Evolution silencer (AAC manufacture) on my H&K USP Tactical. Also took video of my 30-06 T/C Encore without and then with my 762-SD silencer (also from AAC).

Both demonstrate very much why I dearly love silencers. The gent shooting the .45 hadn't shot a handgun that recoiled that hard before, just shoulder arms. Just about no flinch thanks to less noise! :)

As for the 30-06, I doubt I need to say much. Without the silencer, it's painful and then some even through ear plugs. With the silencer, it's hearing safe - period.


.45 Evolution video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p4A-X6lr0k) - firing WWB .45ACP 230gr ball.

762-SD video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SIWkwO-ZhI) - firing 165gr BTSP bullets at 2900FPS or so.

Wiskey_33
December 3, 2008, 08:22 AM
Hmmm..

Makes me want to send in another form 4.:D

PTK
December 3, 2008, 08:23 AM
Doesn't it? :D

Wiskey_33
December 3, 2008, 08:44 AM
PTK,

do a comparison like the shooter was talking about. Pull the can off to show the difference.

I know online videos don't really show how loud a pistol really is, but it's always cool to see the difference in recoil and sound.

PTK
December 3, 2008, 08:45 AM
Yep, we forgot to take the silencer off for another video, we're going to do that next time (probably within a week!)


With that silencer and a cap full of water from a water bottle, it was almost as quiet as my .22lr Buckmark with a silencer.

Wiskey_33
December 3, 2008, 10:02 AM
Are there any ill effects from adding water? I've never heard of that before, but no surprise, I've never owned a can.

PTK
December 3, 2008, 10:08 AM
None at all! The water is very regularly added to pistol-caliber silencers to greatly increase sound reduction.

It makes cleaning of the piston/spring inside the silencer easier, but I did need to immediately clean the USP when I got back just to make myself feel better about water having been so close to the action...

Wiskey_33
December 3, 2008, 10:16 AM
Hmmm...

I wonder how my GLOCK 23 would like a silencer..I'll ask later.

RAnb
December 3, 2008, 12:20 PM
PTK,

Any advice on how to demostrate the extreme difference in noise using a camcorder? I have a mini DV camcorder that I have used for recording events at the rifle range. The difference between suppressed and unsuppressed levels is very little when played back on the TV.

Would taping from a long distance or covering the microphone help out? Thanks.

Ranb

PTK
December 3, 2008, 01:39 PM
Try to record from at LEAST 10 yards off, use zoom if you must, and be off to the side as close to perpendicular to the muzzle as you can safely be. It's worked well for me. :)

MrClean
December 3, 2008, 05:17 PM
Curse you! :mad:

I've been dying to get an Evolution for my HK USP Tactical.....
and now this...... :eek:

PTK
December 3, 2008, 05:26 PM
It is truly and utterly incredible. When I say it's only marginally louder than my silenced .22lr pistol, I mean it - this is SPOOKY quiet for a .45ACP! :D

444
December 4, 2008, 01:38 AM
That EVO 45 sounds great.
I have the EVO 9 and have been wanting to get a .45 ACP suppressor for several years. I couldn't decide what to buy and ended up with an SWR HEMS. I haven't even got the paperwork back from the PD yet so I have several months to go before I get to hear it.

PTK
December 4, 2008, 01:40 AM
From what I understand, the SWR HEMS and HEMS II are great - about on par with the Evo45.



You will be VERY happy, if that holds true. :)

flight954
December 4, 2008, 10:54 AM
None at all! The water is very regularly added to pistol-caliber silencers to greatly increase sound reduction.
I've never heard that. I don't think I'll be putting a cap full of water in my $900 Gemtech suppressor:confused:

9mmkungfu
December 4, 2008, 01:39 PM
Actually ALL .45 cans are designed to be fired wet, from the get go. There might be a dry can out there somewhere but 99% of .45 cans are wet cans.

RAnb
December 4, 2008, 02:13 PM
It does not have to be water. There are some greases that work well too, but they stink, or so some people claim. Any liquid that evaporates will make it work better, but I would not add gasoline to it. :)

If you shoot a few mags through it after the last bit of water added, it should heat up enough to dry out completely. But I have noticed that it was harder to take out my K baffles to clean them after shooting my 9mm and 22lr cans wet. If your can does not come apart, then I would not worry about adding water at all. Just shoot it dry or use a solvent or alcohol to clean it out later. I am not an expert on cleaning silencers, so other may want to chime in here.

Ranb

aroundlsu
December 4, 2008, 03:38 PM
Shooting cans wet is indeed very common. My .45 Blackside sounds much much better wet than dry. Though I do get picked on by my range buddies when I pull a water bottle out for my silencer. I've gone as far as to just spit into the can when no water was around.

flight954
December 4, 2008, 05:45 PM
Interesting. I don't have a can for a 45cal. yet.

444
December 4, 2008, 06:41 PM
I have no idea why you wouldn't shoot a pistol can wet, or a .22 can. And, I don't know what the price has to do with it.


Shooting a can wet makes a HUGE difference. I might even go so far as to say that in some of my cans, there is a 75% reduction in sound wet vs. dry (that is just a wild guess based on my hearing alone with no electronics involved).
I start out shooting my .22 cans as well as my pistol cans wet, 100% of the time. I don't nessessarily add more "wetting agent" to it after I start shooting but I sometimes do.

Don't put liquid in a centerfire rifle suppressor.

PTK
December 4, 2008, 09:36 PM
Don't put liquid in a centerfire rifle suppressor.

Why not? That reduces the flash out the front, and is covered in the AAC manual for both my 762SD and M4-1000. :)