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MJ1
November 26, 2008, 04:10 PM
8X57 s such an old war horse that everyone must have at least one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/vote02.jpg

VaFisher
November 26, 2008, 07:21 PM
Yea I have a couple myself and the both are great shooters.

MJ1
November 26, 2008, 08:45 PM
...MJ...

GUNZABLAZIN
November 27, 2008, 12:09 AM
Nice Hakim, I Have One Too, I'll Have To Post Some Pictures!!!

MJ1
November 27, 2008, 01:11 AM
The 7.92X57 needs more press.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt126.jpg

Still used in the Balcanastans and Indiastan, Anyotherstan and Africananastan in the MG3. Oh and Yugostan.

I use some 1960's Germanystan 192g LMG ammo and pull 4.6g out of the case. Whoppin big recoilastan.


.............................:D.....................................

hayes1966
November 27, 2008, 08:08 PM
I just bought an FN 49 .. but am selling my Hakim t pay for it ..

http://members.cox.net/hayes1966/ebay/hak1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/hayes1966/ebay/hak2.jpg


I'll get a picture of the FN tomorrow !

VonFireball
November 27, 2008, 08:14 PM
I just bought an FN 49

The Rolls Royce of battle rifles.

Doesn't get much better than that. I picked up a barreled action for $350. Got a stock and new handguards that need finished and installed. Even bought a spare barrel for it, even though the one it came with was nice and sharp looking. I couldn't help myself. They were like sixty bucks from Sarco.

I just need to bed that action. To many projects in the works right now. As though that were a bad thing.

8mm mauser is a nasty round. A hair hotter than the 30-06. That makes for a pretty awesome battle rifle if you ask me. A bit on the heavy side, but damn, those FN49's are luxurious, ain't they?:)

Tamara
November 27, 2008, 08:33 PM
I like the round; it's plentiful, cheap, and packs a wallop. I have the FN-49, four Germans (Gew.88/05, Gew.98, Kar.98AZ, and Kar.98k), and two Chinese (Type 88 Hanyang and a Chiang Kai Shek). Oh, and a Portuguese Mauser-Vergueiro M1904/39.

MJ1
November 27, 2008, 09:05 PM
Made in Germany in the mid 1960's that has 48g of a powder like 4895 in it. I pull 4.5g out so I don't break tings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/vote03.jpg

hayes1966
November 27, 2008, 11:42 PM
Tamara .. the round used to be cheap but lately it has gone through the roof !!

arcticap
November 28, 2008, 12:14 AM
I'm selling some 8mm ammo in TFL's Buy, Sell, Trade sub-forum.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321445

MJ1
November 30, 2008, 11:19 AM
Is FNM 150g or 190g?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt017.jpg

jorjohn11
November 30, 2008, 07:03 PM
8mm and baby 8mm
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/jorjohn11/hakim001-2.jpg

DWARREN123
December 1, 2008, 04:52 AM
M48 Yugo bolt action rifle, possibly my favorite rifle of all time.

Calfed
December 5, 2008, 03:57 AM
8 x 57 I?
1904 Steyr Irish Mannlicher
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/irishmannlicher4.jpg
1915 GEW 88
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/GEW88002-1-1.jpg


or 8x 57 IS?
98/29 Persian Mauser
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/Persian006-1.jpg
Transitional GEW 98
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/GEW98012a.jpg
FN 49
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/FN49-1.jpg
Hakim
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/hakim002-1.jpg

MJ1
December 5, 2008, 12:53 PM
Thanks for sharing. This is a 44 byf vet rifle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/44byf11.jpg

All matching from a relative in the 1970's. No story went with it as to when he got it but I remember as kid seeing missing toes on him and he was an anti tank gunner on a 57mm. He once told me how the 57mm rounds bounced off the German tanks in the Bulge Dec. '44.

Cheers
...MJ...

Drachenstein
December 5, 2008, 06:45 PM
My old favorite, it's taken out many a deer.:D
http://usera.ImageCave.com/fcderosa/K98.JPG

My daughter started hunting at 14 with a 8mm Turkish Mauser, she's now 22 still won't use anything else.

MJ1
December 5, 2008, 09:21 PM
If you think of the power and recoile of the 192g service round this is amazing for it's accuracy and high rate of fire. I hauled an M60 for a few years around and could fire it standing from the shoulder, not well but I doubt I could do it with the 8mm.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/34585x1.jpg


...MJ...

claymore1500
December 5, 2008, 10:12 PM
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq155/claymore1500/DSCN0028.jpg

My little 8MM, gotta love it!

claymore1500
December 5, 2008, 10:18 PM
I hauled an M60 for a few years around and could fire it standing from the shoulder, not well but I doubt I could do it with the 8mm.

I am 6'4" 240#, while at the range one time I was sitting on a fibre glass pic-nic table bench, I tried firing from the shoulder, ten rounds from the FN49 pictured above, At around the 6th round I fell off of the end of the bench, That rifle was pushing me on the slick surface and I didn't realize it.

MJ1
December 5, 2008, 11:07 PM
on target with an M14E2 rapid fire @750 rpm with no buffer system it was a task to hit things past 200 yards. The buffer on the '60 at least let it float in your arms. I fired a '60 in a fine misting/rain one time and I could see the ball rounds tracing in a funnel like cone in the wet air while the tracers tracked another path. I put the target in the cented my eye had seen around the cone and the return fire stopped. The tracers went high left or some place else, it's been a long time. 40 years I think. Thats a long time, or not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/34585x1.jpg

..............MJ...................

Tom2
December 6, 2008, 09:40 AM
I quit shooting the 98 carbine type rifles as the ammo I had was the heavy ball stuff and the little cup buttplates etc. just beat me up too much. Gettin old you know. Still wish I had saved one of the vet bringbacks but I wasn't gonna be shootin them so passed them on.

DoctorXring
December 6, 2008, 09:36 PM
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This is my favorite 8x57 shooter. Kind of a "faux sniper"
that I put together myself. Leupold two piece mounts with
extra high rings and a Weaver K4-1 steel scope. Timney
trigger. I heated and bent the bolt down to clear the scope
and glass bedded the action. She will shoot 200 grain
Match Kings very well. I've also shot some deer with this
rifle. The rifle itself came to me as a Russian capture.
I cleaned up the stock on it and put some oil on it.

dxr




http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/doctorxring/K98-Sniper.jpg

Calfed
December 6, 2008, 10:09 PM
This is my favorite RC Mauser. Didn't realize that there were any banner RC's at the time that I got it.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/bannermauser.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/Calfed/bannermauser1.jpg

It is a total mixmaster, as befits an RC, but the bore is good.

MJ1
December 7, 2008, 11:07 AM
Thanks for posting.

...........http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/G0030.jpg

...:D...
...MJ...

gandog56
December 8, 2008, 03:47 PM
My only 8mm is a Steyr M95.

jfruser
December 10, 2008, 03:04 PM
A Turk and a Yugo Mauser hold up the 8x57 in my closet.

Dr. Strangelove
December 10, 2008, 03:26 PM
Wow. Makes we wish I had bought some Hakims years ago. When I was in high school, you could buy them out of a barrel in the local gun shop for something like $50.00, if I remember right?

MJ1
December 10, 2008, 05:24 PM
..................................:D...................................

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/G0036.jpg

Vergeltung
December 22, 2008, 01:22 PM
I just joined the 8mm club! I have a Mauser 98k, made in Steyr, Austria in 1941, and is an RC. 80-90% matching serial numbers, but, my hunch is that the furniture is from a later year.

love shooting it. taking it upstate for Christmas break, for some deep woods shootin' :)

kraigwy
December 22, 2008, 07:16 PM
Sorry for the Poopie picture. But this is my 8mm project. MANNILICHER SCHOENAUER Kal 8 NCRM which is the 8 MM short or 8 X 51. When I got the barreled action it had been butchered, rechambered to 7mm. I'm planning on restoring it to original. Problem being, the 8X51 was a .318 bore, not the .323 normal 8mm's. I got the reamer and head space gages but I'm having problems finding a barrel.

Also Reloading data is gonna be fun too. The only mention I've found on it was from Sharps Modern Reloading. He mentions the 8X51 but only says, 'IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN".

Oh well, it it was easy, it wouldnt be fun.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kraigwy/posting/websize/guns%20013.jpg

Vergeltung
December 22, 2008, 07:25 PM
sweet project! best of luck with it. you're right about the hard = fun part. :)

archangele
January 2, 2009, 07:49 PM
I have a 1930 vintage Persian Mauser that is in real nice shape.
I hand load for it and have had pretty good luck with the Nosler 180 gr and the Sierra HPBT Match 200 gr bullets. This has been the only rifle that I can hit torso sized targets with at 600 yards with open sights. I'd like to pick up a Hakim, but the prices around here have skyrocketed for those.

Gewehr98
January 2, 2009, 10:04 PM
And the owner of the surgically altered rifle owed me money, so I got it as partial payment.

I couldn't leave it in the hacked military stock, and the barrel had already been bobbed, so I did the next best thing, even though I'm usually loathe to sporterize nice milsurps.

I had a new bolt handle welded on, and when traveling in Europe during Desert Storm, I found a nice walnut sporter stock. The receiver was drilled and tapped, an 11-degree target crown was cut, Remington 700 iron backup sights were added, as was a Timney trigger, low-swing safety, and new Wolff striker spring. I had the barreled action parkerized, then glass-bedded it into the new stock.

It's become my favorite deer rifle in the collection. The vintage Weaver V8 variable kind of ties in the 1960s-vintage sporter appearance, yet doesn't overwhelm the rifle like some of the big objective lens scopes seen out there these days.

I handload 170-220gr rounds for the old girl, and have taken both Wyoming Elk and Wisconsin Whitetail. It ain't much in the aesthetics department, but it definitely does the job. :D

I've since converted that 8mm Mauser to 2-piece scope bases, and I've got a nice original Mauser double-set trigger to install later on.

http://mauser98.com/ambergbenchweaverright.jpg

It keeps an 8mm FN-49 company in one of my gun safes, and my two stepsons each have their own full-military Turkish 98 Mausers, so 8x57 is rather popular in our household. ;)

DoctorXring
January 2, 2009, 10:29 PM
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Oooooo LaLa. That is a nice sporter. I love guns like that.

DS triggers should perfect it !

dxr

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Wulfmann
January 3, 2009, 06:08 PM
I have been thinning my 8MM Mauser downs and have 14 now
One is a repro K98k sniper, 4 are mostly matching, 4 are RC K98k, 3 are M24/47 and 2 are M48s (one is a BO)
I also have 2 K98k and one VZ24 converted to 308 with new Norwegian K98k NATO barrels. The VZ24 is in K98k configuration

No offense, there is no such thing as an RC that is 80-90% matching.
They were stripped to the last part and only the barrel remained with the receiver. Russian electro pencil is not considered a match. It would be easier to find a lost winning lotto ticket that an 80% matched RC.

I will sell 3 of the 4 RCs at some point but one will remain with me.
The pictured BYF42.
It has no "X", I removed the RC blue, refinished the stock, replaced the bolt with an all matching bolt, replaced the trigger guard and floor plate with a set that matches each other and changed other parts so all parts are Oberndorf and same WaA inspection stamps.
Why do all this? I was getting some 3 inch groups at 200 yards iron sites.
I since put a scout rifle mount on it and first 5 round group was 1.5 inches all with Yugo 50's ammo.
Wulfmann
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/Wulfmann/BYF-42RC-L.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/Wulfmann/BYF-42RC-action.jpg

eric_2902
January 3, 2009, 08:09 PM
Whats the best deal I can get on a couple of military surplus 8MM rifles? I am looking to buy a couple different variety of surplus rifles for me and my son so we can have some fun (I mean quality bonding time).

Thanks

The Lovemaster
January 5, 2009, 01:17 PM
A little OT, but I came across a few interesting cases while sorting my range brass recently. They are marked with the Roman numeral "VIII", which I assume means 8mm, at twelve o'clock, "19" at 9:00 and "38" at 3:00, which I assume is the year, and they have the Third Reich wing and swastika at 6:00. The quandrants are separated by lines.

Anyone know if these are worth anything beyond the 1x fired brass?

Thanks.

Vergeltung
January 5, 2009, 01:22 PM
L-master, those are hard to come by! the last batch I saw on the inner-netz was sold out too fast to get them (the ones I saw were complete rounds, in original boxes, etc).

how did you come across them,? were they in with some MilSurp stuff you had? maybe some re-loads?

I definately think they are worth keeping! if not, I'll take 'em off your hands! ;)

The Lovemaster
January 5, 2009, 02:26 PM
No lie, I got them on a recent range trip, which means someone actually fired them. I am fairly incredulous at that, because I would never have fired them. I'm guessing there were more there, but we didn't get them. They look very similar to 7.62x54R, which I never pick up due to the berdan primers. It's more likely one of my kids picked these up. They're pretty cool looking, I want to polish one and see how it looks, but I'm sure that would lower its value.

Vergeltung
January 5, 2009, 03:08 PM
heck, in any condition they'd make great bookshelf ornaments &/or conversation pieces. nice find!!

beeker77
February 25, 2009, 02:44 PM
I have about 5k rounds of WW2 German 8mm, including 6 or 7 battle carrier boxes (with the cotton ribbon carrying handle), 2k of Romanian in spam cans, 1k of Yugo milsurp, a couple hundred WW2 FN, and more assorted 8mm milsurp in smaller quantities. To shoot all this, I have a Yugo-reworked K98k, a Mitchell's Mauser K98K (I know, ...Boo - Hissss), a 1916 Amberg Gew98, Yugo 24/47, Persian M29, Czech M22, 195? Hakim, and probably a couple more I can't think of right now. Yep, the 8mm is a shoulder thumper, but what a manly system! :p

Vergeltung
February 26, 2009, 08:33 AM
damn bruddah, you have that much actual german 8mm ammo? Jealous does not even begin to describe it!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Wulfmann
February 26, 2009, 02:01 PM
LM, the only 8MM stamped with a swastika was the 8X56R.

No 8X57 or 8MM Mauser was ever so marked as I have been told and have read.

The spent cases have little value really but I would hold on to them anyway as who knows what will happen later.

Wulfmann

Tamara
February 26, 2009, 02:52 PM
A little OT, but I came across a few interesting cases while sorting my range brass recently. They are marked with the Roman numeral "VIII", which I assume means 8mm, at twelve o'clock, "19" at 9:00 and "38" at 3:00, which I assume is the year, and they have the Third Reich wing and swastika at 6:00. The quandrants are separated by lines.

My psychic powers tell me that these cases are rimmed, have a slight taper, and are approximately 56mm in length.

How'm I doin' so far? ;)

Wartime berdan-primed 8x56mmR for a Steyr-Mannlicher. Before Graf's started selling new-production reloadable ammunition, it was worth saving the Jerry stuff to try and reload it. Now? Unless you have some antique brass collecting fetish, I'd just toss it.