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Firepower!
December 1, 2008, 03:48 AM
recently I had a chance to buy a scoprion in 32ACP. i passed the oppertunity because the barrel had a few rust marks. The guys asking 700 dollars for it. I want to know if it can be fixed?

And if i can find an untouched or near new conditions is it worth buying? Price about 1300 dollars.

How effective is this and whats the intended role?

rogertc1
December 1, 2008, 06:10 AM
Silly .32 semi-auto pistol is just a novelity, at least in the USA.
I copy and paste:
The Scorpion SA Vz 61 Submachine Gun
Jumping Jehoshaphat! This little humdinger of a submachinegun (SMG) produced in the Czech Republic is just what you'd expect to see in the hands of some evil terrorist in a Batman or Schwarzenegger movie sequel! The name alone can scare the daylights out of ya'!

The Scorpion has a history almost as exciting as its name. This true machine pistol (machinepistole) is capable of full-auto, single-hand fire or, with its tubular, metal shoulder stock or fixed, wooden stock extended, it works just as well as a standard, shoulder-fired submachinegun-take your pick. I believe I'll try the special ops silenced version, thank you.

Development of this SMG began in the late 1950s with application for non-infantry types in need of a lightweight personal defense weapon (can you say, pistol replacement for officers?). The weapon's subsonic speed, thanks to the 7.65x17 Browning or .32 ACP caliber-version, makes it readily adapted for stealth/silenced mode of operation popular with military Special Forces or terrorist types.

With the adoption of the Soviet 9x18 mm Makarov pistol cartridge, the Scorpion was issued to Czech army units in the early 1980s, and it has been exported. A licensed version of the Scorpion was produced in Yugoslavia.

There is a Scorpion for several calibers-from the .32 ACP to the Makarov to the 9x17 (.380 ACP), and the more common 9x18 and 9x19 Luger/Parabellum.Depending on the model, the Scorpion weighs a svelte, 1.28 kilograms (2.82 pounds) without the magazine.

Again, depending on the model, its overall length is an abbreviated 270mm (10.6 inches) long, with its retractable stock folded up and out of the way (i.e., over the upper receiver). Fully extended, the Scorpion is 517mm (20.35 inches) in length. The barrel length is 115mm or 4.5 inches, and the rate of fire for this little beauty is an amazing 850 rounds per minute. Magazines include a 10- or 20-round clip.

A close-quarter machinepistole, the Scorpion has an effective range of 25 meters (82 feet), making it desirable to terrorists.

http://rainbowsix.wikia.com/wiki/Skorpion_VZ83

B. Lahey
December 1, 2008, 07:23 AM
Well, it's a submachinegun that will fit in a large coat pocket, so I would guess that its purpose is to be a close-range concealable bullet-hose.

smee78
December 1, 2008, 10:35 AM
Is it a sub gun or the semi auto copy??? If it's the real thing why not. $700 to get into full auto shooting sounds good, I know that ammo is more costly but you better get it while you can before they are all gone.

Firepower!
December 1, 2008, 12:29 PM
i have ordered one!

Leaving on a spiritual journey tomorow, so it should be here when i get back.

I am going for the full auto version.

rogertc1
December 1, 2008, 10:24 PM
Should be a good gun

Firepower!
December 2, 2008, 03:26 AM
ok. I got a deal. Ak74 is going a scorpion is coming in....when it does i will post pic.

Not sad aabout letting go ak74 since have then a plenty but Scorpion is hard to come by....a novelty in collection alongside FA Mauser and Stichken.

Chipperman
December 3, 2008, 06:31 PM
Not sad aabout letting go ak74 since have then a plenty but Scorpion is hard to come by.

Sounds like a smart move. You can get AKs easily enough. Focus on the rare and unusual things. Is .32ACP easy to get for you?

Firepower!
December 6, 2008, 05:59 AM
32 acp is easy to get but bullets are more expensive than 9.

I am thinking whether to get a fully auto version or a semi. i am only thinking semi because its easier to get a license for as oppose FA.

Suggestions?

Chipperman
December 6, 2008, 12:54 PM
Well, I'm not in your shoes but to me it seems that the semi-auto would not be worth the bother. You're buying this just for fun, right? If you get the semi, you'll always wish you had the fun switch on it.

Go for the full-auto.

Ridge_Runner_5
December 6, 2008, 02:38 PM
You can always bump fire it ;)

Chipperman
December 6, 2008, 03:16 PM
Are you winking because you put an eye out bump firing a pistol? :p

TROY308
December 7, 2008, 01:26 AM
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/VZ61-BL.aspx

Teppo Sensei
December 7, 2008, 02:39 AM
Scorpion SA Vz 61 7.65x17mm
Scorpion SA Vz 83 9x17
Scorpion SA Vz 82 9x18
Scorpion SA Vz 68 9x19mm

id get 1 in 9x19

Firepower!
December 8, 2008, 08:10 AM
the ones available out here is in .32acp

Firepower!
January 9, 2009, 03:14 AM
Finally got one!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo128/Firepower1/Skorpion.jpg

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo128/Firepower1/Skorpion2.jpg

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo128/Firepower1/Skorpion1.jpg

And I got it in exchange for my only Taurus!!!!!

Chipperman
January 9, 2009, 01:54 PM
Nice!
Is it full-auto?

smee78
January 9, 2009, 05:08 PM
How well doess it handle?

Michael Bane
January 11, 2009, 08:55 PM
Went to the CZ factory in the Czech Republic just to go down in the basement and shoot all the Skorpions. I love the things! Perfect gun for assaulting a phone booth.

Michael B

Michael Bane
SHOOTING GALLERY
THE BEST DEFENSE

Firepower!
January 12, 2009, 11:14 AM
handles very well.
it wasnt full auto when I bought it:)

I think its an interested little piece of history

kym
January 17, 2009, 10:26 PM
"And I got it in exchange for my only Taurus!!!!!"

You traded a Taurus for it? What kind?

Firepower!
February 4, 2009, 05:24 AM
It was a Taurus .45ACP.

I cant understand why the guy took Taurus for it let alone for anything!

zakmatthews
February 5, 2009, 11:28 PM
That's either got an RT receiver or an original receiver. That's worth a lot of money. Is it a registered SBR like it should be?

Who's the fool who traded w/ you? I want to trade him some of my crap for something as rare as that!

MrNiceGuy
February 6, 2009, 12:43 AM
That's either got an RT receiver or an original receiver. That's worth a lot of money. Is it a registered SBR like it should be?

Who's the fool who traded w/ you? I want to trade him some of my crap for something as rare as that!

he's in pakistan

i made that mistake too

Firepower!
February 7, 2009, 04:25 AM
the fool is some kid who inherited it and wanted a bling bling Taurus instead. How sad for him

Firepower!
February 7, 2009, 05:49 AM
As a matter of fac, I am looking for that fool again to exchange my rossi for something like this again!

B. Lahey
February 7, 2009, 07:54 PM
Heck yeah. Maybe he would trade a DShK .51 or an SVT-40 for the Rossi?:D

Yellowfin
February 11, 2009, 02:25 AM
It's like a super Seecamp on Mr. Hyde juice. I like it! Wish we could get them freely in the States. :(

Firepower!
February 13, 2009, 09:35 AM
Lahey, plan on coming out this way sometime.

B. Lahey
February 14, 2009, 12:55 PM
OK.:)

It may be a while, though. I'll probably work for the state for a few years after I graduate, underpaid and overworked. International shooting vacations will come later (hopefully).