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MJ1
December 2, 2008, 04:29 PM
Just love this round.

Cheers
..MJ..

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Wildalaska
December 2, 2008, 05:04 PM
You betcha!
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306394&highlight=ultimate

WildcallmeolafAlaska ™

Tamara
December 2, 2008, 08:36 PM
I even took my CG 96/38 to Tejas in search of javelina. Didn't get any piggies, but I did drink beer with cool people...

Tom2
December 2, 2008, 08:38 PM
And from the look of those rifles, you just love to make us cry. Nice. I only have an all matching '06 now. Pretty decent but not quite 100% finish condx. Maybe 15 years ago or more, I saw a guy at a gunshow with the first one I saw. A '09 that looked like it had come right from the factory, flawless. It was the most perfect surp. gun I had seen. Was sad I missed the deal. Since then I have owned a few but think this one might be the only one that is all matched numbers. Don't know how long you have had them, but in that condition, values are now finally climbing up from the mass import days.

publius
December 3, 2008, 05:37 PM
The Swede is the best. Next huntin rifle on my list is a CZ in the Swede. Of course I would love to get my hands on the original posters rifle.

pesta2
December 4, 2008, 09:02 AM
Count me in! I also heard a Urban Legend, If you go and look in the mirror and say “6.5” three times, Ken appears.


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jsmaye
December 4, 2008, 09:20 AM
MJ1 - I think you just dream up these new topics as an excuse to show off your arsenal. ;)

benogil
December 4, 2008, 12:17 PM
MJ1, really nice. I went through Military Gun Supply in FT. Worth recently, they had a wall of Swedes, including 63's and 80's.


Ben

MJ1
December 4, 2008, 02:52 PM
Your quick for a Texacan. And here I thought I had everyone fooled into thinking I wanted to see their pictures. LOL :D

Swede 6.5 AG42b

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DoctorXring
December 4, 2008, 09:35 PM
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I really like the 6.5x55 for both hunting and target.


Two of my favorite target guns are Danish target rifles
that were rebuilt off of WWII era German K98 rifles/actions.

The first is an M52 which used a remodeled K98 stock,
the second is an M69 which used a target type stock.

Both were built by the firm of Schultz and Larsen and used
their barrels, triggers, sights. Both are very accurate
and fun to shoot. These rifles were used in the Danish
"civilian marksmanship" program, similar to our DCM/CMP.



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/doctorxring/M52-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/doctorxring/M52-4.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/doctorxring/M69-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/doctorxring/M69-3.jpg

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jfruser
December 10, 2008, 03:01 PM
Oh, yeah.

I ran my Swede Mauser 96/38 in an Appleseed.

Calfed
December 10, 2008, 06:25 PM
DXR, I love those target guns.

How do they stack up against a CG63, in your opinion?

I've heard that Schultz and Larsen make some really accurate small bore rifles.

DoctorXring
December 10, 2008, 08:23 PM
CalFed --

Thanks. I was lucky to find these rifles.
I've had two CG63's. I've just got one now. Both were
also very accurate. Coincidentally, the CG63's also had
Schultz & Larsen barrels on them. Same 6.5x55 chambering,
of course.

So the rifles are very similar, especially the M69 and the
CG63, having the target type stocks. The actions are similar
in rigidity, etc. They were used for similar courses of fire.
The M69 and CG63 are competitive.

If forced to pick one, I would pick the M69 because of it's
trigger. It has a multi-lever trigger and has a very fine release.
The CG63 (and the M58) have "touched" standard triggers. Very
nice though for standard triggers.

If anyone is looking for an M69, there is one on Gunbroker.
The guy's price is a little sweet for me, or I would have picked it up.
He has it listed as an M58. In fact, this fellow that has this one
is the person I got my M58 from.

I remember when AIM surplus recieved a batch of M58's and M69's
around a year ago. About 150 rifles. They threw them up on their
website for I think $300. Their phones rang off the wall. I was
distracted from the sport at that time and had not been watching
the forums. I was very sad when I found out about these rifles
coming in and not getting one. The M69 I have was one out of
that batch. I bought it from a collector that got more than one and
decided later he wanted to sell one of them. I was glad to have
him make a $200 profit on it. :)

dxr



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wgb_ks
December 10, 2008, 10:26 PM
When I bough my m-38 and m-96 would could buy them for about $100-$200 apiece. Ah those where the days. At the Tulsa gun show in '96 one guy was selling mint '96's for $80!!! I wish I bough more. I know a guy that has about 20 M-94, M-96, M-38. His collection is very impressive. Most of these guns are in very good shape.

Calfed
December 13, 2008, 11:48 AM
When I bough my m-38 and m-96 would could buy them for about $100-$200 apiece

Don't give up hope, wgb. Good deals are still out there. They just take time and patience. I recently (with in the last few weeks) got 2 husky M38's and a CG M96 for $530 plus 15% (plus California sales tax, of course--Ahhnold always gets his cut) at an estate sale.

MJ1
December 13, 2008, 12:20 PM
Some times it takes years to find just what you looking for.

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wgb_ks
December 16, 2008, 12:16 AM
That is a very nice sniper m-96 (above), I think they are called m-41??? I shot one of those some time ago. They are really accurate. I think my group was 4" at 300 yards from a 80 year old gun!!!

Boz07
September 27, 2009, 09:32 AM
I know this thread is old but I hope someone reads it soon!

Hi there, this is my first post. I have created a Wikipedia page about the M52 Target Rifle and variants and I ask for permission to use the excellent photos in this thread of the M52 and M69 to put on the Wikipedia page.

Also, any more sources of info about these rifles to improve the page would be welcome.

You can view the page at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schultz_%26_Larsen_M52_Target_Rifle

I own a Schultz and Larsen target rifle in 7.62mm NATO built on a Gew 98 action, with a stock similar the the M69 shown in this thread, but the bolt handle is turned down into a Kar98k style stock recess. The receiver ring markings have been removed and a new serial added, with the bolt numbered to match. It is in excellent condition, but the barrel is worn, though it still shoots well (though it kicks harder than any 7.62mm NATO rifle I have ever shot). It has been modified with a Central micrometer target sight attached to a brazed extension on the tang, as the original sight on the receiver bridge only went up to 600m apparently. I have a couple of photos I will attempt to add here, but they are nowhere near as good as the photos further up the thread.

Thanks.

MJ1
October 7, 2009, 06:14 PM
I don't have an answer to your question.

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RonC
October 10, 2009, 01:18 PM
I just picked up two Swedish M96 Mausers made very early in the 20th Century.
Also, I just received some surplus 6.55 ammo, even some wooden bullet ones. Most of the ammo I received contains standard bullets, but the ones with the wooden projectiles were so inexpensive that I wanted to give them a try.
If it is clear tomorrow, Sunday, I will be out at the range shooting 6.5x55!

Ron

emcon5
October 10, 2009, 01:51 PM
The wooden bullets are actually blanks, designed to be used with an adapter screwed on the threaded muzzle.

On edit:

Like this: http://www.surplusbunker.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=369&products_id=4237&zenid=2b7b67865baabd984d8e5fa10559bdc3

RonC
October 10, 2009, 02:06 PM
Interesting, emcon5. The description at SAMCO reads as if it is actually shootable, launching a projectile. It is not described as a blank. I have seen the blank ammo sold on the net.
"6.5 x 55 Swedish Ball with Wooden Bullet Swedish Mfg. NC/BE
Packed 20 rounds per box, 200 rounds per pack, 800 rounds per case. Wt. #28 Lbs. per case.
Caution: Special should be taken when firing this ammo. Wooden bullets can penetrate."

Thanks,
Ron

JohnKSa
October 10, 2009, 02:24 PM
They are launched at substantial velocity and can be dangerous, but I doubt that they will be satisfactory for actual target practice. I'll be interested to see what kind of results you get.

emcon5
October 10, 2009, 02:43 PM
The description at SAMCO reads as if it is actually shootable, launching a projectile. It is not described as a blank. They are shootable, and they do launch the wooden projectile. That is what the adapter was for, to keep the projectile from going anywhere.

A translation of the manual is here, they are mentioned:

http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/swede_m38-m41b-m96.pdf

oneounceload
October 10, 2009, 03:30 PM
Bought a 96 carbine back in the 80's for $55 at a gun show - included 2 -200 round military ammo packs, had a Lyman peep sight installed. While the stock was original (matching numbers), it had been sporterized - someone had made it a pistol grip........made in 1907, it will shoot 3 120gr Sierras into 1 inch at 100 (now with a Burris compact 4x) when I do my part....less recoil than my model 7 in 7-08

RonC
October 10, 2009, 04:47 PM
Thank you for that information, emcon5 and JohnKSa!
The manual emcon5 supplied has the wooden blank cartridge illustrated just as he said. If it is accurate at 50 meters, maybe I can get some use out of them. If it is not, then I am just out about $19 for 200 rounds.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1270/swedishmausermineelites.jpg
Ron

m.p.driver
October 10, 2009, 05:08 PM
Still have 3 96's and 3 38's that i bought in the hey day.Two i bought at a local sporting good store for the princely sum of $36,the other four for $79 ,all matching and in great shape.Of course you could also buy a FN-49 or an Hakim for $79 so those days are long gone.And dont try to scare off a stray cat with the wooden projectiles,i know from experience they are lethal.

skydiver3346
October 10, 2009, 05:38 PM
Hey MJ1,
It is definitely my favorite caliber, period. I don't have the older Swede rifles but do have one in a Blazer K95 and R93. I love to hunt with both rifles even though they are the same caliber. I love shooting single shots which is why I bought the K95. SWEET.....:)

Flipper 56
October 12, 2009, 07:25 PM
My favorite rifle round, bar none. I started off with Swedish M-96 and M-38 which led me to my Tikka Hunter. I live in the Catskills and it'll take anything.:cool:

Boz07
November 9, 2009, 01:27 PM
Here is my Schultz & Larsen M69. It is in 7.62mm NATO (notwithstanding the title of this thread!) and it has an Australian Central target micrometer rearsight in place of the original. A mount has been brazed to the left of the tang to attach it. The original rearsight was mounted on the bridge, and there are 2 tapped holes (now with screws filling them) for the Danish sight.

It shoots very accurately despite a worn barrel, but despite its weight and rubber buttplate it kicks harder than any 7.62mm bolt action I've ever shot (I used to own an Israeli K98k).

While the receiver ring has been cleaned of markings, there is still the "Gew. 98" marking on the left of the receiver, signifying that it came from a WW1 era rifle. There is a new serial number on the right side of the receiver ring.

It differs from DoctorXRing's M69 in the shape of the bolt handle and corresponding stock recess. Anyone know anything about this?

Also, has anyone got any good sources of information on these rifles to add to the Wikipedia page (now graced with DoctorXRing's excellent photos after he gave permission for their use).

Calfed
November 10, 2009, 12:12 AM
Finally scored a CG 80. Auction pic for now.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/CG80-1.jpg

I'll post better when it arrives

MJ1
November 10, 2009, 10:18 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/2d7246d1.jpg

Thanks for the replies

beeker77
November 13, 2009, 03:02 PM
Okay, there's a lone 8mm down there at the bottom (Hakim). :rolleyes:

http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr195/beeker77/2008-10-12PIC_inlcudes_LjungmanHaki.jpg

Water-Man
November 13, 2009, 03:08 PM
Great round! Hard to beat! I use a TIKKA T3 Hunter and it's accurate and dependable.