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azsixshooter
November 26, 2008, 02:58 AM
I posted this at another forum, but I want to pique TFL's collective brain too!

Hi Guys,

I've got a nice service grade HRA on the way that I tagged last month at the CMP Western Games. I already bought a bayonet, FM 23-5, TM 9-1005-222-12 and a couple of armorer's videos on the M1 (I need something to do while I'm going nuts waiting!).

My question to all of you is what do you guys think I should pick up next and since I probably can't afford everything at once, in what order?

I'm thinking a good sling (not sure whether leather or GI web is better) and a complete buttstock cleaning kit would be prudent choices followed by a shooting coat (Mr. Gary Anderson himself suggested that to me at the 200 yard line while we were watching the contest). However, if there's anything you guys think I'll need upfront more than a sling and cleaning kit please let me know. I already have a spam can of 240 rounds that I picked up at the Western Games and I ordered a 192-round can of ammo in clips and bandoliers and another 240 round box with my rifle order. Here are some of the things on my to-get list, in no particular order:

-combo tool
-wool-lined GI rifle case
-spare parts (firing pin, extractor, ejector, hammer spring; any ideas are appreciated)
-linseed oil
-reloading dies
-brass/components
-Complete M1 and M1 Carbine book
-GI ammo belt to hold 10 en bloc clips

So come on guys, other than ANOTHER M1 Garand, what am I going to need??

armsmaster270
November 26, 2008, 03:23 AM
Oil & thong kit for the buttstock and Buttstock GI cleaning kit with gas nut tool

Tim R
November 26, 2008, 03:49 AM
Personally, I would not run a steel cleaning rod down the bore of any of my M-1's. I would suggest a coated single piece rod and muzzel guide. A chamber brush is nice once in awhile.

Did you know the cleaning kit will rattle when stored in the butt stock?

I have both leather and cloth slings. I like the leather ones better as I'm not fooling with the sling as much. I treat the leather slings with neatsfoot oil, not too much, just a light coat on each side. I keep the oil away from the keepers though.

A shooters coat helps with off hand. With all other positions the coat provides padding. A shooters glove, mat, and spotting scope. Then instead of watching.....shoot the match. :p

armsmaster270
November 26, 2008, 03:55 AM
Tim I agree on the coated rod but in an emergency its nice to have the option and you can dampen the rattle.

azsixshooter
November 26, 2008, 04:12 AM
I like the look and feel of the leather slings better too. I will probably buy one from the CMP store or Creedmoor Sports.

Can anyone come up with something to add to the list of must-have or highly-recommended accessories? Maybe some special tools or something? In one of the armorer's videos they showed using a ford wrench to hold the rifle while you remove the gas lock screw so I thought I'd probably pick one of those up and wrap electrical tape or something over the jaws so it doesn't scratch the finish up.

support_six
November 26, 2008, 04:39 PM
You need a bayonet!

azsixshooter
November 26, 2008, 09:20 PM
I already bought a bayonet, FM 23-5, TM 9-1005-222-12 and a couple of armorer's videos on the M1

After a can of ammo, that was the second thing I bought.

As far as spare parts go, is there any one thing that tends to break over the others? Any kind of M1 Achilles heel part that tends to break or wear out faster than others? This one I tagged had a stuck rear sight adjustment knob, but I had the CMP guys fix it right there in front of me.

Antipasta
November 26, 2008, 09:30 PM
A butt load of CMP's HXP ammo. It's still cheaper than reloading, but I save the brass for when it won't be. I got the HRA SG last year. I love it. Good luck with yours.

azsixshooter
November 26, 2008, 09:45 PM
Is that stuff all boxer primed? Primer crimped?

T. O'Heir
November 26, 2008, 10:33 PM
"...cheaper than reloading..." Reloading is about the quality of the ammo. Not the cost.
The Greek ammo is boxer primed and non-corrosive. The bullet attracts a magnet too. Primers being crimped or not really isn't an issue for reloading. Removing the crimp is a one time nuisance.

azsixshooter
November 26, 2008, 10:40 PM
The Greek ammo is boxer primed and non-corrosive.

That's great news. I uniform all of my primer pockets so that should take care of any primer pocket crimping, unless I'm wrong and you need some kind of special tool. Damn, now I'm going to need a Dillon Progressive and a bigger bench!

jpwilly
November 27, 2008, 01:17 AM
As for accessories...I'm in love with my Wenig Laminated Stock! Bling Bling!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p38/jpwilly/range020208002-1-2.jpg

blu97
November 27, 2008, 01:24 AM
Grenade launcher and sight?

azsixshooter
November 27, 2008, 01:31 AM
That stock is gorgeous, did you get it somewhere here in AZ?

jpwilly
November 27, 2008, 01:44 AM
They can be had for around $200 from Wenig http://www.wenig.com/welcome.html

azsixshooter
November 27, 2008, 02:32 AM
Is that legal for NRA highpower match? As long as it's not glass-bedded it's legal, right?

Logs
November 27, 2008, 07:04 AM
Well I would get more ammo from the CMP, since prices are going crazy.

Also I have a combo tool, but it is a pain to use for the gas plug. Instead I went to Harbor Freight and picked up one of their super large flat screw drivers with an Orange handle for $0.99 works PERFECT for the gas plug.

Also you might look at getting some new springs. I bought a new one for the op rod and it made my action much nicer. Also you might want to pick up a clip latch spring. One of my Garands would empty the mag on me after about 3-4 shots, changed the spring and now it works great. Also go to NAPA and pick up some grease Lubriplate, works the best on moving parts IMO. As for the sling I have both cloth and leather, but I prefer the cloth on and it was $5.

I don't have a shooting jacket, but I did pick up a mat and some padded gloves.

Finally plan a trip the Perry for the Garand match in AUG, may see you there.


http://www.m1garandrifle.com/Garandparts.htm

http://www.m1garandrifle.com/Garandparts.htm

http://www.dougsstockpile.com/index.html

azsixshooter
November 27, 2008, 07:18 AM
Thanks Logs, I appreciate the good tips!

support_six
November 27, 2008, 11:13 AM
After a can of ammo, that was the second thing I bought.

Good job! I'm "breaking in" a new pair of bifocals! My only suggestion is to buy more ammo. I buy a case about once a quarter. I don't shoot that much up so I'm stockpiling some so that when I'm ready to give my M1s to my children and grandchildren, they won't have to hang them on the wall to collect dust.

Citizen Carrier
November 27, 2008, 11:23 AM
I recommend one of the "tobacco can" AK cleaning kits you can find at gunshows. It has a rope pull-through, nylon brush, and wire brush you can use to clean the barrel from the breech to the muzzle.

I use one on all my .30 caliber rifles and I don't have to worry about muzzle wear.

Swampy1
November 28, 2008, 08:59 AM
azsixshooter asks:
Is that legal for NRA highpower match? As long as it's not glass-bedded it's legal, right?

Your question is based on a false premise... that glass bedding is illegal in NRA Service Rifle. It's not.

A glass bedded stock is quite legal in both NRA Service Rifle and in CMP-EIC.... and pretty well mandated if you plan to be competitive at all.

A laminated stock is for sure also legal in NRA Service Rifle. I am not certain if it is legal in CMP-EIC or not.... but for certain it is NOT legal in CMP-JCG events.

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever

azsixshooter
November 28, 2008, 09:09 AM
Your question is based on a false premise... that glass bedding is illegal in NRA Service Rifle. It's not.

I was thinking of the John C. Garand "as-issued" matches. Thanks for clarifying that and making me look it up. I found this:

"Shooters may use any “as-issued” U. S. service rifle including the M1 Garand, M1903 Springfield, M1917 Enfield, M1941 Johnson or .30 Cal. M1 Carbine. Rifles must have standard stocks and be equipped with military-type web or leather slings. Rebarreling with barrels of “as-issued” dimensions is permitted, but “NM” parts or glass bedding is not permitted."

Oldjarhead
November 28, 2008, 11:47 AM
Sounds like you have done your homework. I do not think I can add to your list. Is it a Springfield Armory? If so, once you get the M-1, you can go online with the serial number and see when it was manufactured.

I bought a M1 Garand a couple of years ago. SA make from February of 1944. It was sent to Camp Lejeune, NC. (USMC) I have no idea if it stayed there for training Marines, or went to the Pacific. It is still in great condition. I only had to put some Linseed oil on it, and the wood came back to life. I ordered the Greek ammo also with the enbloc clips in bandoleers also. You might check out the book, "The Complete book of the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine" by Bruce Canfield. He goes over in depth on what to look for to see which parts are original and what may have been changes over the production life of the rifle. I discovered by locking the action back and checking the stamping on the barrel, that my barrel was replaced at the SA factory in February of 1946. A lot of Garands I am sure had that done. Enjoy your rifle. I have mine.

Mike40-11
November 28, 2008, 12:14 PM
Bolt disassembly tool. After the extractor, ejector and/or springs shoot across the room or into the grass, you'll definitely want one.

Chipperman
November 28, 2008, 05:09 PM
Winter Trigger.

azsixshooter
November 28, 2008, 05:14 PM
Good call Chipperman! I'll give you points for that one!

azsixshooter
December 1, 2008, 06:11 AM
I'm going to add one to my own list for the benefit of anyone who comes across this thread in the future:

Schuster DCM Adjustable Gas Plug with Wrench, M1 Garand, Steel, Parkerized

(about $35 at midway)

I was thinking about hunting with the M1. I would at least like to keep that option open just in case I'm ever in a pinch and I remembered my buddy telling me that with an adjustable gas plug you can shoot a broader selection of '06 loads/bullets without the danger of damaging the op-rod.