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Bitmap
November 30, 2008, 11:51 AM
We were waiting for a deer a couple of weeks ago and my 7yo just couldn't resist the urge when a bunch of turkey landed around us.

Here are a couple of likely dinners.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2008-2009%20hunting/radturkey8.jpg

Aiming at a turkey.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2008-2009%20hunting/radturkey9.jpg

The shot!!
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2008-2009%20hunting/radturkey10.jpg

The bird is down.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2008-2009%20hunting/radturkey11.jpg

The big boy and his bird.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2008-2009%20hunting/radturkey12.jpg

FrontSight
November 30, 2008, 09:17 PM
Sweeet, where is it allowed to bait and shoot turkeys with a rifle? I want to move there :D

Wildalaska
November 30, 2008, 09:24 PM
Sweeet, where is it allowed to bait and shoot turkeys with a rifle?

Yeah I'd like to know that too:cool:

WildandAlaska TM

Bitmap
November 30, 2008, 10:50 PM
Sweeet, where is it allowed to bait and shoot turkeys with a rifle? I want to move there

Any four bird county in TX.

Wildalaska
November 30, 2008, 11:00 PM
Really? Tell us why the regulations state:

"Shotguns are the only legal firearm that may be used to hunt Eastern turkey during the spring Eastern turkey season (see County Listing). Rifles and handguns may not be used to hunt Eastern turkey. "

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/means/

Is there an exception I am missing?

WildpleaseletusknowAlaska TM

Yithian
November 30, 2008, 11:55 PM
You really need to read the anual from TX.
Each county has specifics about how many, with what, and when.

Bird Hunting can get complicated. So, its best to have the book before hand and read up on your prospective county.

Is that an Eastern Turkey?
Is it turkey season or Spring Eastern Turkey season?
LOL
If the bird is a Rio, and he has the available tag for the county he is in, then the kids fine.
(I'm not up on the birds, Rio or not. I don't hunt them.)

Heck, for that matter, is he in TX? LOL

Bitmap
December 1, 2008, 12:16 AM
Originally post by WildIdontknowwhatImtalkingaboutAlaska:

Really? Tell us why the regulations state:

"Shotguns are the only legal firearm that may be used to hunt Eastern turkey during the spring Eastern turkey season (see County Listing). Rifles and handguns may not be used to hunt Eastern turkey. "

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publicat...al/hunt/means/

Is there an exception I am missing?

WildpleaseletusknowAlaska TM

Maybe you should go back and actually read the TPWD Annual that you linked to. The Eastern turkey and spring Eastern turkey season you quoted are not the same as Rio Grande turkey and hunting Rio Grande turkey in counties other than the 43 eastern counties listed. I don't know when spring is where you live, but spring isn't in November here. Try fall season.

I'll make it easy for you:

Turkey

The annual bag limit for Rio Grande and Eastern turkey, in the aggregate for all counties, is four (4), no more than one of which may be an Eastern turkey. For counties that have an Eastern Turkey spring season, there is no fall season.

* Fall:

Open season: November 1, 2008-January 4, 2009 (either sex).

Archery Only: September 27-October 31, 2008.
* Spring:

Rio Grande turkey: Open season: April 4-May 17, 2009 (gobblers only).

Special Youth-Only (Rio Grande turkey): Open season: March 28-29 and May 23-24, 2009.

Next time, if you don't know or understand, why don't you ask for information instead of accusing someone of illegal activity?

Wildalaska
December 1, 2008, 12:32 AM
Next time, if you don't know or understand, why don't you ask for information instead of accusing someone of illegal activity?

Asking is not an accusation, is it?

WildunusualAlaska TM

hogdogs
December 1, 2008, 01:01 AM
In Florida we cannot ever hunt over bait for any "game" animal. In our "spring" turkey season we are limited to shotguns but during fall season which runs with deer season we can use shotguns or centerfire rifle rounds.
Brent

Bitmap
December 1, 2008, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by WildnowImchangingmyattitudeAlaska:

Asking is not an accusation, is it?


Classic mother-in-law. Hint something isn't right. Imply. Quote (or misquote) regulations that you don't understand. All with the intention of causing trouble. When the intended victim says "What exactly are you trying to say MIL?" the reply is "What do you mean?" and an innocent look.

So, Wildalaska, have you quit beating your wife, yet? Asking is not an accusation, is it?

Originally posted by hogdogs:

In Florida we cannot ever hunt over bait for any "game" animal. In our "spring" turkey season we are limited to shotguns but during fall season which runs with deer season we can use shotguns or centerfire rifle rounds.


The rules do vary from state to state. In TX the only restrictions on bait are federal restrictions on migratory game birds which nobody can avoid. Firearms for turkey vary by county. 43 "eastern" counties are one bird limit, spring season only with a shotgun or archery only. 100+ "western" counties are 4 bird combined limit (spring: gobblers only, fall: either sex), any firearm or archery.

Brad Clodfelter
December 1, 2008, 06:24 AM
First off, I'm not here to pass judgment, nor am I going to tell you I don't approve of rifles for turkeys even though shotguns is the only way in MO we can hunt them. Your laws are different.

My question is what is the legal hunting age for a youngster in your state?

According to this it is 9yrs of age.

http://www.tyhp.org/index.html

Maybe you can shed some light on the subject.

hogdogs
December 1, 2008, 10:04 AM
Youth Hunting License (Type 169): $6
Valid for any person, resident or non-resident, under 17 years of age at the date of license purchase. Exempt from state stamp requirements. License and state stamp exemptions remain valid for the entire license year.

Taken from...
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/hunt_licenses/
Brent

Bitmap
December 1, 2008, 06:53 PM
My question is what is the legal hunting age for a youngster in your state?

According to this it is 9yrs of age.

http://www.tyhp.org/index.html

Maybe you can shed some light on the subject.

Apparently, the Texas Youth Hunting Program is a way for people to get their kids on hunts. I've never heard of TYHP before. It is not a required government program in Texas and since I have a place to hunt I haven't looked into anything like this. Note that 9 years is the minimum age to participate in that program, not a minimum age to hunt in TX. In Texas there is no minimum age for hunting.

And hogdogs is correct. I pay $6 for each of their hunting licenses and that covers all stamps and endorsements except for federal stamps.

I also don't see how anyone could have a problem with using a rifle or handgun for turkey. Lot's of people shoot turkey a lot farther away with a shotgun than I typically do with a rifle or handgun. The range you see in that pic is about 15 yards.

I will also further scandalize TFL by saying that both kids have shot turkeys from the back of a pickup. Now I know someone will say "But that is illegal in Texas. Here is a link to some website that proves it, blah, blah, blah, . . . " which is true, except that it is only illegal on public property. I don't make a habit of having them shoot from a vehicle, but sometimes the opportunity comes up.

Yithian
December 1, 2008, 07:16 PM
The TYHP is a state funded, "Get your kids into hunting" program.
It is not required to take.
All that is required is that the youth hunter is accompanied by a licenced hunter whom has taken the hunters safety course.
Youth hunters over the age of 14 (it may be 12) must have taken the hunters safety course as well.

Don't mind Wild, Bit.
He's just uninformed and looking to be informed.
Until you get to know him tho, he can be read as passive-hostile.
He's really a very nice guy. And a great source for firearms information.

Bitmap
December 1, 2008, 07:25 PM
All that is required is that the youth hunter is accompanied by a licenced hunter whom has taken the hunters safety course.
Youth hunters over the age of 14 (it may be 12) must have taken the hunters safety course as well.

You don't have to take the safety course if you are old enough. I don't know the exact age but I'm "old enough". Young hunters don't have to take the safety course until they are 17 I think, as long as they are accompanied. As you noted if they are over a certain age and have taken the course they don't have to be accompanied. I plan on accompanying my kids for a while so I haven't looked into all the particulars on that.

Don't mind Wild, Bit.
He's just uninformed and looking to be informed.
Until you get to know him tho, he can be read as passive-hostile.
He's really a very nice guy. And a great source for firearms information.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. I have read some of his posts from time to time and agree that he seems knowledgeable about a lot of things, but not about Texas hunting regs.

cspit
December 1, 2008, 08:00 PM
Well I enjoyed that. You learn something everday
Up here in Ontario you got to take a course to hunt
and a course to hunt turkey and then there is a draw
and the bird has to be the right size.
Some years ago there were none but they are coming back real good
Shootgun and bow only
As most of you know we can't hunt with handguns at all.
Sorry you can shoot steel turkey with handgun. ;)

Claims Rep.
December 1, 2008, 08:11 PM
Congrats to your son! (Wasn't that the original intent of this thread?):D

doncameron
December 1, 2008, 08:23 PM
I agree!
The kid used a rifle and got himself a turkey.
Heck, I know some grown men who can't get one with a shotgun on a baited field or not.

Congrats!

rem870hunter
December 1, 2008, 10:55 PM
congrats on the turkey harvest. it's screwy here. can only use a shotgun or bow for turkey. no rifles.

Fat White Boy
December 2, 2008, 12:48 AM
There are different laws every where for taking different game birds. In California, of all places, hand guns are legal for hunting grouse...

nra_guns_winner
December 2, 2008, 01:35 AM
I'm not sure, was this a special youth hunt? Wow did you eat him for thanksgiving? Can your boy read TX. regs?

Brad Clodfelter
December 2, 2008, 08:43 AM
Thanks for the details.

Tell you son congrats.

He done well.

Bitmap
December 2, 2008, 09:47 AM
Heck, I know some grown men who can't get one with a shotgun on a baited field or not.

I've seen a few men miss a turkey with a shotgun and quite a few miss with a rifle. The bird isn't as big as it looks and some people that can hit a deer at 100 yards will miss a turkey at 50 or even 25.

One man I know took his son-in-law hunting and they saw a bunch of turkeys in a group. The SIL fired and knocked down a bird. The FIL told him it was a nice shot and the SIL replied "That wasn't the one I was aiming at."

Congrats to your son! (Wasn't that the original intent of this thread?)

My original intent was mostly to show off and make all of you jealous, but a lot of what you said, too.

Up here in Ontario you got to take a course to hunt
and a course to hunt turkey and then there is a draw
and the bird has to be the right size.
Some years ago there were none but they are coming back real good

With so many people lacking parents and grandparents to show them how to hunt safely and explain the rules to them, plus the complexity of the rules themselves in many cases, I can understand the requirements for classes. Turkeys were introduced or reintroduced to this area 20+ years ago and they have thrived. I can remember when the limit was 2 birds, then they raised it to 3, now it's up to 4. They roost on our farm and the farm next to us and on a typical morning I'll see over 100 at one time when they come off the roost.

I'm not sure, was this a special youth hunt? Wow did you eat him for thanksgiving? Can your boy read TX. regs?

I said in the original post that it was a couple of weeks ago, but it might have been 3 or 4, between my in-laws coming to visit and the Thanksgiving holiday I've sort of lost track. We have a youth "pre-season" here where kids can use guns the weekend before regular gun season, which is the last weekend of archery season. This year it was November 1-2. There is another youth post-season two weeks after the end of the regular season. To be honest, I don't remember if this was during the youth pre-season or the opening day of regular season.

We didn't eat the turkey for Thanksgiving. My mom won't cook or eat a wild turkey. My wife made a sort of casserole out of him and he was very tasty.

I haven't shown him the rule book. He reads above his grade level and I suspect he could read the words but some of the meaning would be lost on him. This is the reason kids his age have to be accompanied. Many kids his age (and older, and some supposed grownups as well) can sit still and quiet enough and shoot well enough, but not have the judgment or cool nerves to take legal game or to be safe. It takes time and experience to make a good, safe hunter and shooter and I don't think it is ever too early to start. I think it's good for young hunters to have some fairly easy success at first so they don't get discouraged. Hunting and shooting are also privileges that can be repealed for bad enough or unsafe behavior and the kids know I won't hesitate to do it.

Logs
December 2, 2008, 09:51 AM
Congrats to the youngman nice birds I bet he had a Blast..... :D

I hunted in Mississippi and they allowed rifles for birds.

My dad is 60 years old and this spring I called in his first Tom for him. I would rather see my son or father shoot a bird then take another one myself. It is good to see youngsters out in the field.

cspit
December 2, 2008, 10:30 AM
With so many people lacking parents and grandparents to show them how to hunt safely and explain the rules to them, plus the complexity of the rules themselves in many cases, I can understand the requirements for classes. Turkeys were introduced or reintroduced to this area 20+ years ago and they have thrived. I can remember when the limit was 2 birds, then they raised it to 3, now it's up to 4. They roost on our farm and the farm next to us and on a typical morning I'll see over 100 at one time when they come off the roost.

Your right I was just talking to my son he and one of his twins
were out and my grandson shot a couple of squirrels
he is in grade two.
I bought that 22 for my son when just gitting started and it will
hammer nails. It was nice to hear
All on private land.

AUG
December 3, 2008, 02:31 PM
Tell the boy 'good job' on the bird.

signed,

ihateitwhenpeoplejoininwithoutaclue

cat9x
December 3, 2008, 02:54 PM
great post, my first turkey was taken with a 6mm Rem though I'm a shotgun'ner now. Congrats to your son thats great stuff!

armedtotheteeth
December 10, 2008, 08:03 PM
keep those youngsters out in the field, the blind, or sitting on a 5 gallon busket with a shotgun. We have to pass hunting on. with all the stuff for youngsters to do these days, it would be easy to "forget" about hunting. "too many regulations. too expensive..." After all. "the 2Nd amendment is all about hunting" .:rolleyes:

JonnyReb
December 10, 2008, 08:34 PM
Awesome job on the bird. So glad to see fathers taking the time...

Heres a photo from the fall season here,

Guess i better say before posting that this pose was for intent of photo only and the gun was unloaded. We shot less than our limit and yes, we are both properly licensed. Jay wore both eye and ear protection while shooting and his .410 is legal for use on the non-baited birds. Those ARE decoys in the background wire and they ARE legal for use in N.C. We obeyed all game laws to the best of our knowledge and i don't know what else to say to stay off the frying pan.... :rolleyes:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z252/xxjonnyrebxx/100_0682.jpg

AUG
December 11, 2008, 09:15 AM
great pic

you should frame it and put it in the living room

Buzzard Bait
December 11, 2008, 10:22 AM
:):):)Wow the smiling faces of those young and successful hunters are beautiful. And the FUTURE of our sport.
The antis know that too that's why they try and throw as many restrictions on youth hunting as they can.
We can not let the anti hunting bas___ds win!
Take as many children hunting as you can encourage others to do the same. Make every effort to make it a fun and enjoyable outing, model good safety and hunting ethics.
The future of the sport and lots more depend on it (you will find it very rewarding for your self too)
now if some one will give me some tips on how to up load pictures I will post a pic of my daughter with her deer I tried the other day but couldn't.t get it to work.

Buzzard Bait

fisherman66
December 11, 2008, 10:23 AM
Thanks for sharing the exciting moment. Kid hunting picts are the best hunting picts.

Bitmap
December 11, 2008, 04:25 PM
Guess i better say before posting that this pose was for intent of photo only and the gun was unloaded. We shot less than our limit and yes, we are both properly licensed. Jay wore both eye and ear protection while shooting and his .410 is legal for use on the non-baited birds. Those ARE decoys in the background wire and they ARE legal for use in N.C. We obeyed all game laws to the best of our knowledge and i don't know what else to say to stay off the frying pan....

Are you sure that's legal? Are you sure that you shot less than the limit? Let me look up the game laws in your area and make sure you weren't doing something illegal. Blah, blah, blah, blah . . . :rolleyes:;)

It's a shame we have to go through that kind of stuff on a forum dedicated to firearms.

Great looking pic.

JonnyReb
December 11, 2008, 04:50 PM
Amazing to me as a new poster to see everyone get along like they do. I've seen so little pettiness here compared to some other forums i've been on. Refreshing.

It IS all about getting new hunters involved. I think of the men who mentored me and know i would not be who i am without their knowledge and wisdom.

My wife has just started hunting as well, the influence of women in our sport will prove to be part of what saves it for future generations...J.R.

Daryl
December 12, 2008, 07:42 AM
Sheesh, y'all are sure trying hard to find something wrong with a kid shooting his first turkey. I got burned out reading the first page!

Last time I hunted turkey here in Arizona, it was legal to shoot them with a shotgun, centerfire handgun, centerfire rifle, or a .22 mag rifle.

And the only critters we can't hunt over bait, I'm pretty sure, are bears and migratory birds. They're trying to change some of that, but so far I don't think it's happened. I don't hunt over baits, so don't usually keep up with changes that affect it, but I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it if it'd changed.

Congrat's the the OP's kid for taking his first turkey, and congrat's the the OP for getting some neat pictures of it.

Daryl

Bitmap
December 12, 2008, 08:48 AM
Sheesh, y'all are sure trying hard to find something wrong with a kid shooting his first turkey. I got burned out reading the first page!


That's what I thought. OTOH I've never gotten this many replies to a thread I started.

And the only critters we can't hunt over bait, I'm pretty sure, are bears and migratory birds. They're trying to change some of that, but so far I don't think it's happened.

I think you'll have to convince the feds about hunting migratory birds over bait.


Congrat's the the OP's kid for taking his first turkey,

He got his first turkey last year. He's taken two so far this year. Before anyone goes off half-cocked the yearly limit is four birds, either sex in the fall.

Here he is with his first turkey.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2007hunting/tom4.jpg

Here he is the same night calling his grandmother to tell her about it.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/2007hunting/tom5.jpg

Daryl
December 12, 2008, 11:41 AM
I think you'll have to convince the feds about hunting migratory birds over bait.


No, I meant change it the other way. They want to add some critters to the list, not take 'em away. I hear bowhunters (and I'm a bowhunter too, but haven't hunted over baits) have been killing a lot of deer using baits, and that just can't be happening. The gub'mint folks feel like they just gotta do sumthin'.

I'm all for hunting the way you want, and as long as they don't try to regulate me spotting and stalking and such, I won't bother them in return.

;)

Daryl

fisherman66
December 12, 2008, 11:51 AM
The gub'mint folks feel like they just gotta do sumthin'.

They can feel that way all they want, but I've got a problem with them doing sumthin about the feeling and applying it to private land. Not that my problem with that will fix anything, but I'm a little sick of stupid regulations (my private hunting land is in a "doe days" county, where where's only one weekend to shoot does - stupid). We've got more does than you'd believe. We will have to get a LAMPS permit next year just to rebalance the herd. Sorry for the apples to oranges comment, but gub'mint regs don't make sense very often.